[QUOTE=Rarara;38850906]How is bfury not good on Anti Mage?
It lets you farm a lot faster, a Manta alone wont cut it, with a bfury you can get a Manta a couple of minutes later as well as some other items down the road.
If you get Manta first you are stuck with Manta.
What Anti Mages should stop getting is Vanguard.[/QUOTE]
You know an AntiMage never played with that hero when they go for the recommended build, Vlads and Vanguard
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;38852140]Im not trying to sound like I hate other races but...
What the fuck is with all the Chinese, Russian, and South American doing on fucking US-EAST.
These people have insane pings and dont speak a word of English, is their a reason? Is it faster to connect to US-EAST in some places, or are people just not switching regions?
Every time someone is lagging, and doesnt speak English, I just see their ping at 300 constantly, and it blows my mind on why they dont switch.
I dont get why you wouldnt play in your region for faster connections.[/QUOTE]
I played on South America and i get the same ping as US East and im used to it
[QUOTE=NoName-;38852209]You know an AntiMage never played with that hero when they go for the recommended build, Vlads and Vanguard
I played on South America and i get the same ping as US East and im used to it[/QUOTE]
I usually go Vanguard - Manta - Battlefury, mostly because when I play AM there's another hard carry farming his arse off and my team actually needs support against the magic wielding scum.
Is that a bad thing?
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;38852603]I usually go Vanguard - Manta - Battlefury, mostly because when I play AM there's another hard carry farming his arse off and my team actually needs support against the magic wielding scum.
Is that a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
Why the fuck would you get a farming item last?
[QUOTE=Da_Maniac_;38852683]Why the fuck would you get a farming item last?[/QUOTE]
I don't use it for farming because usually when I play AM I'm not a dedicated farmer? I use it because, hey, it's actually a decent weapon for teamfights and pushing?
You should be the dedicated farmer as AM
And PMS is better than Vanguard because you should get the regen from BFury and if you still need HP then get a Heart later
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;38852776]I don't use it for farming because usually when I play AM I'm not a dedicated farmer? I use it because, hey, it's actually a decent weapon for teamfights and pushing?[/QUOTE]
If you get Bfury for the damage and not for the farming abilities you are better off just getting a Desolator or something..
Your item order is kind of weird.
STORY TIME.
I play Random Draft, pick BH, a hero I truly love.
My team was 4 deadweights.
Earthshaker was on my lane, he didn't get w and e before level 4, not that bad, but he was generally bad, barely supported, and failed a lot.
Slark and Tiny went bot, Venomancer mid.
Saving the best for last I'll explain Venomancer, he basically stayed mid all game and did nothing of value, he never spoke, he was vastly underleveled, he had no kills, no deaths, and almost no assists when I had 13 kills.
I went roaming and killed Zeus a couple of times, then Slark and Tiny suddenly bursted out "WHERE SS TOP WHERE SS TOP WHERE SS TOP RETARD FUCKING SUCK WHERE SS TOP" (Earthshaker hadn't called missing but this was at the 15 min mark when staying in the same lane usually cease to exist.
Slark and his buttbuddy Tiny would insult me no matter what whatever happened and no matter what I was doing.
I defended top, and denied it, meanwhile Slark jumped into a 1v3 and got himself killed, when I was halfway down to mid tower to defend that he pingspammed me and said "USELESS SHIT" over and over.
Long after I got an Assault Cuircass (After Desolator ofc.) he started saying in all chat and team chat and every chat "LOL LOOK AT BH ITEMS ASSAULT CUIRCASS YOU NEED FUCKING DAMAGE RETARD NOOB ARMOR WONT HELP YOU FUCKING RETARD"
EVERY time I died to the fed and farmed up void after that he would say "ARMOR DONT HELP YOU NOW :))))))" (Always :))))))
He also said my mother was a whore, he'd piss on my mothers grave, and he wanted to fuck my mothers brain.
He also said "WTF RETARD BH DON'T TRACK AT START OF FIGHT FUCKING USELESS SHIT"
The worst part, we could have fucking won, I was 13 2 at one point, we could've pushed in, but this Tiny, Slark and Venomancer insisted on derping around doing jack shit.
Several minutes later when Void was farmed up and literally all 5 of our enemies carried sentries and dust (And a gem on one) my score was 13 9 and Slark was 12 10 even after all that bonus time he got.
Tiny kept contradicting Slark by saying "USE TRACK MORE BH" but they both agreed I was surely the one and only reason we were losing and not the feeding Earthshaker, the horrible Tiny, the basically afk Venomancer or the incredibly rude, offensive and overall bad Slark.
I did literally all a Bounty Hunter can be expected to do. I tracked 90% of all kills before the 20 min mark and fed our team A TON of bonus gold.
Why do I always get those teams.
