[QUOTE=Dogchow33;36824733]Had a game with Axe who ksed using his finishing move nearly all the time, it was for the better though since we won and he carried. Still pisses me off though.[/QUOTE]
Did he do it while the enemy was at like 300 - 500 hp? In that case, maybe he just wanted them to die quick?
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;36824733]Had a game with Axe who ksed using his finishing move nearly all the time, it was for the better though since we won and he carried. Still pisses me off though.[/QUOTE]
Man, why does Earthshaker have the "Chaos Dunk" line? That finishing move is so very very "get dunked".
because earthshaker is charles barkley, duh
[QUOTE=Rarara;36825075]Did he do it while the enemy was at like 300 - 500 hp? In that case, maybe he just wanted them to die quick?[/QUOTE]
No, it was when someone would already have them nearly dead and he would just walk up and you know, ult them.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;36827726]No, it was when someone would already have them nearly dead and he would just walk up and you know, ult them.[/QUOTE]
so the amount of health that axe would probably only really need an autoattack or two at
honestly i can't get mad at axe using his ult, even if it's stealing a kill from me
he's just so [I]enthusiastic[/I]
Just played with a Phantom Assassin that didn't get a battlefury and a SUPPORT Holla Dolla Prophet. He used his ult ONCE. He had no damaging items, an urn, and a mek.
[QUOTE=Reno360;36831795]Just played with a Phantom Assassin that didn't get a battlefury and a SUPPORT Holla Dolla Prophet. He used his ult ONCE. He had no damaging items, an urn, and a mek.[/QUOTE]
That's bad ?
If you think that's bad, you're bad.
[QUOTE=Reno360;36831795]Just played with a Phantom Assassin that didn't get a battlefury and a SUPPORT Holla Dolla Prophet. He used his ult ONCE. He had no damaging items, an urn, and a mek.[/QUOTE]
you wont BELIEVE what happened to me last game. two of my teammates built their heroes COMPLETELY within reason!!!!
[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36832464]you wont BELIEVE what happened to me last game. two of my teammates built their heroes COMPLETELY within reason!!!![/QUOTE]
Funny.
But in no way can I see a support Nature being good. The battlefury was a minor thing that hindered her farm but a support Nature? No. He did terrible, didn't push because he couldn't, and was just a free meal for the enemy team.
Support profit is a risky build in Pubs. Its mainly done in Pro games because you are not the carry, just a pusher/ganker with a global TP :P
[QUOTE=Reno360;36834326]But in no way can I see a support Nature being good.[/QUOTE]
Haha kill yourself.
[QUOTE=Maruhai;36834528]Haha kill yourself.[/QUOTE]
Now that was just uncalled for.
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;36827959]so the amount of health that axe would probably only really need an autoattack or two at[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=Reno360;36834326]Funny.
But in no way can I see a support Nature being good. The battlefury was a minor thing that hindered her farm but a support Nature? No. He did terrible, didn't push because he couldn't, and was just a free meal for the enemy team.[/QUOTE]
lol, you have no idea what youre talking about. natures prophet is a great support because if he gets a mek and a force staff he can instantly teleport to where its needed. no battlefury on pa isnt even a "minor thing," getting battlefury on her is becoming an outdated build, half the games im in with a pa the pa skips bfury altogether and goes for a basher or a halberd after their bkb
[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36838756]natures prophet is a great support because if he gets a mek and a force staff he can instantly teleport to where its needed.[/QUOTE]
so is tinker a good support too
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;36838828]so is tinker a good support too[/QUOTE]
what? are you just trying to argue with me for the sake of starting a fight? i really do not know who you are but you seem to take every opportunity you can get to take a jab at me. tinker is an entirely different type of hero, he's item dependant, he's good at dealing burst damage, and he can take advantage of large amounts of farm with rearm. so what are you trying to say? the only thing these 2 heroes share in common is that they can teleport and theyre pushers
[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36838889]what? are you just trying to argue with me for the sake of starting a fight? i really do not know who you are but you seem to take every opportunity you can get to take a jab at me. [/QUOTE]why are you afraid of me
also
[quote] he's item dependant, he's good at dealing burst damage[/quote]
np is a great burster when he has a few items, his autoattack can be godly
[quote] he can take advantage of large amounts of farm with rearm[/quote]
so can prophet, i don't see what you're trying to say.
