[QUOTE=Rollup;39587183]They probably have the same match weight, but they never had the same MM. They have T6 to T12 battles, while T6 lights have T6 to T10 battles.
Will post link to the MM table again in a sec.
Edit :-
Here ya go
[URL]http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/2013/01/8...-mm-table.html[/URL]
Edit 2 :-
So, MadCat, you disagree that this is true ?[/QUOTE]
We know about the MM weight, what I'm getting at is that it will STILL get those high-ish to high-tier battles quite often, and now we have a hell of a gimped tank to work with.
[QUOTE=MadCatMkII;39587294]We know about the MM weight, what I'm getting at is that it will STILL get those high-ish to high-tier battles quite often, and now we have a hell of a gimped tank to work with.[/QUOTE] And both of those will be nerfed/rebalanced in turn. The current Vk is much better than the T21 and 59-18. Thats what WG want to balance the T6 Vk against. T50-2 is being replaced, and the Chaffee will be dealt with in time too (though I never see them, probably because they're already gimped).
Apologies if your favourite tank has got nerfed, but that is just what it is. It's been an anomaly ever since they intorduced T6+ lights.
(I have all three in garage btw, so it's not like I don't lose too).
[QUOTE=Rollup;39587370]though I never see them, probably because they're already gimped.[/QUOTE]
....
(too busy laughing to respond)
[QUOTE=Rollup;39587370]And both of those will be nerfed/rebalanced in turn. The current Vk is much better than the T21 and 59-18. Thats what WG want to balance the T6 Vk against. T50-2 is being replaced, and the Chaffee will be dealt with in time too (though I never see them, [b]probably because they're already gimped)[/b].
Apologies if your favourite tank has got nerfed, but that is just what it is. It's been an anomaly ever since they intorduced T6+ lights.
(I have all three in garage btw, so it's not like I don't lose too).[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but I think you just invalidated your whole argument with that line. They're changing out the T-50-2 because historically it was at least 20km/h SLOWER than it is in this game. The Chaffee is just fine as it is. The 2801 currently has no real edge. Sure it's a 105, but it's still a 6.75 second reload with awful accuracy and VERY finicky HEAT and random at best HE. There is absolutely no reason to nerf it at all.
[editline]14th February 2013[/editline]
They don't necessarily need to change anything about the tank, they just need to fix HEAT which has been pretty OP across the entire game.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39587478]....
(too busy laughing to respond)[/QUOTE]
I seriously can't remember the time I last met up with a Chaffee, and I don't play mine because I don't particularly enjoy it. It's OK, nothing more these days, and there are other tanks that do the same job better. I realise there are fanboys of it, but I'm fairly sure the games played statistics will bear me out.
[editline]14th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MadCatMkII;39587482]I'm sorry but I think you just invalidated your whole argument with that line. [/QUOTE] You don't invalidate an opinion by including one subjective view about something else.
Christ the SU-100Y is way too agile.
gotta go fast
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kMwbPMv.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oUzvzKr.jpg[/IMG]
I take on Chaffee's at least every other match in my 2801
[QUOTE=Rollup;39587619]I seriously can't remember the time I last met up with a Chaffee, and I don't play mine because I don't particularly enjoy it. It's OK, nothing more these days, and there are other tanks that do the same job better. I realise there are fanboys of it, but I'm fairly sure the games played statistics will bear me out.
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[IMG]http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g442/0gopogo/Chaffee_zps7e1bf878.jpg[/IMG]
No, not really.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39587655]I take on Chaffee's at least every other match in my 2801[/QUOTE]
I doubt that's true. They're the least played T5 light and spread across 6 tiers.
[URL]http://www.vbaddict.net/wot.php?do=statistics&tier=5&tanktype=1&nation=0&premium=0&fieldname=won_lost_ratio&team=0&battles=100&groupby=0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rollup;39587703]I doubt that's true. They're the least played T5 light and spread across 6 tiers.
