• World of Tanks - Chinese Bootleg Edition
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[QUOTE=Error_404;39426089]Dear god, the Lorraine 40t is horrible with the stock suspension and engine! I have the 100mm cannon mounted from my 50 100, but it's impossible to mount any equipment due to the weight restrictions. I'm seriously considering getting the 3 tonne improved suspension, just so I can have a vstab and vents or GLD to fix the atrocious aim time.[/QUOTE] It's a PoS. Even when upgraded. Only thing to do is snipe. Even when you have top engine it only allows you to get to better early sniping positions and do a bit of late game killing shot shit. Never ever ever get shot at. Nothing ever bounces and everyone will take you out first because of your decent firepower.
[QUOTE=Rollup;39426331]It's a PoS. Even when upgraded. Only thing to do is snipe. Even when you have top engine it only allows you to get to better early sniping positions and do a bit of late game killing shot shit. Never ever ever get shot at. Nothing ever bounces and everyone will take you out first because of your decent firepower.[/QUOTE] You don't get shot at because of your decent firepower, you get shot at because you're a tank the size of Texas with no armor and WoTards see you as easy XP :v: I wouldn't go as far as saying the Lorraine is a piece of shit, it fucking rapes everything it encounters but it's just not enjoyable to play when you're the #1 target on the battlefield. The only time a pubbie team will focus fire is when they spot a Lorraine.
i am mad now. i can't handle these games. KV-5 is a useless pile of shit now most games. silver gold has fucked over armour for everyone. im done
[QUOTE=lintz;39426771]i am mad now. i can't handle these games. KV-5 is a useless pile of shit now most games. silver gold has fucked over armour for everyone. im done[/QUOTE] if you can angle your hull and cover your r2D2, the only gold shells you have to worry about comes from TD's, at least thats how it usually goes from me.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39426788]if you can angle your hull and cover your r2D2, the only gold shells you have to worry about comes from TD's, at least thats how it usually goes from me.[/QUOTE] They still can pen the hugeass paperthin gun mask (180mm).
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;39426809]They still can pen the hugeass paperthin gun mask (180mm).[/QUOTE] the mantlet is rounded, not flat 180mm, you can't pen that reliably. [editline]31st January 2013[/editline] the front turret armor is 180 though at an almost flat angle so any t8 gun can reliably pen it when unangled
[QUOTE=lintz;39426771]i am mad now. i can't handle these games. KV-5 is a useless pile of shit now most games. silver gold has fucked over armour for everyone. im done[/QUOTE] I always sidescrape in mine, 150mm at a 30 degree angle - most shitpubs go for your side and blackhole tracks instead of your turret when they see that, too, if they're smarter just hide your turret behind the building until you can shoot the fucker. Managed to hold up an ST-I, KT and an IS-3 that way once until my team simply flanked around their ass. Countless of other similiar stories to tell, too.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;39426809]They still can pen the hugeass paperthin gun mask (180mm).[/QUOTE] Like orkel said, it's still pretty thick and not a whole lot of shitpubs know about that weak point. When you're done firing, keep rotating your turret back and forth so they have less chance of penning it and it'll make your copulas harder to hit.
oh man im lost. should I complete the panther line (only have stock panther) the Tiger line (only have stock tiger)
Tiger because it's the goddamn Tiger
[QUOTE=cr2142;39427006]oh man im lost. should I complete the panther line (only have stock panther) the Tiger line (only have stock tiger)[/QUOTE] Panther. E-50=Best T9 med. Panther and Panther II are also very good but it may take some getting used to until you understand their play style.
