MGS2 was shit imho, just because of the camera and how gay raiden was.
anybody feel like mgs 2 had the best ai
they would actively do things like clear out rooms with flashbangs and shit
idk it was probably because the levels were more enclosed
in the later games the ai doesn't really do anything tactical besides shooting at you
[QUOTE=poopiecrap;37603361]If ground zeroes doesn't have first person mode i will cry[/QUOTE]
You mean like in MGS4 or a legit FP mode where you can manouver like in a FPS?
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[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37603514]anybody feel like mgs 2 had the best ai
they would actively do things like clear out rooms with flashbangs and shit
idk it was probably because the levels were more enclosed
in the later games the ai doesn't really do anything tactical besides shooting at you[/QUOTE]
I think it's because they had more contained areas half the time. Though it is odd that they never tried to make AI any better throughout the series.
[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37603514]anybody feel like mgs 2 had the best ai
they would actively do things like clear out rooms with flashbangs and shit
idk it was probably because the levels were more enclosed
in the later games the ai doesn't really do anything tactical besides shooting at you[/QUOTE]
Yeah the AI was nice, the bosses we're retardedly easy though compared to the average soldiers. Also how the hell am I supposed to do this CQC shit in MGS3? I never understood it.
I prefer mgs2 to snake eater.
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It was a lot harder to hide in snake eater, but it could just be me.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;37603479]MGS2 was shit imho, just because of the camera and how gay raiden was.[/QUOTE]
it's a shame that you're WRONG
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;37603620]it's a shame that you're WRONG[/QUOTE]
I'm serious, the big shell incident was just stupid and raiden was such a faggot. I don't see how he plays into the MGS story other than being saved by him in MGS4. And the bosses were stupid I mean cmon now Fatman? Vamp? Some stupid bitch who has a really strong magnet that repels bullets? I mean that is just dumb.
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If you can explain to me about how MGS2 wasn't just dumb then go ahead and tell me.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;37603650]I'm serious, the big shell incident was just stupid and raiden was such a faggot. I don't see how he plays into the MGS story other than being saved by him in MGS4. And the bosses were stupid I mean cmon now Fatman? Vamp? Some stupid bitch who has a really strong magnet that repels bullets? I mean that is just dumb.If you can explain to me about how MGS2 wasn't just dumb then go ahead and tell me. [/QUOTE]
And a man shooting bees out of his mouth, a guy over a hundred years old that can run faster than a man in his thirties, a ghost, a crazy astronaut with a flame-thrower and a man who can dislocate his joints on command just to be scary isn't silly to you?
And when you take metal gear solid a bit more serious and I mean all of it a bit more serious it is pretty stupid.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;37603650]I'm serious, the big shell incident was just stupid and raiden was such a faggot. I don't see how he plays into the MGS story other than being saved by him in MGS4. And the bosses were stupid I mean cmon now Fatman? Vamp? Some stupid bitch who has a really strong magnet that repels bullets? I mean that is just dumb.
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If you can explain to me about how MGS2 wasn't just dumb then go ahead and tell me.[/QUOTE]
it's a fucking metal gear solid game
get over yourself jesus christ
Compared to an obese 600 pound guy who can roller skate and a vampire and some super strong magnet chick? They we're okay.
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I love all of the other games ( Havent seen portable ops yet ) but MGS2 just didn't appeal to me, yeah i still played it and I bought it again just to beat it again but it just seems like crap.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;37603650]And the bosses were stupid I mean cmon now Fatman? Vamp? Some stupid bitch who has a really strong magnet that repels bullets? I mean that is just dumb.[/QUOTE]
As opposed to a guy who can control and spit bees, a guy who can turn invisible and climb trees in a crab-position, a dead guy who sends the people you've killed against you and a guy who can shoot 10 million volts of lightning out of his hands?
MGS has always had retarded bosses.
[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37603702]it's a fucking metal gear solid game
get over yourself jesus christ[/QUOTE]
But I love you.
MY MERGE
And alright you have a point, I guess I just don't like MGS2 and I'm alone.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;37603718]Compared to an obese 600 pound guy who can roller skate and a vampire and some super strong magnet chick? They we're okay.
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Did I mention the pain grows these special hornets in his own body? And he does a silly little dance to command them.
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We should stop fighting now.
yes we should, back onto the subject of MGS. What are some good easy CQC combos I can do in MGS3? Also how do I hold someone as a meatshield?
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Non HD collection
Does any one have tips on how to sneak up on The End.
[QUOTE=father_snake;37603815]Meatshield you can do by holding the square button or X button if you play on the xbox.
Also does any one have tips on how to sneak up on The End.[/QUOTE]
find where he is and make sure to sneak walk behind him
then hold him up with a weapon
aim at his head multiple times until he gives you items
dont do it too many times or he'll throw a flashbang and run away
do it like once and then shoot him
[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37603853]find where he is and make sure to sneak walk behind him
then hold him up with a weapon
aim at his head multiple times until he gives you items
dont do it too many times or he'll throw a flashbang and run away
do it like once and then shoot him[/QUOTE]
Thanks man.
[QUOTE=father_snake;37603815]Meatshield you can do by holding the square button or X button if you play on the xbox.
Also does any one have tips on how to sneak up on The End.[/QUOTE]
Wear thermal goggles, keep your camo index above 75 and just crawl until you find him, when you get within 60 feet just slowly start sneaking towards him, if you're behind him you can sneak up to him on your feet and aim at his head. And if you want you can do the map cheat that shows you his location if you want to get his camo. It should be Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right Square Triangle.