DOTA 2 Facepunch: a place where ad hominems flourish and conflicting opinions go to die
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
Also, just finished a 2-man queue with a team full of assholes. Lion who kept missing his Q, Nai'x who fed early game, and Bounty Hunter who repeatedly ks'd from Chaos Knight and insisted on jungling over nai'x. Everyone kept making dumb mistakes, like roshing when we should have been pushing or not buying wards, and then blaming everyone else for being retarded. We ended up winning, but only because our teamfight ramped up by midgame.
[QUOTE=Maruhai;36832135]That's bad ?
If you think that's bad, you're bad.[/QUOTE]
He's playing a support role, he's not using his ult, and at the same time he's also farming.
If he's playing support he shouldn't be farming.
If he's playing a carry he should have superior items.
Either way he should be actively using his abilities.
Also PA really should have battlefury for teamfights, pushing power, and farming. The only reason she might not need bf is if her team has a lot of cleave and/or pushing power as-is, or if she's playing a much more active role in ganking. If she's not going to buy a bf then she should at least have mkb for her DPS, and even then she should build a bf afterwards.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;36839026]why are you afraid of me
also
np is a great burster when he has a few items, his autoattack can be godly
so can prophet, i don't see what you're trying to say.[/QUOTE]
afraid of you? what the fuck im saying that every time you see one of my posts you try to be a confrontational dick. yes, np can benefit a lot from dps items, but he can also benefit from support items. his abilities benefit a support role as much as they benefit a carry role. tinker cannot fucking support.
[QUOTE=Reno360;36831795]Just played with a Phantom Assassin that didn't get a battlefury and a SUPPORT Holla Dolla Prophet. He used his ult ONCE. He had no damaging items, an urn, and a mek.[/QUOTE]
Would now be a bad time to mention that we already had a support and Nature didn't ward?
[QUOTE=The Mighty Boat;36840569]afraid of you? what the fuck im saying that every time you see one of my posts you try to be a confrontational dick. yes, np can benefit a lot from dps items, but he can also benefit from support items. his abilities benefit a support role as much as they benefit a carry role. tinker cannot fucking support.[/QUOTE]
not really you just say that every time I respond to you and refute your post, get over it crybaby. tinkers nukes are very good at supporting, so they can leave the carry to last hit.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
see: Lina and lion
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;36845252]not really you just say that every time I respond to you and refute your post, get over it crybaby. [B]tinkers nukes are very good at supporting[/B], so they can leave the carry to last hit.
[editline]19th July 2012[/editline]
see: [B]Lina and lion[/B][/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Santz;36845439]What?[/QUOTE]
Look at my edit.
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
Lina and lion are good supports, and they both have nukes to help the carry let the last hits on heroes.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;36846374]Look at my edit.
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
Lina and lion are good supports, and they both have nukes to help the carry let the last hits on heroes.[/QUOTE]
Um 2 of the best killsteal abilities in the game, who wouldn't pass up on that offer?
Lina and lion arguably should start the fight with their ult then use the stun so the carry can get the kill.
[QUOTE=dual elites;36830434]honestly i can't get mad at axe using his ult, even if it's stealing a kill from me
he's just so [I]enthusiastic[/I][/QUOTE]
He says it himself, to his victim, but also aplies to anyone else I guess...
You get nothing, good day sir!
That's pretty fun to hear actually.
I had a rather bad match as Lanaya yesterday, but fuck me if anyone blames me for everything...
I had the bad luck of going mid. Bad luck because I got a storm spirit and a drow ranger on mid...
All the harassing and pulling me near the tower makes everything hard, and later in the game, they just go "hurr lanaya noob is this your first game?"
Honestly, it was my first game as Lanaya, but it wasn't my fault that the other 3 heroes on Radiant were fed as fuck.
Storm Spirit always stayed at the places where I melded, and if he didn't stay there, CK did and waited for Storm to leave an afterimage there.
Sometimes my team would go "noob lanaya use your traps!" why would I even use my traps when no one was even near them?... Even better when I had the whole team ganking and stunning me and they expected me to use my traps while that happened...
Maybe I would have made some kills if someone else didn't feed them to hell and back...
Then I had an almost better game as Viper. Problem was Sand King leaving, and me getting an annoying clinkz and a PA to lane against me on top... If he didn't leave, we would have won easily.
[QUOTE=dass;36852768]He says it himself, to his victim, but also aplies to anyone else I guess...
You get nothing, good day sir!
That's pretty fun to hear actually.
I had a rather bad match as Lanaya yesterday, but fuck me if anyone blames me for everything...
