[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;39164839]Holy fuck, tell me your strategies.[/QUOTE]
Never, ever, EVER lead a charge, or go off by yourself. Flank when possible, and relocate if anyone with a big gun or high DPM is staring at you. Unless you're behind cover or at range, in which case abuse the hell out of your accuracy.
My dad is big into scale models, makes them pretty well too.
He does lots of articles for Model military international I think
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[QUOTE=Fyhlen;39170537]Never, ever, EVER lead a charge, or go off by yourself. Flank when possible, and relocate if anyone with a big gun or high DPM is staring at you. Unless you're behind cover or at range, in which case abuse the hell out of your accuracy.[/QUOTE]
You giving advice out now?
You make me so proud
[I]goddamn IE user[/I]
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[I]goddamn IE user[/I][/QUOTE]
I fully agree with this. Microsoft should stick to making operating systems and leave the... accessories to third party. Working with both IIS and IE is such a pain in the dick, a single god damn setAttribute fucked up my whole programming exam.
Oh wait we're talking about tanks here. Well err... [URL=http://worldwartwozone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14570-hetzers/page__view__findpost__p__242401]here[/URL] have some Hetzer
[QUOTE]I do not intend to repeat the already well known data of the Hetzer, but rather describe some of the improvements made during production, and point out some of the shortcomings of its interior layout as seen by a crew member. I should mention that I was trained on, and commanded Hetzers, and found out some of the facts described here the hard way.
The vehicle had several designations, originally called "Leichtes Sturmgeschütz 38(t)", then "Panzerjäger 38 für 7.5cm Pak 39 L/48" and finally "Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer". The first production vehicles of early 1944 had a rather narrow "Saukopf" mantlet, flattened on the sides, which did not provide adequate protection for the inner splash shield when the gun was traversed. It did not take long to find this out, and by mid-1944 an improved wider mantlet was in production which worked well, and was used to the end of the war.
During production the suspension components were simplified, the number of bolts on the roadwheels were reduced by half, and the perforations on the idler wheel were reduced from 12 holes to 6 holes, and finally to only 4 holes. The original horizontal mounting of the muffler was also changed to an almost vertical one, because it provided a trap for explosive charges thrown onto the engine compartment.
Personally, I do not consider the Hetzer to be one of the more advanced tank destroyers of WW2. It was an improvement over the self-propelled AT guns the Infantry Divisions had to rely on, but that's all. The gun itself was excellent, but its location in the vehicle was a major drawback. The main fault lies in the positioning of the crew members, forced by the off-center mounting of the armament, and was by far the worst of any of the numerous German vehicles of the limited traverse category. This type of vehicle depends on the closest cooperation between commander, gunner and driver to locate targets and aim the vehicle and gun at them. This teamwork was especially important in the Hetzer, with the smallest amount of traverse of any type in service, 16 degrees. It is disasterous to rip this team apart, but it was done here, and the commander was stuck in a box cut out from the engine compartment and separated from the rest of his crew by the gun in front of his belly. Due to his position so far back, a large area in front of the vehicle was outside his vision. Observation was very difficult and smoke from the gun directly in front of him made it worse.
I also want to point out his very limited provision of periscopes, as compared to other TD models, which didn't help matters either. Due to the limited traverse to the left of only 5 degrees, the driver was forced to position the vehicle at an angle, to give the gunner a chance to follow targets moving to the left, and this started to expose the thinner 20mm side armor, the weakest of any German tank destroyer. Any traverse to the right, which was 11 degrees, pushed the loader away from his main supply of ammunition underneath the gun and on the right wall opposite from him. The Pak 39 was designed for right side operation, but since the loader was seated to the left of the gun, he had to load over the solid deflector screen instead of the low-mounted bar on the right, designed for this purpose. All controls were mounted on the right side of the breech ring, operating lever, safety switch and extractor release, and he had to lean over the gunner and breech to reach them.
Opening the breechblock for the first round, unloading the gun, not to mention the removal of jammed cartridge cases, required almost acrobatic skills. His movements were somewhat restricted by the controls for the MG mount sticking down from the ceiling. The idea of the remote control MG was very good, but since it was drum-fed from 50-round drums, reloading had to be frequent, and this was something else!! The hatches could only be opened when the MG was turned sideways, and the loader's movements to attach a new drum (and much more to handle jammed cases), were restricted by the side shields of the mount. On the positive side this shield did provide a bit of cover for him. By the way, all 3 crew members on the left had to bail out through this hatch, the commander was privileged in this respect.
