3-12 Magnus who had 3 points in cleave at level 5 and built a MoM.
I... I fucking hate new heroes getting released.
[QUOTE=Sarracenia;37918900]3-12 Magnus who had 3 points in cleave at level 5 and built a MoM.
I... I fucking hate new heroes getting released.[/QUOTE]
oh shit new heroes
[QUOTE=Sarracenia;37918900]3-12 Magnus who had 3 points in cleave at level 5 and built a MoM.
I... I fucking hate new heroes getting released.[/QUOTE]
Saw a magnus with
orb of venom
manta style
ethereal blade
tranq boots
I had no idea what in the fuck he was trying out, but it didn't work
Magnus?
[QUOTE=Snow Wolf677;37919883]Magnus?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Magnus"]Magnus, the Magnoceros[/URL]
snip, i just launched Dota and played two rounds with him. He's p cool.
I just got butt fucked in bottom lane by a pudge and drow, all because our riki (who was russian. NOT BIG SURPRISE.) stood there the entire game never attacking, never harrassing, never doing anything except leeching.
Nobody would gank bot when I asked, and I constantly got hooked and raped by pudge. Then Riki started ranting how I should leave and that I was bad, he said Riki wasn't an early game hero to which I replied that I didn't know "Not an early game hero" translates to "Never do anything and leech exp." Our Axe agreed with me, and then riki just started spam asking us what our Garena level was.
It was just awful.
magnus seems cool
Sadly I suck at carrying, only carry I do decent at is slardar.
Another story for the books.
Alch who whines all match that everyone is a carry and no supports
0-19
Yay another one...
Tiny building dagon 5 and basicaly nothing else...
So I picked morphling because someone instant locked magnus last night.
I called mid, magnus said no and went mid with me for about 3 minutes but he couldnt last hit and the OD was harrassing him and not me, he left mid.
He said Morphing sucks now because of the nerfs and we will lose because of me.
He goes all around the map, dying all the time, just all around being bad, rage quits 6 minutes in.
I carried a 4v5 as morphling with the help of an amazing enchantress and nyx, nyx was like 2 shotting OD by the end because of the mana burn, the DK was pretty good.
Then we won 4v5 in like a 50 minute extremely close match, our shit was almost dead.
If we still had the magnus he would of lost us the game.
Also Morph is still just as good as ever, just cant get an instant free kill by rushing eth blade because no casting shit while waving, but he still has all his spells and morph, hes still amazing.
Yea...
Magnus is a good mid, but if you can't play him stop.
[QUOTE=Suttles;37924127]Yea...
Magnus is a good mid, but if you can't play him stop.[/QUOTE]
He is but our lanes had no place for me as morph so everyone but magnus wanted me mid, magnus would have been better in a lane that match.
I decide to random, and get alchemist. No one on my team had picked yet, and I asked if someone could babysit me in lane.
We get a Chen, a Bounty Hunter, a Pudge and a Lina.
Chen goes jungle, and bounty IN-FUCKIGN-SIST he needs to solo safe lane. Meanwhile, the Enemy team has Naix, Tide, Meepo, Slardar, and Dark Seer. Lina comes bot with me, steals my last hits, pushes lane way up, then gets murdered by Tide and Meepo for first blood. Then TPs back and keeps attacking the lane. Pudge says he is coming bottom to gank, and Lina LEAVES THE LANE TO GO MID saying she needs the farm. Despite this, Pudge manages to get a kill and I get the other one.
Fast forward a bit, I managed to get a 20 minute Bfury despite practically soloing my lane against a Tide and Meepo. I go to jungle with it because trying to farm on lane is suicide since lina pushes them 24/7 with her spells. Chen complains that I need to "get out of his jungle" and that HE needs the farm. Later on at the end of the match, he said alchemist can't farm jungle (In case you don't know, the quickest, and safest way to jungle with alchemist is to get a radiance or Bfury and use acid spray to kill/pull camps you aren't currently attacking to chain off Goblins Greed.) and that he needed farm for his Aghs. Bounty never helped in team fights or went ganking despite that solo safe lane XP he insisted he needed. Pudge's hooks varied wildly from decent to throwing it in the complete opposite direction. Both Lina and Pudge trash talked all game. Lifestealer woudl instantly murder me in every team fight because he was ultra fed and ultra farmed.
[B]TL:DR- Fuck everything.[/B]
I was luna, kindly asked CM and sven to let me go to the safe lane (since we already had someone going mid)
"Nope sven is a carry too!"
"NO sven carries harder after the buffs!"