[QUOTE=Inplabth;39426667]I remember when the Lorraine was still OP as shit before the grand french tank nerf. Good times.[/QUOTE] It was a piece of shit then too. It's always had one of the lowest global WRs. [editline]31st January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39427076]E-50=Best T9 med[/QUOTE] hahahaahahahaah T-54 says hi
[QUOTE=scout1;39427125] hahahaahahahaah T-54 says hi[/QUOTE] I have no trouble squishing tiny soviet toys with my 70 tons of German rampanzer. It's pretty easy to start off with an advantage in a 1v1 when you ram a good chunk of your opponents health away.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39427187]I have no trouble squishing tiny soviet toys with my 70 tons of German rampanzer. It's pretty easy to start off with an advantage in a 1v1 when you ram a good chunk of your opponents health away.[/QUOTE] If they let you ram them they're playing it wrong anyway
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39427187]I have no trouble squishing tiny soviet toys with my 70 tons of German rampanzer. It's pretty easy to start off with an advantage in a 1v1 when you ram a good chunk of your opponents health away.[/QUOTE] A T-54 really shouldn't be standing still ever It has the same front armor as the E-50 (and better turret armor), has a better power/weight ratio, the same DPM (very slightly better actually), the removed governor, and massively better turret and track traverse rates Really the only thing the E-50 has on the T-54 is health and I think slightly better accuracy on the move Edit: Also its WAYYY smaller
[quote] - tier 10 light tanks? "I am really not sure" (SS: apparently there was another leak from somewhere saying those might come eventually) - WG doesn't plan to make a singleplayer game (SS: connected to the question what is WG going to do with the new console game US studio it bought) [b]- apparently, the Leopard's gun L7A3 might be even more accurate and have faster aiming than the one of the E-50M [u] (SS: 0.28 mentioned)[/u][/b] - there is no en-masse amnesty planned for banned accounts, each case is handled individually - no special matchmaking for platoons is planned (SS: for example for the cases where one team recieves one platoon of 3xHT8, another 2xMT6) to make them more balanced - HE shells have no limit on module criticals damaged per shot, this only concerns crewmembers (SS: HE shell can never kill more than half of the crew with one shot, the borderline case being 3 of 5) - SS: this is a bit indirect answer but from what I understood, there are no light tanks candidates for now for tier 10 - WG doesn't support the P2W attitude despite the fact that the Chinese (SEA) server sort of inclines to it - T-34/100 has not yet been introduced as a premium vehicle, because there is the possibility of it being introduced as a regular vehicle - SerB writes that the "late model" E-75 (designated "F") having a rear transmission is a hoax and that there are no existing graphic materials suggesting there was any such things, Doyle also agrees there was no such thing - holes in tanks after they are hit have no effect on the armor (SS: eg if you hit a place where another shell has previously penetrated, it doesn't count as 0 armor area) - both US and RU servers have roughly the same amount of people mass-using gold shells - disabling one map from the random map pool? "Let's say we won't do it for now" - the system where you can "forgive" teamdamage (SS: the teamdamager doesn't get "ban points" if you forgive him) is not going to be implemented - tanks in game do not act as a arty splash barrier (SS: if a MS-1 stands hidden behind the Maus, an arty shell falls next to the Maus so that the Maus stands between it and the MS-1, if the splash is big enough to reach the MS-1, it will get damaged despite the fact it is covered) - it's possible the British crews will get additional names in their name and surname pool in the future ("when it's done it's done") - T-62A was introduced as the Object 165 without the smoothbore gun instead of the paper project Object 142 because 1) some T-62A's were actually built (around 100 pieces) and 2) Object 142 is practically the same as one of the T-54 versions that already is in the branch, it's possible (but not guaranteed) that the Object 142 will appear as a separate vehicle - SerB doesn't see any suitable tanks for German premium T8 med tank - smoke shells and generators are difficult to implement technically, they will come in distant future - no plans to introduce earning gold in random battles - Province will be remade "if needed" - AMX AC 48 mantlet thickness is 150mm - SerB is exping up the British medium branch, he's at the Cromwell now - according to SerB, WoT works on Windows 8 just fine[/quote]
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39427288] - HE shells have no limit on module criticals damaged per shot, this only concerns crewmembers (SS: HE shell can never kill more than half of the crew with one shot, the borderline case being 3 of 5)[/QUOTE] BS, had our batchat in tank companies last night lose 3 members out of 4 when he got splashed
three games with the Tiger today in all 3, shots that would have killed or seriously damaged tanks bounced or did no damage, meanwhile tanks were magically able to go through the angled slopes yeah not bullshit at all
[QUOTE=cr2142;39427006]oh man im lost. should I complete the panther line (only have stock panther) the Tiger line (only have stock tiger)[/QUOTE] From my experience, I'd say the Tiger just so you can get the Tiger II. The Panther and Panther II okay but not great, and the stock E-50 grind was so bad it caused me to quit World of Tanks for months. (Although that might be a good thing depending how you look at it.) Really, you should already have the best German tank, the VK3601. German tanks are pretty mediocre overall. [editline]31st January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Taggart;39427334]three games with the Tiger today in all 3, shots that would have killed or seriously damaged tanks bounced or did no damage, meanwhile tanks were magically able to go through the angled slopes yeah not bullshit at all[/QUOTE] The Tiger just isn't a good tank. That's all there is to it. Aside from a weird mantlet, it has no armor relative to the things you will fight in it. A carefully aimed long 88 is the only somewhat redeeming factor to it, but honestly I wouldn't mind if they would just drop the tank down one tier and remove the long 88. I think it would be a lot more fun as a tier 6 heavy comparable to an M6 than a mediocre tier 7 heavy.