Oh also, at one point I escaped Void with 49 HP when he time bubbled Slark, he raged furiously, pingspamming me saying "USELESS SHIT WHY YOU NO HELP FUCKING RETARD" I then walk back home thinking I was safe when a random sentry ward detects me and void kills me. Slark promptly says "ARMOR NO HELP YOU NOW BH :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))"
He also said "RUN BH RETARD" whenever I was at 400 hp near enemies.
And "USELESS SHIT RETARD BH" when I ran in, killed 3 people to save him, he dives right back in and dies, and gets me killed too.
ALSO, he swapped between Gondar and BH which leads me to believe he has been bad at dota for 7 years.
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;38829405]I always see everyone say "so and so is a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE jungler and you should NEVER jungle with them."
So who the heck is supposed to be a good jungler, then?[/QUOTE]
There are several heroes that can jungle but lack the DPS to do it efficiently, and therefor are better off in lane unless your team's picks don't allow for it.
Efficient LVL1 Junglers: Enigma, Prophet, Lycan, Axe, Chen, Enchantress, Doom*, Lifestealer
Possible-but-slower LVL1 Junglers: Bloodseeker, Lone Druid, Ursa, Tinker, Skeleton King, Windrunner
(*Assuming you are not ridiculously unlucky with creep spawns and never find a Dark Troll Warlord, Forest Troll High Priest, Satyr Hellcaller, or Ogre Magi)
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38853087]There are several heroes that can jungle but lack the DPS to do it efficiently, and therefor are better off in lane unless your team's picks don't allow for it.
Efficient LVL1 Junglers: Enigma, Prophet, Lycan, Axe, Chen, Enchantress, Doom*, Lifestealer
Possible-but-slower LVL1 Junglers: Bloodseeker, Lone Druid, Ursa, Tinker, Skeleton King, Windrunner
(*Assuming you are not ridiculously unlucky with creep spawns and never find a Dark Troll Warlord, Forest Troll High Priest, Satyr Hellcaller, or Ogre Magi)[/QUOTE]
I'd say put Lifestealer (And Lycan until he gets buffed) in slow and Tinker, Windrunner, Storm Spirit and Bloodseeker in shouldn't be jungling but still can.
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38853087]There are several heroes that can jungle but lack the DPS to do it efficiently, and therefor are better off in lane unless your team's picks don't allow for it.
Efficient LVL1 Junglers: Enigma, Prophet, Lycan, Axe, Chen, Enchantress, Doom*, Lifestealer
Possible-but-slower LVL1 Junglers: Bloodseeker, Lone Druid, Ursa, Tinker, Skeleton King, Windrunner
(*Assuming you are not ridiculously unlucky with creep spawns and never find a Dark Troll Warlord, Forest Troll High Priest, Satyr Hellcaller, or Ogre Magi)[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if you can call Lycan an efficient lvl 1 jungler. His wolves aren't that effective until you hit about lvl 2 on them.
Then again, I haven't played Lycan that much yet.
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38853087]There are several heroes that can jungle but lack the DPS to do it efficiently, and therefor are better off in lane unless your team's picks don't allow for it.
Efficient LVL1 Junglers: Enigma, Prophet, Lycan, Axe, Chen, Enchantress, Doom*, Lifestealer
Possible-but-slower LVL1 Junglers: Bloodseeker, Lone Druid, Ursa, Tinker, Skeleton King, Windrunner
(*Assuming you are not ridiculously unlucky with creep spawns and never find a Dark Troll Warlord, Forest Troll High Priest, Satyr Hellcaller, or Ogre Magi)[/QUOTE]
how can WR jungle, what
[QUOTE=Suttles;38853389]how can WR jungle, what[/QUOTE]
Like Storm Spirit does it except far less effective.
[QUOTE=Rarara;38853532]Like Storm Spirit does it except far less effective.[/QUOTE]
so does she like powershot or some shit?
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38853087]There are several heroes that can jungle but lack the DPS to do it efficiently, and therefor are better off in lane unless your team's picks don't allow for it.
Efficient LVL1 Junglers: Enigma, Prophet, Lycan, Axe, Chen, Enchantress, Doom*, Lifestealer
Possible-but-slower LVL1 Junglers: Bloodseeker, Lone Druid, Ursa, Tinker, Skeleton King, Windrunner
(*Assuming you are not ridiculously unlucky with creep spawns and never find a Dark Troll Warlord, Forest Troll High Priest, Satyr Hellcaller, or Ogre Magi)[/QUOTE]
Lycan is a horrible jungler ever since his nerf though. He's better off farming at mid and the small creep camp by the mid tower. For Axe you're going to have to by a ring of protection and nothing else but tangos. I wouldn't call Bloodseeker slow because he'll never have to run back to base for healing and can stay in jungle for a long time.
