Everytime I lane with a person and they autoattack the lane, fucking up my (or their) last hits.
I wouldn't be mad if they didn't have many wins, but these people have 200+ wins....
I asked many times to stop, they go "ok" and continue doing it
[QUOTE=Banned?;37598410]It's Necro'lic.[/QUOTE]
Speak of the devil. We were playing in the FP tournament yesterday and Necro'lic changed his name to dass and started spamming the chat.
We remade it and kicked him.
OK, Frozen, another friend and I queue together and end up in a Captain's Mode game (I tick ALL THE GAMEMODES). Our captain is a random, makes the most retarded picks/bans on the planet.
We had first ban. We tell him, ban Lycan, Dark Seer and Anti-mage. He decides to ban Ursa, someone I forgot, and Zeus. What. Then comes first pick. He picks Weaver without consulting anybody. Enemy team picks Enigma and Rubick.
Team captain: "ok guys i pick this we win"
He picks Silencer. All right, a little strange but we can work with it. 3rd pick was Windrunner, so that's all good.
Lo and behold, enemy team's 3rd pick was Anti-Mage.
So, 4th ban, we tell him, "Lesh or Nature's." Instead, he bans Axe. WTF? For our 4th pick, we we're pretty much raging at him. "PICK MORPHLING OR TA OR SOMEONE USEFUL PLEASE". Suddenly, Huskar pick. What the shit. Enemy next pick is Nature's. :/
Ok, last pick for our team, we we're pretty much begging for some teamfight control/support, maybe Enigma, Sand King, Venomancer or Shadow Shaman.
He picks Treant. I get shafted to play Treant with Windrunner at suicide lane while our captain picks Silencer and rolls top lane with weaver. He dies twice to their Enigma, complains about lag and then ragequits. Weaver ragequits after 5 minute abandon mark.
We got rolled.
[URL="https://dotabuff.com/matches/39051975"]Match page for anyone interested in watching fail occur.[/URL]
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Wrong thread.
Yet another game foiled.
Apparently, its my fault that drow got fed (even thought we went 1-1 during the laning phase)
To make a short description of the game... It was 1on5 all the time.
Omni used his ulti 3 times during an hour, NP was hidden in the jungle 24/7 and somehow had shit farm, SK calls me a retarded noob despite the fact that I actually have more kills than him as Kotl and the skill he uses the most is reincarnate (no shit).
Riki was the only one that was cool, except he got countered easily.
Everyone else was a douchebag.
Can someone explain to me how Pudge is a "Noob champ"?
Some smartass Lycan and Chaos Knight insisted that we were all noobs because we had a team consisting of Pudge, Ursa, Ogre Magi, Venomancer (Me) and Drow Ranger.
They also insisted that Venomancer should only be played as a hard carry, and I was an idiot for not doing so. They also insisted that Lycan, Chaos Knight and Naga siren were not "Noob champs" whatsoever.
I fucking hate people sometimes.
Pudge isn't a noob hero, he's just frequently played by noobs. Most competitive players don't play him simply because he's a very risky pick.
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;37610311]Can someone explain to me how Pudge is a "Noob champ"?
Some smartass Lycan and Chaos Knight insisted that we were all noobs because we had a team consisting of Pudge, Ursa, Ogre Magi, Venomancer (Me) and Drow Ranger.
They also insisted that Venomancer should only be played as a hard carry, and I was an idiot for not doing so. They also insisted that Lycan, Chaos Knight and Naga siren were not "Noob champs" whatsoever.
I fucking hate people sometimes.[/QUOTE]
i wouldnt call naga siren a noob champ.
I've played against good nagas and bad nagas.
Bad nagas don't get rid of their ultimate when needed, our whole team was trapped in nagas ultimate, their team had a sand king and tide. Sandking ulted, she didn't stop. Tide thought it was over so he ulted. They all died, and naga said "sandking feed". They also barely ever use the illusions right.
Good nagas tend to micro their illusions to trick people into wasting spells and mana, or luring them elsewhere. They stop their ultimate when needed.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;37610375]Pudge isn't a noob hero, he's just frequently played by noobs. Most competitive players don't play him simply because he's a very risky pick.[/QUOTE]
Pro players don't pick him because they're scared that their teammates will make fun of them for missing hooks. Dendi is confident enough that he wont miss hooks.
