If Medusa has level 1 mana shield and 300 mana it blocks 225 damage, or 375 if level 2 mana shield.
Chances are you will have less mana than that and very few points in mana shield.
Amazing damage reduction right there.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;39219020]mana shield is her super imba carry ability like void's back track
but usually early on people level stats and snake for medusa, mana shield coming second, and medusa kind of NEEDS a free early farm.[/QUOTE]
stats is overrated on medusa because snake and shield are so good
zsmj doesn't get stats early and neither should you
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39219394]stats is overrated on medusa because snake and shield are so good
zsmj doesn't get stats early and neither should you[/QUOTE]
I once played with a Medusa who ignored both her shield and split-shot until level 14 for stats. Needless to say, she fed like hell.
At most, EVER, you get two points of stats. Levels 1 and 4. I usually don't get either, or just level one, and I can farm as much as I god damn want. In fact, it kinda' speeds up your farming. The faster you max your split-shot the faster you can farm, of course after your snake and shield.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;39221141]I once played with a Medusa who ignored both her shield and split-shot until level 14 for stats. Needless to say, she fed like hell.
At most, EVER, you get two points of stats. Levels 1 and 4. I usually don't get either, or just level one, and I can farm as much as I god damn want. In fact, it kinda' speeds up your farming. The faster you max your split-shot the faster you can farm.[/QUOTE]
But split shot does too little damage early to work as a farming tool, and you'll probably miss more last hits that anything else. Plus you'll push.
I never said get it first. I said to get it early as possible, by that I mean level up as fast as possible. After you max Mystic Snake and Mana Shield you go for it, always.
[editline]14th January 2013[/editline]
Seriously, I've seen people ignore it after shield for STATS. It's amazing for clearing camps and pushing, which you want to do at that point in the game.
People who can't play heroes as easy as Sniper. Just had a pub of all Spanish speaking people, who wouldn't even acknowledge what little I was able to say in Spanish. The guy was constantly feeding by just running next to enemies and trying to use his ult on them while he's literally standing point fucking blank, meanwhile PA and BH are just right clicking him to death and they're getting all the yums from him.
No xenophobia intended but it's people like this who just explode my balls with rage in Dota.
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39219394]stats is overrated on medusa because snake and shield are so good
zsmj doesn't get stats early and neither should you[/QUOTE]
snake and shield are good, yes indeed.
but as for leveling up some stats, why not? say you are at level 1, you have half of ring of aquila, some regen items, maybe branches, and you are up for some relatively free early farm, where do you tick your first level into? I would almost definitely go stats.
Stats are kind of a lack-luster to get AFTER your split-sphot is maxed out (among the rest) and you have a nearing full-farm, don't you think?
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;39224025]I've seen people ignore the SHIELD and max Split Shot first. Snake, Split Shot, stats and level 10 Stone Gaze. When I pointed it out, I get the generic shit-answer "Shut up and play the game ))".[/QUOTE]
ive played like 7 or 8 medusa games and whenever someone on my team picks her i end up getting REALLY fucking mad ... Not because I wanted to play her but because of their stupid builds and skill builds.
They just say "stfu u never even played her idiot ur just mad xd "
a 60 minute game of zero team coherency, rather a 60 minute game of 8 retarded children taking turns slapping each other.
fuck public matchmaking.
It's not really the matchmaking's fault, is it? The system is so littered with dickbags and bad players that it just simply isn't possible to play with only the good guys.
I say blame the community, not the matchmaking.
[QUOTE=Bordellimies;39227200]It's not really the matchmaking's fault, is it? The system is so littered with dickbags and bad players that it just simply isn't possible to play with only the good guys.
I say blame the community, not the matchmaking.[/QUOTE]
Blame both.
Force VALVe to apply super pro deluxe matchmaking device that tracks language used and usefulness during any and all matches, divided into 3 categories "Trying their best but not being too good" "Trying their best and doing decent enough" "Not trying/Insulting everyone because they are feeders"
Also, I had this Storm Spirit.
