[QUOTE=Orkel;39586544]2801 is also getting a massive -4 degree nerf to its hull traverse speed. And +2-3 tons more weight so it'll be even more sluggish.[/QUOTE]
Orkel pls stop you're killing me ;~;
[QUOTE=Orkel;39586237]Looks like they are upping the ingame speed limit.
[t]http://i45.tinypic.com/2yty1ok.jpg[/t]
The new T3 Pz.I goes a whopping [B]79 km/h[/B][/QUOTE]
100km/h hellcat / mototank mt-25 pls
No wait, the traverse nerf is false info.
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2801 front hull goes from 60mm to 50mm, so there goes the "armor advantage" it was supposed to have.
If these changes stay I'm selling it when 8.4 hits
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Stats for all the TDs
[url]http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/207444-stats-for-the-new-british-tds-in-test-84-1/[/url]
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;39586559]100km/h hellcat / mototank mt-25 pls[/QUOTE]
Dont forget its turret traverse and agile turning.
[QUOTE=Orkel;39586565]If these changes stay I'm selling it when 8.4 hits[/QUOTE]
Same here, at least I'll have a good crew for the Pz I Ausf. C then :v:
[QUOTE=MadCatMkII;39586217][del]I just checked and they're not actually giving it more health[/del] I'm not sure if I'm reading that right so I'll leave that out. So all they did was move it up a tier and nerf its best gun. Sure it was ridiculous, but aren't dead-end lights supposed to be?
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Why couldn't they just leave the gun the way it was since they're moving it up a tier? Isn't that the logical choice in this?
Oh wait, this is Wargaming we're talking about.[/QUOTE]
Wait and see what they do with the MM. If they make it normal T6 light MM then it drops two tiers off the top from where it is now.
The herp derp gun had to be nerfed at some point. It was mad. We all want a balanced game don't we ? (LoLZ)
Ugh, does the Tortoise really have such a big weak spot frontal?
[img]http://i1321.photobucket.com/albums/u546/nicknamenotavailable/tier9arm_zpsfbff6fab.jpg[/img]
That just ruins it.
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;39583146]I am still torn between the Ferdi and the Jagdpanther II after thinking about it a bit more. While I really do like the combination of firepower and speed, as is the case with the Hellcat (which I really like) and that the JP2 has, the change of pace that the Ferdi offers is an opportunity that is hard to pass up. Being in a TD that can actually face other tanks is an appealing prospect.[/QUOTE]
Ferdi's armor is totally obsolete now. Better to get the JpII and not have to research engines you won't even be using anyway. I have a ferd and though I can make the thing dance, more often than not people can either pen me with normal AP or they just load gold. No camo, no speed... it's not very good.
[QUOTE=Orkel;39586250]VK2801 is getting its speed massively nerfed from 72 to 60 km/h[/QUOTE]
wtf
[QUOTE=Orkel;39586565]2801 front hull goes from 60mm to 50mm, so there goes the "armor advantage" it was supposed to have.
If these changes stay I'm selling it when 8.4 hits[/QUOTE]
WHAT THE FUCK... ugh if they nerf it this bad I'll be selling it too. It's not even that amazing, it's just good.
[QUOTE=Menelven;39585654][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/55jCqHD.jpg[/IMG]
Test server has gone up.
Other things I noticed, Churchill gun carrier gets the 32 pounder gun, Tortoise has the L1A1 120mm.[/QUOTE]
Good bye to pretty much the whole German tree. Power creep has claimed you and the only advantage you ever had. It was an honor.
Is WG so seriously retarded that they would actually add this gun to the game?
Just read through a few of the old WoT threads (one two and three) and saw at one point someone had a press account but some people here had the 'If I cant have it, no one can!' mentality
God I hate those people
[sub][sub]sorry if you still post here <3[/sub][/sub]
On a note related to the video:
'Tank aint shit its the players, lets make a guide about it, teach them how to play it, russian bias my ass'
I like how the maus just isn't supposed to be a good tank unless it's a city map.
wargaming in charge of balance.
[QUOTE=Orkel;39586817]*Maus video*[/QUOTE]
I just feel sorry for the Maus.
Fuck WG im fucking amazed how retarded they are !!!! SWERGJUHNCVTRIHU5 !!!! FUUUCK !!!! how can nyou fuck up something up so hard
*serb* ''Hey do you know whats a good thing to do?
*WG employe* what is it?
*serb*lets move the vk2601 up a tier.....but lets make it worse!
*WG employe* Oh boy, that sounds like an amazing idea!