Dendi is better at hooking than Ravaging
Riki.
He goes to lane with me, says "dont stop" "dont stop!!" I have no idea why.
He leaves when we get to tower.
3 minutes later he rejoins, promptly right clicks huskar, and I think he went afk again.
[QUOTE=Rarara;37611660]Riki.
He goes to lane with me, says "dont stop" "dont stop!!" I have no idea why.
He leaves when we get to tower.
3 minutes later he rejoins, promptly right clicks huskar, and I think he went afk again.[/QUOTE]
I guess he had to go clean himself up.
[QUOTE=wug;37599666]Playing as TA, and I get shackled, infront of me sven is getting raped and instadies, i'm next and the nature's prophet behind me, instead of putting a sprout on the small path (path from radiant secret shop that goes into the space between mid t1 and t2 tower) he decides to attack creeps, getting some cs, turns around and uses his ult and then teleports to the secret shop to buy mystic staff and then he dies.[/QUOTE]
today a furion on the other team used sprout and ended up traping one of his allies (bh)
that gave me enough time to use surge and get away
[editline]10th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Suttles;37602223]Everytime I lane with a person and they autoattack the lane, fucking up my (or their) last hits.
I wouldn't be mad if they didn't have many wins, but these people have 200+ wins....
I asked many times to stop, they go "ok" and continue doing it[/QUOTE]
I saw an antimage rushing vlads and then going phaseboots, i checked his items when the match ended, he got skullbasher and midas
the guy had around 200 wins, and called his team "nubs"
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;37610311]Can someone explain to me how Pudge is a "Noob champ"?
Some smartass Lycan and Chaos Knight insisted that we were all noobs because we had a team consisting of Pudge, Ursa, Ogre Magi, Venomancer (Me) and Drow Ranger.
They also insisted that Venomancer should only be played as a hard carry, and I was an idiot for not doing so. They also insisted that Lycan, Chaos Knight and Naga siren were not "Noob champs" whatsoever.
I fucking hate people sometimes.[/QUOTE]
IF I were to say that Pudge is a "noob champ", it would be maybe because how he can hook people from 1500 units away or so and trap them with devour while getting rotted and getting +strength for every kill near him. Which isn't really that "easy" as it sounds, he just gets really tanky and people don't ward his ass.
Ursa is the usual pubstomp hero which mauls everyone if no one stops him
Ogre Magi is luck based, so with a handful of luck, you're draining a shitload of health from someone
I have no idea about drow or venomancer, although last 2 games, drow always became a HUGE menace.
As for Lycan CK and siren, they are easy provided you get your farm. They don't really require a huge tactic.
And how the hell do you play Venomancer as hard carry?
[editline]10th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Suttles;37610461]i wouldnt call naga siren a noob champ.
I've played against good nagas and bad nagas.
Bad nagas don't get rid of their ultimate when needed, our whole team was trapped in nagas ultimate, their team had a sand king and tide. Sandking ulted, she didn't stop. Tide thought it was over so he ulted. They all died, and naga said "sandking feed". They also barely ever use the illusions right.
Good nagas tend to micro their illusions to trick people into wasting spells and mana, or luring them elsewhere. They stop their ultimate when needed.[/QUOTE]
I love it when people accuse others of feeding.
Its just retarded as fuck most of the times. Your team gets wiped out, you are only a soft support who gets easily mauled while trying to do his job, "hurr X fed"
Bonus points if you ready everything and they run and leave you behind when the other team is about to attack you.
[editline]10th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=titopei;37610579]Pro players don't pick him because they're scared that their teammates will make fun of them for missing hooks. Dendi is confident enough that he wont miss hooks.[/QUOTE]
Sad that we didn't see Pudge in TI2.
[QUOTE=dass;37614051]IF I were to say that Pudge is a "noob champ", it would be maybe because how he can hook people from 1500 units away or so and trap them with devour while getting rotted and getting +strength for every kill near him. Which isn't really that "easy" as it sounds, he just gets really tanky and people don't ward his ass.