My team picked Storm Spirit and some other mid hero after I picked Pudge.
I do my best and roll over the Invoker at mid, Storm Spirit spams me to go ganking when I have 0 mana and runes spawn in 1 min.
Later my K/D is 8/2 (And his is 3/6 or something) and he says I'm a feeder and I suck at dota.
There was also an invis rune I was gonna use for a free gank and to refill my empty bottle, and Storm Spirit wastes his ENTIRE MANA POOL on ball lightninging over there before me, take the rune, activate instantly, then use bottle to refill mana, what the fuck. He'd gain about 5 times as much mana by not doing that.
Reasons why i fucking hate the match making system: [url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/100469761[/url]
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BUILD THAT FOR DROW. she was losing farm to morphling at mid all game, and fed him nonstop. then morphling has etherial blade at 12 ish minutes and dominates everyone on our team due to her not calling missing all game.
[QUOTE=ghosevil;39227169]a 60 minute game of zero team coherency, rather a 60 minute game of 8 retarded children taking turns slapping each other.
fuck public matchmaking.[/QUOTE]
Solo queue is a wonderous adventure of eating your own shit and eating your dumbass 4 other teammates' shit
Really it brings out a dark, rotten and poisoned side of Dota, that can make you VERY mad
[QUOTE=codemaster85;39230692]Reasons why i fucking hate the match making system: [url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/100469761[/url]
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BUILD THAT FOR DROW. she was losing farm to morphling at mid all game, and fed him nonstop. then morphling has etherial blade at 12 ish minutes and dominates everyone on our team due to her not calling missing all game.[/QUOTE]
he also built both vanguard and poormans on jugg, vlads on pl and naga what the fuck, lothars relic vanguard and poormans on veno, and sny on mirana
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;39230759]he also built both vanguard and poormans on jugg, vlads on pl and naga what the fuck, lothars relic vanguard and poormans on veno, and sny on mirana[/QUOTE]
i've found vladmirs aura is really useful on pl, really helps you farm better especially because with him i find he's more dependent on getting to level 16 than items really
[QUOTE=Ishwoo;39232502]i've found vladmirs aura is really useful on pl, really helps you farm better especially because with him i find he's more dependent on getting to level 16 than items really[/QUOTE]
1. vlads's whole gimmick is the lifesteal, which pl's illusions don't get
2. illusions do not benefit from raw damage or armour, which is part of vlads
3. illusions cannot lose mana (aside from mana burn), which makes vlads's mana regen a waste
[QUOTE=devon_wargod;39232566]1. vlads's whole gimmick is the lifesteal, which pl's illusions don't get
2. illusions do not benefit from raw damage or armour, which is part of vlads
3. illusions cannot lose mana (aside from mana burn), which makes vlads's mana regen a waste[/QUOTE]
i think you missed the part where i said it was helpful for farm. When the illusions spawn they have whatever your health at the time was and vladmirs aura means you can farm and then gank the lanes with a load of full hp illusions which is hard to do otherwise
[QUOTE=Ishwoo;39232502]i've found vladmirs aura is really useful on pl, really helps you farm better especially because with him i find he's more dependent on getting to level 16 than items really[/QUOTE]
+15% damage for you doesn't help all that much. Going for 2 of those agility blades (Blades of Alacrity?) required for Diffusal costs slightly less than vlads, yet you get +20 damage and +20% attack speed, and 3 armor. Vlads gives +15% damage which early on translates into about 10-20 damage based on your stats. So you miss out on the attack speed which means less illusions!
Granted it gives some manaregen, HP regen and +2 more armor, but going for Vlads as a farming tool is way less useful than an early diffusal.
Vlads is bought for non-orb lifesteal for melee heroes, if you want damage pretty much any other item works better. Drums give better damage output for teamfights, and they're cheaper.