A hard look at a top view of this vehicle and some common sense will make all this clear. I am sorry if I disappoint some of our Hetzer fans, but it is one thing to look at a well-shaped vehicle on museum grounds or in photos, than it is to fight in one. The shortcomings of the Hetzer were of course recognized by German Ordnance, and already in 1944 plans were made for improved vehicles on the widened 38(d) chassis, as well as a study by Krupp of a vehicle with a rearmounted roomy fighting compartment and a 7.5cm L/70 gun as shown here. However, this improved version never got beyond the drawing board designation of No.Bz. 3471 Panzerjäger 38T mit 7.5cm L/70 (KwK42), and the close of WW2 put an end to its further development.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SGTenima123;39168711]The moderator said ''suffer like our grandfathers''. WOW. This is simply mind blowing.[/QUOTE]
Good thing not all WG employees are biased fuckheads.
[QUOTE=norzone;39170861]Good thing not all WG employees are biased fuckheads.[/QUOTE]
Yea that vice president dude looks like a competent dev:)
Do tabletop gaming tanks count for the model club?
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Its an oversized IS-3 (called the IS-48) with a lightning cannon and hull flamethrower :v:
Was just talking to a few of my friends on teamspeak and one of them built a Ratte [URL]http://imgur.com/a/h0QXw[/URL]
(still needs to be finished)
anyway, my WIP Marder II
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[QUOTE=Crumpet;39170508]kv2 it is[/QUOTE]
I seriously [b] do not[/b] reccomend that. It leads to the T150, then to the KV-3, then to the KV-4, then to the ST-1. None of those tanks are bad tanks, but the KV-4 does not get the BL-9, so unless you free XP it, you unlock the ST-1 and have to use the D25T in tier 9 and battles for 40,000 xp. I suggest you go to the KV1S and unlock the BL9 at the IS-3 before you attempt the IS-4 line.
time to play
[editline]10th January 2013[/editline]
world of tanks
[editline]10th January 2013[/editline]
also i suspected the kv2 may not be want i want to play so i kept the xp until i can properly decide
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Hheab.jpg?1[/IMG]
holy FUCK this tank is great
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39171870]I seriously [b] do not[/b] reccomend that. It leads to the T150, then to the KV-3, then to the KV-4, then to the ST-1. None of those tanks are bad tanks, but the KV-4 does not get the BL-9, so unless you free XP it, you unlock the ST-1 and have to use the D25T in tier 9 and battles for 40,000 xp. I suggest you go to the KV1S and unlock the BL9 at the IS-3 before you attempt the IS-4 line.[/QUOTE]
but the kv-2 segues into the arty line, not the is-4 line
[QUOTE=Bumgall;39172398][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Hheab.jpg?1[/IMG]
holy FUCK this tank is great[/QUOTE]
how much damage?
[QUOTE=Bumgall;39172398][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Hheab.jpg?1[/IMG]
holy FUCK this tank is great[/QUOTE]
I got a 66 win % with it after 145 battles.
Great tank.
time to stop playing world of tanks
new record
infact no i just played a game that convinced me to continue
but jesus i only got mastery 2 in the su122 from a 900xp game, either im really average or the ordinary person who plays this tank is god
[QUOTE=Crumpet;39172414]how much damage?[/QUOTE]
~3100
I'm pretty sure WoT is the only game that makes my 560's drivers crash consistently
regardless I think I'm going to go for a change of things and do a heavy tank line, starting with the british
[editline]10th January 2013[/editline]
here I am, T7 match in a 122-44 because I need the silver
Starts off well. I have three kills, we're winning.
Make it four, after obliterating an invisible Churchill I
Suddenly I notice something.
Myself and three others are the last alive, versus around 6-7 enemies.
Ultimately I managed to get five, almost six and then I die. Turns out I was the last tank alive.
