If it is an MGS it's probably MGS5 and not GZ, Kojima already said GZ was not Project Ogre and the website for "Moby Dick Studios" says this:
[quote]Moby Dick Studio is a game developing company operating out of Stockholm, Sweden. Moby Dick Studio was founded by CEO Joakim M[B]ogre[/B]n who after years of working for a major American developer brought together people out of various game studios from around the Scandinavian area to start something new.[/quote]
Of course there's always the possibility that Kojima is just a bastard who's trying to trick us and this is some new IP.
But also this.
[img]http://backend.meristation.com/files/imagecache/inline/imagenes/general/7cqr2.jpg[/img]
Nah it's definitely MGS.
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/D6V7Yj.png[/IMG]
Joakim Mogren is actually a real person in Sweden, as it turns out.
[url]http://www.facebook.com/joakim.mogren?_ft_=fbid.10150348025371682[/url]
I hope you're not suggesting that he's the founder of Moby Dick Studios.
pretty sure there's a lot of joakim mogren's living in sweden.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;38750524]Joakim=Kojima[/QUOTE]
Holy shit I didn't notice that.
[QUOTE=Warriorx4;38750548]I hope you're not suggesting that he's the founder of Moby Dick Studios.[/QUOTE]
No, it's just funny.
Anyways, I cobbled this together.
[t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/metalgearmp9.png[/t]
The front sight and flashlights are the same, as is the rest of the gun most likely. This shows that Phantom Pain uses assets we saw in the Ground Zeroes trailer.
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Also if you look at the two pictures on the right the gloves the soldiers are wearing are the same.
Really like the atmosphere in the video. Im kind of hoping its a MGS spinoff sort of like the Yakuza zombie game.
MGS story lines are just getting more and more confusing.... I doubt even Konami knows wtf is going on.
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;38750560]Holy shit I didn't notice that.[/QUOTE]
Mogren: M-ogre-n (kojima has been working on project ogre)
ok thats more conspiracy but yeah.
Why would anyone do drugs when you have Metal Gear Solid?
[QUOTE=Jackald;38753306]What if it's not even MGS5. Wasn't kojima saying that Ground Zeroes, MGS5 and Project Ogre were all seperate projects?
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I mean this just strikes me as being too easy too... obvious. What if all the MGS5 hints are to cover up the hints as to what it actually is?[/QUOTE]
I'm nearly one hundred percent sure he said Ground Zeroes and Project Ogre was not the same, but I don't remember him saying MGS5 and Project Ogre were not the same, I could easily be wrong though.
Anyway, this is some crazy conspiracy shit.
Just like in MGS.
He never said GZ was Project Ogre but then again there was that screenshot of an APC type vehicle and a guy sneaking about which was supposed to be Project Ogre in Fox Engine.
He's really fucking with us this time, more-so than he ever has.
[QUOTE=spekter;38754481]He never said GZ was Project Ogre but then again there was that screenshot of an APC type vehicle and a guy sneaking about which was supposed to be Project Ogre in Fox Engine.
He's really fucking with us this time, more-so than he ever has.[/QUOTE]
What about not telling us Raiden was the main character of MGS2?
[QUOTE=elowin;38754527]What about not telling us Raiden was the main character of MGS2?[/QUOTE]
To be honest that was more of a blunt surprise than a series of highly cryptic pieces of media.
[QUOTE=spekter;38754538]To be honest that was more of a blunt surprise than a series of highly cryptic pieces of media.[/QUOTE]
Still fucking with the fans big time, though.
i always thought the funny part about playing as raiden was that the game was exactly the same, just your avatar in the world happens to be a complete bitch.
like for those of you who play far cry 3, did jason's being a little bitch turn you off to the game? fuck no, the game was still fun even though you were playing as someone who seems like he's missing a testicle or something.
more speculation: gz will end where mg1 starts and this whole dream sequence is after snake beats big boss at the end of mg1.