I had the bad luck of going mid. Bad luck because I got a storm spirit and a drow ranger on mid...
All the harassing and pulling me near the tower makes everything hard, and later in the game, they just go "hurr lanaya noob is this your first game?"
Honestly, it was my first game as Lanaya, but it wasn't my fault that the other 3 heroes on Radiant were fed as fuck.
Storm Spirit always stayed at the places where I melded, and if he didn't stay there, CK did and waited for Storm to leave an afterimage there.
Sometimes my team would go "noob lanaya use your traps!" why would I even use my traps when no one was even near them?... Even better when I had the whole team ganking and stunning me and they expected me to use my traps while that happened...
Maybe I would have made some kills if someone else didn't feed them to hell and back...
Then I had an almost better game as Viper. Problem was Sand King leaving, and me getting an annoying clinkz and a PA to lane against me on top... If he didn't leave, we would have won easily.[/QUOTE]
Well.. Did you have an early point in meld? Thats a lifesaver against heroes that can't do AoE (on the other hand, Storm Spirit)
Also, they might have meant you should abuse the instant cast 2000 range traps to stop people from running, as one of her strengths is instant 50% traps.
Albeit, if they didn't call SS and you got murdered relentlessly by everyone from any lane its your team that just sucks.
(Hope you didn't underestimate Storm Spirit, he is a pretty good killer.)
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisguy123;36852636]Lina and lion arguably should start the fight with their ult then use the stun so the carry can get the kill.[/QUOTE]
I thought Lion and Lina used their ults as an opener to simply kill people. Sometimes in one hit.
Windrunner with 4 braces
he said that he need to survive in battles
he got black king bar...
[QUOTE=Rarara;36852999]Well.. Did you have an early point in meld? Thats a lifesaver against heroes that can't do AoE (on the other hand, Storm Spirit)
Also, they might have meant you should abuse the instant cast 2000 range traps to stop people from running, as one of her strengths is instant 50% traps.
Albeit, if they didn't call SS and you got murdered relentlessly by everyone from any lane its your team that just sucks.
(Hope you didn't underestimate Storm Spirit, he is a pretty good killer.)[/QUOTE]
I did underestimate Spirit a bit. Most Storm Spirits I see are rather crap, think I only saw 3 good ones till now, and not many people pick it anyway.
What do you mean with early point in meld? |: damn hate it when I don't understand the lingo used in something.
But even then, someone else would stay at the point were I was melded and either wait for me or wait for Storm to leave one of those explosive afterimages, and most of the times it was at low hp.
I should had used more traps, but even then, it wouldn't be of much use when there was a whole team ganking me or anyone else, and not even with a good initiation we were able to kill them. Hell, not even after CM landed a perfectly positioned ulti. They were still alive and able to kill us and ran away, and Storm Spirit constantly escaped at less than 100 hp. No one could catch him.
And yes, I think I was the only one actually calling SS whenever they disappeared from mid, so in short:
I had a storm spirit and drow range 2 on 1 at mid against me, sometimes only storm but most both of then, then a CK or a Skeleton King sometimes appeared, and as always, a riki. I was the target of just about anything, while everyone was running around on the Dire side of the map doing only god knows what.
I mean literally, I died, I looked at the map and they were complaining about me not using traps and they were spreaded around the map running around from side to side like ants and like the bots do before the creeps spawn.
The best part is that said CK and Skeleton King and Riki that started ganking me didn't appear next to me until Lv.9 or 10, so I'm pretty sure it isn't my fault they were fed as fuck. Even better when people call me noob when Riki blind strikes me out of nowhere and uses smoke, giving me no chance to do anything at all, yet people expect me to do something because JEEZ LANAYA STOMPS EVERYTHING, EVEN AFTER BEING SILENCED AND SLOWED AND WITH 70% MISS PROBABILITY.
Best part was Axe and PA whining about me. Axe calling me a noob while he was 0-4, ending 4-10, and PA ending at 7-10.
Axe's excuse: "my keys don't work :c"
Great job! All my fault I had a shitty lane with constant random attacks and no help at all while the rest of my team had shit easy lanes and STILL managed to feed them so they could then gank me. Just lovely.
[editline]20th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hobbax;36853702]Windrunner with 4 braces
he said that he need to survive in battles
he got black king bar...[/QUOTE]
Is it bad that I always use 2 bracers/wraith bands/null talismans like it advises?
Till now, on Viper for example, it gives me alot of help.
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