All I ever find is Mud Golems an Ursa's though when I jungle.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;38853665]Lycan is a horrible jungler ever since his nerf though. He's better off farming at mid and the small creep camp by the mid tower. For Axe you're going to have to by a ring of protection and nothing else but tangos. I wouldn't call Bloodseeker slow because he'll never have to run back to base for healing and can stay in jungle for a long time.
All I ever find is Mud Golems an Ursa's though when I jungle.[/QUOTE]
Nothing's worse when Jungling Enigma then finding mutliple mud golem camps.
Fuck those guys. Seriously.
played with a tide who kept using his ravage on one guy
Death prophet who never leveled her passive
Furion who did jack shit and kept saying my mom sucks dick and it was an easy win etc.
Void who didn't farm
Meepo
Riki who bought rapier as first item
The list goes on
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;38853087]There are several heroes that can jungle but lack the DPS to do it efficiently, and therefor are better off in lane unless your team's picks don't allow for it.
Efficient LVL1 Junglers: Enigma, Prophet, Lycan, Axe, Chen, Enchantress, Doom*, Lifestealer
Possible-but-slower LVL1 Junglers: Bloodseeker, Lone Druid, Ursa, Tinker, Skeleton King, Windrunner
(*Assuming you are not ridiculously unlucky with creep spawns and never find a Dark Troll Warlord, Forest Troll High Priest, Satyr Hellcaller, or Ogre Magi)[/QUOTE]
I've jungle Druid'd before and I find him faster than jungle axe.
These 2 stupid things happened in a game I had today and should be posted in dota2 blog (tips for newbie):
[B]1-[/B]If Bloodseeker cast rupture, [B]DON'T MOVE[/B].
There's always a chap in my team that dies stupidly because of it!
[B]2-[/B] If there's a Riki in your lane buy Gem of true sight.
Today a Sniper in my team died 8 times because of Riki.
I was snowballing with Traxex(thanks dumb Bloodseeker) but I couldn't do anything against Warlock and Riki with my same K/D ratio.
This one Weaver who built critical. He got Rampage. But obviously he didn't win because he built critical like the fucking retard he was.
[editline]16th December 2012[/editline]
We won, his team didn't, just to clarify.
I just saw one of the worst Drow's ever.
Too bad it was me.
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/79822153[/url]
[QUOTE=I am Error;38856488]I just saw one of the worst Drow's ever.
Too bad it was me.
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/79822153[/url][/QUOTE]
How does one fail at Drow.
[QUOTE=Rarara;38856517]How does one fail at Drow.[/QUOTE]
Drow is one of the only heroes I suck ass at, I can play others really well, but when I get Drow I do terribly and I know its just right clicks.
[QUOTE=I am Error;38856488]I just saw one of the worst Drow's ever.
Too bad it was me.
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/79822153[/url][/QUOTE]
I've played with worse.
Every single Spanish speaking person. [sp]I'm sorry if you're Spanish[/sp]
[QUOTE=iWumbo;38857086]Every single Spanish speaking person. [sp]I'm sorry if you're Spanish[/sp][/QUOTE]
i just learned spanish
wow fuck you
Chaos Knight died 12 times before the 10 minute mark. Only responds in Russian. He and his lanepartner DC's at the exact same time. 5 Min later our Kunkka leaves. Me (Death Prophet) and Viper is left and we fought 5 players for another 40 minutes. I was seriously surprised that we were able to gank them MANY times. We went on to lose by a hairs length.
[QUOTE=iWumbo;38857086]Every single Spanish speaking person. [sp]I'm sorry if you're Spanish[/sp][/QUOTE]
Mucho fiesta on my borrito.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;38857314]Chaos Knight died 12 times before the 10 minute mark. Only responds in Russian. He and his lanepartner DC's at the exact same time. 5 Min later our Kunkka leaves. Me (Death Prophet) and Viper is left and we fought 5 players for another 40 minutes. I was seriously surprised that we were able to gank them MANY times. We went on to lose by a hairs length.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the time where i was shadow shaman and by like 7 minutes, all of my teammates left so i was fighting 1v5. I went 19 8 1 by the time i lost. It was still pretty fun fighting 5 people fight my serpent wards.
[QUOTE=iWumbo;38857086]Every single Spanish speaking person. [sp]I'm sorry if you're Spanish[/sp][/QUOTE]
If you mean people who refuses to speak english it's: "Every single person who refuses to speak the language they are are supposed to in X server"
Unless you just mean people playing bad, in wich case: that's international.
[QUOTE=Rarara;38853350]I'd say put Lifestealer (And Lycan until he gets buffed) in slow and Tinker, Windrunner, Storm Spirit and Bloodseeker in shouldn't be jungling but still can.[/QUOTE]
Not a Lvl 1 jungler, but Alchemist easily can and should jungle after he gets lvl 4 Goblin's Greed.
[QUOTE=Suttles;38857289]i just learned spanish
wow fuck you[/QUOTE]
I'm just so sorry.
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