It's always the good games I get matched up with the shitty teams. The funny part is, some guy on
our team before the round was saying something about how people who complain that the team lost them the game or had a bad team usually have under 50%. He then went on to say we're going to win because he's in a Cromwell in a T7 match.
I'm sorry Mr. Professional at WoT, but you didn't get any kills or damage assists. Congrats.
Something related to dynamic trains in wot:
In 1988, East Germany, during a night driving exercise, a T-64 somehow drove on the train rails and then the engine died out and didn't want to restart. As always, a train heading to Luckenwalde was going at full speed. The commander only had time to take the driver out of his hatch. The aftermath isn't really funny - 6 dead including train crew and 40 passengers hurt.
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[QUOTE=Crumpet;39169057]STILL cant decide between kv2 or kv1s
KV-1S [IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/IMG]
KV2 [IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
The KV-2 is fun because of the derp gun, but it's kind of limited when it comes to tech tree advancement since it leads to the artillery line and the T-150(Which from I've seen is nothing more than a bigger KV-1 and they're usually easy to kill). I think the KV-1s is more rewarding since it leads to the IS and then what is considered to be the best Tier 8 Heavy tank, the IS-3.
You can also research the KV-13 through the KV-1s which allows you to bypass the T-34s and get to the T-43 in the Soviet Medium Line which I heard is plenty of fun too. You can also research the IS through the KV-13.
Anyway, how well do the T-34s perform anyway?(Both the T-34/76 and the /85). Because you don't hear very much about them and I don't see very many of them in pubs.
So here's how it is:
Go for the KV-1s if you want to get into the Soviet Medium Line without having to grind the A-20 or T-34s or to get the IS-3, which is again considered to be the best Tier 8 heavy tank.
Go for the KV-2 if you want to have some fun with it's 152mm, need a good moneymaker, research the S-51 and became part of the scourge that is artillery, or get the T-150 which you could've have researched through the KV-1 although it would've been a far more painful grind.
[QUOTE=Azaz3l;39173421]Something related to dynamic trains in wot:
In 1988, East Germany, during a night driving exercise, a T-64 somehow drove on the train rails and then the engine died out and didn't want to restart. As always, a train heading to Luckenwalde was going at full speed. The commander only had time to take the driver out of his hatch. The aftermath isn't really funny - 6 dead including train crew and 40 passengers hurt.
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U_VsA2Y6aEk/UO7NAu3WFvI/AAAAAAAAEds/-vwoslqQK40/s640/forstzinna.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Always have wondered how some tanks withstand speeding trains hitting them.
This one, apparently, not so well.
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;39172409]but the kv-2 segues into the arty line, not the is-4 line[/QUOTE]
It also jumps to the other T6 heavy, the T-150, which then leads to the rest of the IS-4 line. Kind of like the 3002DB to the panther or Tiger.
I kinda wish I could put my E8's xp on my E2 now that that leads to the T29
and I have ~40,000 on my E8 :V
[quote]- an updater for the test client is not planned (according to SerB it's a waste of time)
- Serene coast is doing statistically fine
- SerB thinks that teamkilling penalties on testserver are handled independently from main account, but he isn't sure
- module crits and caused engine fires do not count towards teamkilling damage
- devs take info about the tanks from books and archive copies, SerB states that if he stacked the copies of the archive files on top of each other, the height would exceed 8 meters
- nations, which will have tanks (SS: not full trees, only tanks, maybe even one at a time from that respective nation) implemented into the game: "Finland, Poland, Argentina, New Zealand, Australia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Yugoslavia" (SS: WTF, no Czechoslovakia? Then again...)
- the rumors about some regular tanks being transferred to premium status (á la T34) are false
- the devs don't see the fact that Panzer B2 cant penetrate the Matilda as that much of a problem ("don't play with it")
- Question at SerB: "Are you the right hand of Viktor Kisliy?" (CEO) A: "Viktor has many right hands"
- ROF is a balance value, it won't be changed to historical values with some tanks (SS: players whining that IS should fire faster)
- the reason why the originally planned German medium branch got changed the way Storm presented it two weeks ago was "internal decision"
- the game will be developed within technical limits, high-end laptops should be able to run it on medium details at least (that is the hope of the devs)
- Leopard 2 is not planned as a tier 10 heavy (SS: yes, people actually ask that)
- 1-1,5 min waiting times when playing arty in the night won't get shorter before the number of arties actually drops[/quote]
[quote]- Leopard 2 is not planned as a tier 10 heavy [b](SS: yes, people actually ask that)[/b][/quote]
This does not surprise me in the slightest with some of the players out there.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;39173869] - Question at SerB: "Are you the right hand of Viktor Kisliy?" (CEO) A: "Viktor has many right hands"[/QUOTE]
Viktor confirmed for octopus
[QUOTE]SS: players whining that IS should fire faster[/QUOTE]
They should give it the historical RoF of 2 RPM, I'm sure these dumbfucks will love it.