He had treads and a bracer by min 20, and ended the game with bkb and cryst, I told him that the next time he should leave the safe lane to someone who can carry harder (or farmer better) , he then blamed it to pudge being too feed (he feed off from his cm buddy who was ruining around careless and then bitching about it) and "give me a heart and daedalusa nd i can carry harder than luna!" yeah, if the game extends for another hour you will be able to get reaver
also they keep bitching at our tidehunter, he wasn't doing too well, but it's a bit infuriating seeing how the guy who kept feeding pudge bitching about the others
An axe that bought 3 stone shield and put on enemy lane dieing every second then he said "help me champions" we lost that game :(
Omniknight runs around all of our lanes and literally takes all of our farm on purpose. He has BoT, Skadi, SnY, Euls, Drums, and a Heart. Then he has to nerve to ask "where's everyone's farm".
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;37936328]Omniknight runs around all of our lanes and literally takes all of our farm on purpose. He has BoT, Skadi, SnY, Euls, Drums, and a Heart. Then he has to nerve to ask "where's everyone's farm".[/QUOTE]
Well it's good that SOMEONE takes all the last hits at least.
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;37936328]Omniknight runs around all of our lanes and literally takes all of our farm on purpose. He has BoT, Skadi, SnY, Euls, Drums, and a Heart. Then he has to nerve to ask "where's everyone's farm".[/QUOTE]
Omni "can" carry if he buys the right items, but he shouldn't.
[QUOTE=Rarara;37938293]Omni "can" carry if he buys the right items, but he shouldn't.[/QUOTE]
any character can carry, doesnt mean they all should.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;37938508]any character can carry, doesnt mean they all should.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, Omniknight has an AOE nuke, the ability to stop people from running away, a 12 second BKB with 2 second downtime, and an ultimate that instantly saves him (most of the time), unlike for example Witch Doctor, Crystal Maiden or Sand King.
[QUOTE=Rarara;37938606]The thing is, Omniknight has an AOE nuke, the ability to stop people from running away, a 12 second BKB with 2 second downtime, and an ultimate that instantly saves him (most of the time), unlike for example Witch Doctor, Crystal Maiden or Sand King.[/QUOTE]
Yea, omniknight is a devasting carry. My friend went omniknight carry mid, we won because of his farm.
Played with a troll juggernaut he trolled very quickly and good i give to him 8.5/10 here is chat text
Juggernaut : im pro with this hero will get a lot of kills
*10 minutes later*
Juggernaut : noob team help me to farm dude
Juggernaut : worst team ever
Invoker : you are in well doing nothing how we can help you farm?
Juggernaut : well destroy towers
Invoker : dude wtf
Juggernaut : yes you didn't even destroy all towers do it
Invoker : why you have 2 boots¿?
Juggernaut : to stack movement
Invoker : it doesnt stack read
Juggernaut : well im leavin
Juggernaut : invoker is noob and doesnt know you can move more faster with 2 boots
Juggernaut leaves
Dumb broodmother who specifically asked that I leave lane and let her farm and she'll be able to take the top tower, instead feeds 5 kills and has maxed spiderlings and incapacitating bite with only 1 level of web, and incapacitating bite over spiderlings. They only used spiderlings to steal kills.
Oh god.
Thank god I was only spectating. Was watching a friend's game.
He picks Alch just to man mode this shit. Next guy picks Chaos Knight. Ok 2 carries we're good now.
They have a decent setup. Alch, WD, Huskar, CK, and VS. Venge blows a gasket and is confused about who is going mid. CK says he will do it and takes it from Huskar. Huskar didn't even care so he went top.
This CK hurt my soul to watch. He ignored his ult, good. He went for damn crits over reality rift, BAD. He then repeatedly used his stun on fucking creeps. Chaos Knight, who couldn't have enough mana if he had a Clarity IV in his arm, was burning 140 mana... on creeps. He even did it in a teamfight. Shit is goin down, he locks onto a SINGLE damn creep, 50 feet from the fight, stuns it, and then goes back to the fight.
Moving onto VS.
Buddy was in the hard lane against a Spirit Breaker and a Puck with VS to supposedly back him up.
Apparently, the Puck had played too much League as he spent the entire lane hiding in the damn trees. VS was apparently so terrified by this he had to sit back a mile from the creeps getting no EXP or dancing around in their jungle ALSO getting no EXP. This also allowed Spirit Breaker to get farm unhindered and Puck to take potshots on Alch.
He then gets tired of getting no farm bottom so he goes mid to leach off of Chaos were he feeds a good 2 or 3 times. He then has the audacity to say that he could win this if he wasn't so underleveled. He promptly says this is over, and well-sits for the entire rest of the match.