[QUOTE=SGTenima123;39586966]Fuck WG im fucking amazed how retarded they are !!!! SWERGJUHNCVTRIHU5 !!!! FUUUCK !!!! how can nyou fuck up something up so hard
*serb* ''Hey do you know whats a good thing to do?
*WG employe* what is it?
*serb*lets move the vk2601 up a tier.....but lets make it worse!
*WG employe* Oh boy, that sounds like an amazing idea![/QUOTE]
historical accuracy
Any full download links for the 8.4 test?
I have a 100 mb/s connection available to me for the next 6 hours, might as well use it properly.
I'd like to point out to everyone that the VK2801 has always been a tier 6 in everything but name. The VK2801, the chaffee and the T-50-2 are all regarded by matchmaker as tier 6 vehicles.
So the one advantage the VK2801 had over the other two, its top speed and its gun have been nerfed. It was sluggish enough to begin with.
max turret traverse, not that much
[img]http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww36/Mezzerik/shot_007_zpsde4e1422.jpg[/img]
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Also new stat added to after battle stats - "potential damage received"
[img]http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww36/Mezzerik/shot_011_zps5f6d42a5.jpg[/img]
Oh good lord those VK2801 nerfs
If this keeps up - goodbye sweet prince. I'll have to find somewhere to put 4 crew skills worth of germans.
Maus -> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, 9 view range.
Yay gj
[QUOTE=scout1;39587093]Oh good lord those VK2801 nerfs
If this keeps up - goodbye sweet prince. I'll have to find somewhere to put 4 crew skills worth of germans.[/QUOTE]
Pz. II ausf G.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39587017]I'd like to point out to everyone that the VK2801 has always been a tier 6 in everything but name. The VK2801, the chaffee and the T-50-2 are all regarded by matchmaker as tier 6 vehicles.[/QUOTE]
Yes but now they're actually making it tier 6 whilst also taking away what made it competitive with the other "tier 6" (chaffee and t-50-2) lights.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39587017]I'd like to point out to everyone that the VK2801 has always been a tier 6 in everything but name. The VK2801, the chaffee and the T-50-2 are all regarded by matchmaker as tier 6 vehicles.[/QUOTE]I agree with your sentiment, but it's worse than that :-
[B]Line ending T5 lights have WORSE matchmaking than T6 lights[/B]
T50-2, VK2801 and Chaffee are dinosaurs of the old MM system. If they go up a tier and get Tier 6 MM they need to be nerfed to bring them in line with Chinese and French T6s. All will end up this way when WG get round to fixing them, and then the line will probably be stretched to Tier 10.
Really no point constantly proclaiming "Moved up a tier and NERFED !!! OMG OMG"
The german tanks are suppossed to be effective only in horrendous amounts
Too bad WG doesn't see that soviet tanks work like that too
[QUOTE=Rollup;39587140]I agree with your sentiment, but it's worse than that :-
[B]Line ending T5 lights have WORSE matchmaking than T6 lights[/B]
T50-2, VK2801 and Chaffee are dinosaurs of the old MM system. If they go up a tier and get Tier 6 MM they need to be nerfed to bring them in line with Chinese and French T6s. All will end up this way when WG get round to fixing them, and then the line will probably be stretched to Tier 10.
Really no point constantly proclaiming "Moved up a tier and NERFED !!! OMG OMG"[/QUOTE]
But they were already "balanced" as Tier 6s. They're line ending, so you get the tank and play it like that, not expecting an upgrade. You get that MM and you get the tools to deal with it. Now they're taking away the tools to do said dealing.
God downloading test is a pain in the ass
[QUOTE=MadCatMkII;39587155]But they were already "balanced" as Tier 6s. They're line ending, so you get the tank and play it like that, not expecting an upgrade. You get that MM and you get the tools to deal with it. Now they're taking away the tools to do said dealing.[/QUOTE]
They probably have the same match weight, but they never had the same MM. They have T6 to T12 battles, while T6 lights have T6 to T10 battles.
Will post link to the MM table again in a sec.
Edit :-
Here ya go
[URL]http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/2013/01/8...-mm-table.html[/URL]
Edit 2 :-
So, MadCat, you disagree that this is true ?
[QUOTE=Crumpet;39586976]historical accuracy[/QUOTE]
if they gave 2 fucks about historical accuracy on the 2801, it would have it's super engine.
So umm, anyone feeling like throwing the client's .torrent or a nice http download link in my general direction?
.exe programs tend not to run much on Android.
Jesus christ, British TD not OP at all, fuckin' blasting tanks in one shot all the time.
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