Generally speaking I go for Soulring, Tranq boots, Ring of Aquila, and then Diffusal. Depending on the game, if I need tankability a Vanguard works really well, if I don't need it I can just go for a butterfly and the catman keeps snowballing much faster from there on out. After BFly a Tarrasque (If fighting and need hp) or Daedalus if I can still keep farming.
Soulring + Tranqs give the necessary HP regen early on, and they also allow for good Q harass. Aquila further supports the harassing part. With those 3 (Cheap) items you don't need Vlads for any regeneration.
If you want Vlads later on, sure go ahead, that way the lifesteal will be useful but you won't skip over necessary farming items. Tranqs can be disassembled for Vlad parts so that helps.
My lancer build is speed boots --> aquila --> full treads --> diffusal --> STRAIGHT INTO HEART OF TARRASQUE
i bought an armlet and a hood as alchemist, and my entire team thought i was dumb
"wtf your supposed to be tank!"
"ARMLET!!?!?!? -40hp a sec!!! NOT tank!"
despite that i had as many assists and kills but half as many deaths as the rest of the team it was all my fault we lost
[editline]16th January 2013[/editline]
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/100877161[/url]
no one criticized the necrolyte though
[QUOTE=Mobon1;39240115]i bought an armlet and a hood as alchemist, and my entire team thought i was dumb
"wtf your supposed to be tank!"
"ARMLET!!?!?!? -40hp a sec!!! NOT tank!"
despite that i had as many assists and kills but half as many deaths as the rest of the team it was all my fault we lost
[editline]16th January 2013[/editline]
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/100877161[/url]
no one criticized the necrolyte though[/QUOTE]
he has assist so is ok
Why do russians like Mask of Madness so much ? I've seen it on pubheroes like Drow, Huskar, Viper. But MoM on Anti-Mage was my favourite so far.
[QUOTE=Vengar;39241809]Why do russians like Mask of Madness so much ? I've seen it on pubheroes like Drow, Huskar, Viper. But MoM on Anti-Mage was my favourite so far.[/QUOTE]
I saw an Invoker with it recently. :v:
[QUOTE=Vengar;39241809]Why do russians like Mask of Madness so much ? I've seen it on pubheroes like Drow, Huskar, Viper. But MoM on Anti-Mage was my favourite so far.[/QUOTE]
Enchantress, Slark, Magnus, CLOCKWERK and Riki are heroes I've seen it on.
I hate when I have to explain why i get vlads on chen (if the situation calls for vlads).
[QUOTE=Rarara;39241897]Enchantress, Slark, Magnus, CLOCKWERK and Riki are heroes I've seen it on.[/QUOTE]
Ench and Magnus are legit and it's a pubstomping build on Slark.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;39239665]My lancer build is speed boots --> aquila --> full treads --> diffusal --> STRAIGHT INTO HEART OF TARRASQUE[/QUOTE]
You really don't need any real damage items for a while after Diffusal, his agility gain is just so damn high. After Heart you get Butterfly and your illusions are unkillable.
[editline]16th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Shibbey;39243002]Ench and Magnus are legit and it's a pubstomping build on Slark.[/QUOTE]
I once say an Enchantress on the enemy team got it when I was playing Shadow Fiend. One right-click and she popped like a balloon.
the past 4 games i've had people have been feeding, just had a game where drow had 22 deaths and was literally running in and letting them kill her and just doing it over and over again for the whole game :/
[QUOTE=Gareth;39244107]the past 4 games i've had people have been feeding, just had a game where drow had 22 deaths and was literally running in and letting them kill her and just doing it over and over again for the whole game :/[/QUOTE]
That's intentional feeding.
Had myself a 1/20 Tidehunter doing that and yelling trololol i report u!
[QUOTE=Idzo;39244138]That's intentional feeding.
Had myself a 1/20 Tidehunter doing that and yelling trololol i report u![/QUOTE]
no one would report him because he was knew/russian so they didnt understand what i was saying, looked at this steam profile and he has more play time than me...
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