Can people who are better than me at this game compare the T10 meds currently in the game? I don't need a huge thesis, something simplified works.
The Tiger is fine - It would be far better if it faced tanks it actually did, and the matchmaking sucks dick, but how good the Tiger is essentially lies with the player. The armour can be offset by good angles, careful movement, and cover - the Tiger is basically a heavy sniper due to all the others heavies it can face. Long 88 supports that. That doesn't change the fact that it's complete bullshit that basically the only armour capable of dinging anything without having to rely too much on angles (the angled slopes below the box hull) are suddenly magically capable of being penetrated for serious damage while the Long 88 does a 0 damage crit right in the back of a Cromwell's turret
[QUOTE=scout1;39427310]BS, had our batchat in tank companies last night lose 3 members out of 4 when he got splashed[/QUOTE] 3 is the limit, no matter how much crew is in the tank
[QUOTE=Raidyr;39427384]Can people who are better than me at this game compare the T10 meds currently in the game? I don't need a huge thesis, something simplified works.[/QUOTE] batchat for autocannons, T-62A for everything else done
I have a 58.4% win ratio with the tiger after 554 battles, it's NOT a bad tank. Anyone who says it's bad just doesn't know how to play it right.
[QUOTE=Orkel;39427440]3 is the limit, no matter how much crew is in the tank[/QUOTE] I've lost 4 out of 5 crew on my Jagdpanther. I guess it's possible I got hit by two HE at once but I'm not sure.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;39427506]I've lost 4 out of 5 crew on my Jagdpanther. I guess it's possible I got hit by two HE at once but I'm not sure.[/QUOTE] Yeah, or it happened before the HE patch back then. It's been hardcapped at 3. [editline]31st January 2013[/editline] Oh right, it doesn't apply on penetrating HE hits. The hardcap of 3 is only for splash and non-penetrating hits
I feel like I'm the only person who has never penetrated a KV-5 in the mantlet. I've had BL-10 shells dinging off the damn thing. I just go for the R2D2 or the lower hull, it's the only way I ever pen them.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39427288][quote]- according to SerB, WoT works on Windows 8 just fine[/quote][/QUOTE] "Just fine"? On my notebook with Win8 it's been working perfectly and I've been playing almost every day since November.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;39427273]A T-54 really shouldn't be standing still ever It has the same front armor as the E-50 (and better turret armor), has a better power/weight ratio, the same DPM (very slightly better actually), the removed governor, and massively better turret and track traverse rates Really the only thing the E-50 has on the T-54 is health and I think slightly better accuracy on the move Edit: Also its WAYYY smaller[/QUOTE] I'll again point to the fact that an E-50 can move at 60 km/h and weighs 70 tons. It's not hard to ram a T-54, regardless if he's moving or not.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39427859]I'll again point to the fact that an E-50 can move at 60 km/h and weighs 70 tons. It's not hard to ram a T-54, regardless if he's moving or not.[/QUOTE] So can the T-54 with significantly better maneuverability, the point remains the only T-54 you're going to ram is the stupid one.
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