[url]http://www.metalgearsolid.net/snatcher-project[/url]
Well.
The man did look like Dr. Madnar.
I just love the feeling I get when I talk with my friends about cryptic stuff like this.
Its just so fun to make up theories of what everything is.
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Like what if The Phantom Pain is MG1 and MG2 from Big Boss' perspective?
Like the trailer is what happened after MG1, where Snake burned Big Boss.
Would explain Magnar siding with Big Boss, his terrible condition and the hallucinations of fire.
[QUOTE=Hakita;38756020]I just love the feeling I get when I talk with my friends about cryptic stuff like this.
Its just so fun to make up theories of what everything is.
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Like what if The Phantom Pain is MG1 and MG2 from Big Boss' perspective?
Like the trailer is what happened after MG1, where Snake burned Big Boss.
Would explain Magnar siding with Big Boss, his terrible condition and the hallucinations of fire.[/QUOTE]
Snake burned him in MG2.
In the first game he shot big boss and the base was bombed to hell by fighter jets.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;38756131]Snake burned him in MG2.
In the first game he shot big boss and the base was bombed to hell by fighter jets.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I got those mixed then.
Still though, kind of makes sense with the fire theme and the bombs and stuff.
The soldiers trying to kill Big Boss were probably US troops.
[QUOTE=Hakita;38756149]Oh, I got those mixed then.
Still though, kind of makes sense with the fire theme and the bombs and stuff.
The soldiers trying to kill Big Boss were probably US troops.[/QUOTE]
They're wearing Fox uniforms.
There was a picture posted earlier, same gun, same flashlight on the gun, same gloves.
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[t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/metalgearmp9.png[/t]
This one.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38755794]more speculation: gz will end where mg1 starts and this whole dream sequence is after snake beats big boss at the end of mg1.[/QUOTE]
That would make a lot of sense actually. Could easily explain the missing arm and stuff.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;38756362]They're wearing Fox uniforms.
There was a picture posted earlier, same gun, same flashlight on the gun, same gloves.
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[t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/metalgearmp9.png[/t]
This one.[/QUOTE]
But isn't FOX a part of the US government?
[QUOTE=Hakita;38756717]But isn't FOX a part of the US government?[/QUOTE]
pretty sure those are XOF soldiers not FOX.
One of the images of the supposed "phantom" looks like snake at the beginning of portable ops for psp.
(Edit: I'm obviously talking about this picture[IMG]http://www.destructoid.com//ul/240134-the-phantom-pain-announced-at-vga-2012/alt-noscale.jpg[/IMG])
[QUOTE=darth-veger;38751967]
[IMG]http://pu.cdn.hub.nl/media/games/metal_gear_solid_5/volgin2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://pu.cdn.hub.nl/media/games/metal_gear_solid_5/volgin1.png[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
Oh by the way, if you look closely, you can see the bullet belt.
[QUOTE=MenInBlack23;38756844]One of the images of the supposed "phantom" looks like snake at the beginning of portable ops for psp.
(Edit: I'm obviously talking about this picture[IMG]http://www.destructoid.com//ul/240134-the-phantom-pain-announced-at-vga-2012/alt-noscale.jpg[/IMG])[/QUOTE]
that's because it IS big boss.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;38756821]pretty sure those are XOF soldiers not FOX.[/QUOTE]
Well XOF is just inverted FOX, but then again, Kojima always gave everything silly names in MGS.
We really dont know much about XOF so far, so I don't really want to dwelve into that territory yet.
[QUOTE=MenInBlack23;38756844]One of the images of the supposed "phantom" looks like snake at the beginning of portable ops for psp.
(Edit: I'm obviously talking about this picture[IMG]http://www.destructoid.com//ul/240134-the-phantom-pain-announced-at-vga-2012/alt-noscale.jpg[/IMG])[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, its not exactly a secret that that person is Big Boss.
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