Why, just [B]why[/B] god?
That's like when I watch my IRL friend play.
10 people running around like headless chickens.
[QUOTE=Reno360;37944226]Oh god.
Thank god I was only spectating. Was watching a friend's game.
He picks Alch just to man mode this shit. Next guy picks Chaos Knight. Ok 2 carries we're good now.
They have a decent setup. Alch, WD, Huskar, CK, and VS. Venge blows a gasket and is confused about who is going mid. CK says he will do it and takes it from Huskar. Huskar didn't even care so he went top.
This CK hurt my soul to watch. He ignored his ult, good. He went for damn crits over reality rift, BAD. He then repeatedly used his stun on fucking creeps. Chaos Knight, who couldn't have enough mana if he had a Clarity IV in his arm, was burning 140 mana... on creeps. He even did it in a teamfight. Shit is goin down, he locks onto a SINGLE damn creep, 50 feet from the fight, stuns it, and then goes back to the fight.
Moving onto VS.
Buddy was in the hard lane against a Spirit Breaker and a Puck with VS to supposedly back him up.
Apparently, the Puck had played too much League as he spent the entire lane hiding in the damn trees. VS was apparently so terrified by this he had to sit back a mile from the creeps getting no EXP or dancing around in their jungle ALSO getting no EXP. This also allowed Spirit Breaker to get farm unhindered and Puck to take potshots on Alch.
He then gets tired of getting no farm bottom so he goes mid to leach off of Chaos were he feeds a good 2 or 3 times. He then has the audacity to say that he could win this if he wasn't so underleveled. He promptly says this is over, and well-sits for the entire rest of the match.
Why, just [B]why[/B] god?[/QUOTE]
So, to skill up Chaos Knight the right way you max out Stun and Reality Shift first? Then crit and Ult?
Oh well, I wasn't too far off when playing the hero last time.
I was Silencer, Axe would jungle, I'd solo top.
After a bit, growing used to the sound of gold, Riki comes along.
That is when I realize the SK is soloing bot alone, while Riki just walked top.
I tell him to leave, he says nothing.
He stays there, steals ALL my last hits I could possibly have, killsteals all ganks I see him on, dies too often, and doesn't help me kill people.
And then, at the end of the game, he has LESS GOLD THAN ME, AND I HADN'T FARMED AT ALL THAT GAME, I HAD ONE KILL, AND BARELY ANY ASSISTS.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;37945823]So, to skill up Chaos Knight the right way you max out Stun and Reality Shift first? Then crit and Ult?
Oh well, I wasn't too far off when playing the hero last time.[/QUOTE]
A general tip.
Any ability that scales with a stat (Crit, Glaives of Wisdom, Arcane Orb, etc) is prefferably maxed later on, when you have enough stat that it scales off to make it timeworthy.
Prefferably, because in some scenarios other abilities won't matter much, but usually it's "Skeleton King Syndrome".
Ostarion is best example for this kind of skill choices.
His stun is always useful and leveling it makes it formidable nuke.
Aura and Crit are both powerful, but early on first provides no realistic heal, as a creep hit will take away enough hp to make it even, and second one has 15% chance to proc and you are nowhere near armlet/hyperstone at that point. Even worse, aura will push wave as it applies to melee creeps.
Thus you level Hellfire blast and stats until level 6 or so, as they give you the most benefits at that point of the game.
[QUOTE=Tokagero;37946039]A general tip.
Any ability that scales with a stat (Crit, Glaives of Wisdom, Arcane Orb, etc) is prefferably maxed later on, when you have enough stat that it scales off to make it timeworthy.
Prefferably, because in some scenarios other abilities won't matter much, but usually it's "Skeleton King Syndrome".
Ostarion is best example for this kind of skill choices.
His stun is always useful and leveling it makes it formidable nuke.
Aura and Crit are both powerful, but early on first provides no realistic heal, as a creep hit will take away enough hp to make it even, and second one has 15% chance to proc and you are nowhere near armlet/hyperstone at that point. Even worse, aura will push wave as it applies to melee creeps.
Thus you level Hellfire blast and stats until level 6 or so, as they give you the most benefits at that point of the game.[/QUOTE]
PERCENTAGE based stats gains are what defines late-game power
all the rest is up to choice
[QUOTE=MendozaMan;37946337]PERCENTAGE based stats gains are what defines late-game power
all the rest is up to choice[/QUOTE]
I.e. scaling, not static. And that's exactly what I said, your point ?
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