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also the max times you can aim at him is 3
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;37603650]I'm serious, the big shell incident was just stupid and raiden was such a faggot. I don't see how he plays into the MGS story other than being saved by him in MGS4. And the bosses were stupid I mean cmon now Fatman? Vamp? Some stupid bitch who has a really strong magnet that repels bullets? I mean that is just dumb.
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If you can explain to me about how MGS2 wasn't just dumb then go ahead and tell me.[/QUOTE]
metal gear solid is the goofiest fucking game series and if you think otherwise you're just wrong, lol. ghosts, magic, conspiracy, ridiculous dialogue, METAL GEAR?, etc etc. I've only played MGS1/2 (gonna start 3 in a few weeks); MGS1 and MGS2 both kept me extremely interested in the plot. Yeah, the bosses were more interesting in MGS1 - but it's hard to follow up on them. Fighting Psycho Mantis is one of the most awesome boss battles I've ever done, but so was the final fight against the Metal Gears & Solidus.
Raiden is not as badass as Snake but he is a shitload more interesting than him. The relationship between Jack & Rose is developed pretty well (albeit a bit mushy at times, but hey, that's what MGS is about - extremes) and Jack's backstory is really interesting. I also think that the Big Shell incident was more interesting than most of Shadow Moses - both the SS3 plan and the conspiracy behind it.
the whole thing plays a shitload better than MGS1, the behind the scenes story is much more engaging. But I'd agree that MGS1 "feels" better in some respects, ie FOXDIE & Spirit Wolf, etc. I definitely missed the long, drawn out melodramatic monologues about war. those were cool.
Oh, and if he flips around but doesn't see you. Just don't move and wait about 10 seconds and then continue.
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MY MERGE
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[QUOTE=BrickInHead;37603890]metal gear solid is the goofiest fucking game series and if you think otherwise you're just wrong, lol. ghosts, magic, conspiracy, ridiculous dialogue, METAL GEAR?, etc etc. I've only played MGS1/2 (gonna start 3 in a few weeks); MGS1 and MGS2 both kept me extremely interested in the plot. Yeah, the bosses were more interesting in MGS1 - but it's hard to follow up on them. Fighting Psycho Mantis is one of the most awesome boss battles I've ever done, but so was the final fight against the Metal Gears & Solidus.
Raiden is not as badass as Snake but he is a shitload more interesting than him. The relationship between Jack & Rose is developed pretty well (albeit a bit mushy at times, but hey, that's what MGS is about - extremes) and Jack's backstory is really interesting. I also think that the Big Shell incident was more interesting than most of Shadow Moses - both the SS3 plan and the conspiracy behind it.
the whole thing plays a shitload better than MGS1, the behind the scenes story is much more engaging. But I'd agree that MGS1 "feels" better in some respects, ie FOXDIE & Spirit Wolf, etc. I definitely missed the long, drawn out melodramatic monologues about war. those were cool.[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll have to play through it again, maybe I just didn't get it. I'll play it this weekend when I'm not grounded.
if you wanna talk about disappointing bosses, i thought the b&b corp from mgs4 was boring and stupid
their boss fights weren't very memorable imo
I remember getting to the later stages on MGS3 on my attempt to get Stealth. I hate characters that you have to escort/defend.
Yeah I was going to try and get stealth, failed in about 30 minutes. My current playthrough is going to be boss camo only, next one will be my stealth playthrough and the one where I catch that damn snake.
[QUOTE=KigJow;37603988]I remember getting to the later stages on MGS3 on my attempt to get Stealth. I hate characters that you have to escort/defend.[/QUOTE]
the easiest way to get past that part would be to just knock her out and carry her around
this honestly is the easiest way to get through that part of the game
My PS2 refuses to read discs anymore, but I'm aching to do another run of MGS3 with nothing but that shit camo that made you smell like shit and the MK22.
Looking back at it, I liked MGS2 a lot more than I first played it. The parallel's it had with the first MGS1 where it had similar set pieces. It made you want to THINK that you were gonna be Solid Snake, just like Raiden's codename was "Snake" but later changed to Raiden. And everything in the game was Raiden trying to surpass Solid Snake. Pay more attention and you'll find more than enough instances that MGS2 is pretty much MGS1 but Kojima twisting our expectations.
[URL]http://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/DOTM_TOC.htm[/URL] interesting read and makes me appreciate the subtleties Kojima put in the game
[t]http://www.deltaheadtranslation.com/MGS2/Images/07SnakeRaidenArrivals.jpg[/t]
dont you wish you could eat the dogs
no jk snake dont do that THATS CRUEL
[QUOTE=KigJow;37604119]My PS2 refuses to read discs anymore, but I'm aching to do another run of MGS3 with nothing but that shit camo that made you smell like shit and the MK22.[/QUOTE]
Open it up and clean the laser with some alcohol and a cotton q tip.
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Snake: "So about those dogs...." Para-Medic: "SNAKE!!!"
[QUOTE=RichyZ;37604137]i wish you could snap the dog's' necks at grozny grad, they're so fucking annoying
ok sneaking into the buil-WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF what is it boy you see a spy?
BWOOP BWOOP INTRUDER ALERT INTRUDER ALERT[/QUOTE]
Use your Mk22. Or if you're a dick you could use your M1911A1
Or if you're a real dick, Use the RPG.
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