Ursa is the usual pubstomp hero which mauls everyone if no one stops him
Ogre Magi is luck based, so with a handful of luck, you're draining a shitload of health from someone
I have no idea about drow or venomancer, although last 2 games, drow always became a HUGE menace.
As for Lycan CK and siren, they are easy provided you get your farm. They don't really require a huge tactic.
And how the hell do you play Venomancer as hard carry?
[editline]10th September 2012[/editline]
I love it when people accuse others of feeding.
Its just retarded as fuck most of the times. Your team gets wiped out, you are only a soft support who gets easily mauled while trying to do his job, "hurr X fed"
Bonus points if you ready everything and they run and leave you behind when the other team is about to attack you.
[editline]10th September 2012[/editline]
Sad that we didn't see Pudge in TI2.[/QUOTE]
Venomancer is an agility hero.
With enough gold advantage he can carry.
Agility gives him +damage, +speed and +armor, he can get items such as Butterfly.
Can he even be good enough for that?
[QUOTE=dass;37614154]Can he even be good enough for that?[/QUOTE]
Venomancer is an extremely good carry if he has 300% more gold than the enemy, then again, who isn't?
ANY agility hero can carry actually, just build him as a carry.
venomancer, much like vengeful spirit, can [I]technically[/I] be a carry but if you build them like one you're a fucking moron and should probably be shot
I think I'd rather scepter + blink dagger venomancer and blast everyone with poison.
It just chews away through their hp and together with venomous gale and plague wards and whatnot, it will at least make them retreat.
[QUOTE=dual elites;37614374]venomancer, much like vengeful spirit, can [I]technically[/I] be a carry but if you build them like one you're a fucking moron and should probably be shot[/QUOTE]
vengeful spirit, unlike venomancer, actually has a steroid so please don't throw them into the same basket
the presence of a steroid doesn't automatically make a hero into a carry, venge is one of the best supports in the game if not [I]the[/I] best and you are seriously wasting her potential by building carry junk on her.
i mean Ogre Magi also has a steroid, does that make him a carry??
Ogre Magi = Ultimate carry supporter.
[QUOTE=Rarara;37614968]Ogre Magi = Ultimate carry supporter.[/QUOTE]
Pure skill required.
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;37616764]Pure skill required.[/QUOTE]
You also need to be able to type fast, or alternatively, bind some keys to certain sentences, as to tell everyone how skilled you are after a 8x multicast.
Zeus started to feed and was 0-11 at 13 mins, so he sat in base when he hit lvl 6 and proceeded to spam R S R S R S R S and as the sound could be heard globally it was terrible.
[QUOTE=dass;37614051]Sad that we didn't see Pudge in TI2.[/QUOTE]
Dendi played him multiple times and someone on aL played him once
[QUOTE=Rarara;37614968]Ogre Magi = Ultimate carry supporter.[/QUOTE]
I've legitimately been ganked by an Ogre Magi before as a fed Anti-Mage. That fucker got so lucky on those multi-casts, he essentially was carrying their team.
A lucky Ogre Magi is one of the scariest things in the game besides a Night Stalker with haste. That shit gives me the willies.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;37619823]I've legitimately been ganked by an Ogre Magi before as a fed Anti-Mage. That fucker got so lucky on those multi-casts, he essentially was carrying their team.
A lucky Ogre Magi is one of the scariest things in the game besides a Night Stalker with haste. That shit gives me the willies.[/QUOTE]
pudge with haste is scary shit too
[QUOTE=dual elites;37614792]the presence of a steroid doesn't automatically make a hero into a carry, venge is one of the best supports in the game if not [I]the[/I] best and you are seriously wasting her potential by building carry junk on her.
i mean Ogre Magi also has a steroid, does that make him a carry??[/QUOTE]
remind me where i said steroid = carry
i just remember saying don't put people with steroids in the same basket as people without steroids
also venge is a better roamer than lane support, because she is a better pivot than support/hard support.
[editline]11th September 2012[/editline]
to be honest most gankers with haste are scary
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;37618970]Dendi played him multiple times and someone on aL played him once[/QUOTE]
On TI2?
I don't remember any Pudge at all.
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