[URL]http://www.vbaddict.net/wot.php?do=statistics&tier=5&tanktype=1&nation=0&premium=0&fieldname=won_lost_ratio&team=0&battles=100&groupby=0[/URL][/QUOTE]
Because they're the least played doesn't mean there aren't any playing. They're not uncommon tanks.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39587675][IMG]http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g442/0gopogo/Chaffee_zps7e1bf878.jpg[/IMG]
No, not really.[/QUOTE]
I like how due to the way the OP rating works, the Crusader comes out second for tier 5 lights.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39587675][IMG]http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g442/0gopogo/Chaffee_zps7e1bf878.jpg[/IMG]
No, not really.[/QUOTE] Ok, lets say the Chaffee is GREAT. I said 'probably' because i really don't know how competitive they are because I very rarely see them. Not like everyone is saying they're OP, and it seems that they're balanced for their matchmaking. If they had the same MM as the ELC they would probaly be OP.
[editline]14th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39587720]Because they're the least played doesn't mean there aren't any playing. They're not uncommon tanks.[/QUOTE] Huh ? Isn't them being least played and being uncommon the same thing ?
Trying out 183 on test server.
Shot at an E-100 for 1600dmg
after battle stats.. [B]7 CRITS DONE[/B]
fucking HESH man
Fv183 is literally the most OP tank ever.
[QUOTE=Orkel;39587801]Trying out 183 on test server.
Shot at an E-100 for 1600dmg
after battle stats.. [B]7 CRITS DONE[/B]
fucking HESH man[/QUOTE]
Please just kill me now
[editline]14th February 2013[/editline]
If 8.4 rolls out unchanged I'm selling my E-100. Every past update from 7.5 onward has made it more and more irrelevant, and now WG pulls this shit. It's fucking ridiculous.
yeah if that TD stays in unchanged I'm selling my E-50 and retraining my crews for T3 tanks
I guess you guys are too busy arguing about the 2801 to look in your wot folders for the .torrent file and upload it somewhere for me :(
No british tankies for me I guess.
Hah, I bet they ruin the Fv and make it fucking pointless because they are shit at balance
Awesomecaek smacked a Batchat from 100% to 3% in 1 shot, probably killed half of his crew in the process. [I]And that was a low damage roll[/I]
[quote]Victory!
Battle: Highway 14. helmikuuta 2013 19:56:46
Vehicle: FV215b (183)
Experience received: 1*181
Credits received: 50*990
Battle Achievements: Top Gun, Sharpshooter, Reaper, Master Gunner, Mastery Badge: "1st Class"[/quote]
7941 dmg
2270 spotting
9 crits
to a batchat
with one hesh round
and oneshotted it from full HP
[QUOTE=Orkel;39588004]Awesomecaek smacked a Batchat from 100% to 3% in 1 shot, probably killed half of his crew in the process. [I]And that was a low damage roll[/I][/QUOTE]
Rated the tank dumb, not you
[hd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2cNhR5CotI[/hd]
As a side note, notice how the tracers have been changed a bit. They're much shorter and visible.
lol so glad i sold my IS-4 not long ago
what's the point playing any other Tier X than the 215b now anyway
[QUOTE=Calkkuna;39588047]7941 dmg
2270 spotting
9 crits
to a batchat
with one hesh round
and oneshotted it from full HP[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orkel;39588069]As a side note, notice how the tracers have been changed a bit. They're much shorter and visible.[/QUOTE]
....This is getting a bit stupid now.
I seriously doubt it's going to stay that good for long. It'll either be nerfed before it makes the actual server, or they'll nerf it into oblivion once everybody has already spent the gold to get it.
Right so ill never get to play test because the torrent restarted on 3gig
thanks you pos
[QUOTE=Why485;39588111]I seriously doubt it's going to stay that good for long. It'll either be nerfed before it makes the actual server, or they'll nerf it into oblivion once everybody has already spent the gold to get it.[/QUOTE]
Remember that the 4502's HESH got nerfed from 590dmg to 480 or so when it released on live. This one might aswell go from 1750 to 1500 or so
Wait no, its working but its throttled itsself back from 70 something% to 39
equally as shit
What is with wot player's obsession about calling other kids
You shoot me in the back because you can't aim, I roll my eyes, I'm a kid?
Broseph you're rocking a 43% winrate and smashing your face into the keyboard pls go
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