[quote]- Serene coast is doing statistically fine [/quote]
what statistics could a map have?
[QUOTE=DaMastez;39173869]- nations, which will have tanks (SS: not full trees, only tanks, maybe even one at a time from that respective nation) implemented into the game: "Finland, Poland, Argentina, New Zealand, [B]Australia[/B], Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Yugoslavia" (SS: WTF, no Czechoslovakia? Then again...)[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_tank[/url]
The Australian Sentinel had a 2-pounder gun but later variants mounted a long barrel 25-pounder.
Holy shit that would rape.
[QUOTE=dill6869;39174076]what statistics could a map have?[/QUOTE]
Per a side win rate, frequency of draws, average match time.
[QUOTE=dill6869;39174076]what statistics could a map have?[/QUOTE]
Win rate on both sides.
Like on Swamp, one side had a whole lot more cover and flanking opportunities than the other which had nearly no arty-proof cover and only a tiny bush for the 3 704s on your team to hide in.
New Event coming:
[URL]http://worldoftanks.com/news/1924-heavy-destruction-weekend/[/URL]
[QUOTE]
Tankers!
They're big, they're heavy, they're by far some of the most feared vehicles to have turn the corner on your once 'secure' postion. This weekend we've put the emphasis on heavy tanks--one from each nation--and have included discounts and bonuses for all your crew needs.
Heavy Destruction Weekend is [B]starting 03:30 PST January 11, 2013 (11:30 UTC) and runs through 03:00 PST January 14, 2013 (11:00UTC)[/B].
[B]
[IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/icons/crew_xp_rate.png[/IMG] x2 Crew Experience Bonus[/B]
[B][IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/icons/barracks.png[/IMG] 50% Discount on Barracks for Your Crew[/B]
[B][IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/icons/crew_training.png[/IMG] 50% Discount on Training and Retraining Crew for Vehicle Specialization[/B]
[B][IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/icons/premium_tanks.png[/IMG] 50% Gold Discount:
[/B][URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/usa/t14/"]V [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/usa-t14.png[/IMG] T14[/URL][TABLE="width: 686"]
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[TD="bgcolor: transparent"][B][IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/icons/income_increase.png[/IMG] +60% Credit Income Bonus:[/B]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/usa/t29/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/usa-t29.png[/IMG] T29[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/uk/gb10_black_prince/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/uk-gb10_black_prince.png[/IMG] Black Prince[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/germany/pzvi_tiger_p/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/germany-pzvi_tiger_p.png[/IMG] PzKpfw VI Tiger (P)[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/france/amx_m4_1945/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/france-amx_m4_1945.png[/IMG] AMX M4(1945)[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/ussr/kv-3/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/ussr-kv-3.png[/IMG] KV-3[/URL][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: transparent"][B][IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/news/icons/credit_tanks.png[/IMG] 50% Credit Discount:[/B]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/usa/t29/"]VII[IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/usa-t29.png[/IMG] T29[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/uk/gb10_black_prince/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/uk-gb10_black_prince.png[/IMG] Black Prince[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/germany/pzvi_tiger_p/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/germany-pzvi_tiger_p.png[/IMG] PzKpfw VI Tiger (P)[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/france/amx_m4_1945/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/france-amx_m4_1945.png[/IMG] AMX M4(1945)[/URL]
[URL="http://worldoftanks.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/ussr/kv-3/"]VII [IMG]http://worldoftanks.com/static/3.8.1.3/encyclopedia/tankopedia/vehicle/contour/ussr-kv-3.png[/IMG] [U]KV-3[/U][/URL][/TD]
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