World of Tanks - Chinese Bootleg Edition - Games

[QUOTE=goon165;39182217]well look at it this way, with APCR in historical battles you'll be able to pen KTs frontally.[/QUOTE] If historical battles ever arrive. What is the last release or announcement estimate stated? Sometime this year or Done When It's Done™?

[QUOTE=O'Neil;39182298]Thought the issue was the high center of gravity which the sherman always has and the Pershing turret pushing that further.[/QUOTE] The center of gravity would be an issue, but the Pershing's turret is also a whole lot heavier than the regular Sherman turret, the Jumbo's armor already took the VVSS to its limits. The longer gun would also be an issue that would require a heavy counterweight behind the turret. Honestly, I don't quite see why the tank even happened. If I remember right it was assembled in 1944-1945, the M36 was already in use by then with exactly the same gun but it could actually move and stuff.

[QUOTE=Calkkuna;39182175]I found the pershing really really really mediocre. It's a tank that doesn't know its role. It's not agile enough for a medium, not armored enough for a heavy, and the gun seems really lacking.[/QUOTE] It's more than agile enough for a medium and its armor is actually strong for a medium and since when did people start expecting mediums to have heavy level armor? and did you forget about gun depression, movement accuracy and view range?

[QUOTE=ze beaver;39182355]The center of gravity would be an issue, but the Pershing's turret is also a whole lot heavier than the regular Sherman turret, the Jumbo's armor already took the VVSS to its limits. The longer gun would also be an issue that would require a heavy counterweight behind the turret. Honestly, I don't quite see why the tank even happened. If I remember right it was assembled in 1944-1945, the M36 was already in use by then with exactly the same gun but it could actually move and stuff.[/QUOTE] M36b could move just as well as I recall, they should've just went and developed the M36 turret further.

Ah, the weekend is here. Teams just suddenly went to shit. One point I was flanking the rear of a T32 in my comet, behind him, off to one side...team mate somehow shoots me despite me being BEHIND him and he was shooting from the front. Superb. Previous game before that, i was bottom tier, my team managed 2 kills before being all wiped out. I got the most xp in the lowest tier tank. Bleh.

hun they were already shit

[QUOTE=Kilgore 2nd;39182685]Ah, the weekend is here. Teams just suddenly went to shit. One point I was flanking the rear of a T32 in my comet, behind him, off to one side...team mate somehow shoots me despite me being BEHIND him and he was shooting from the front. Superb. Previous game before that, i was bottom tier, my team managed 2 kills before being all wiped out. I got the most xp in the lowest tier tank. Bleh.[/QUOTE] reminds me of yesterday. there were two enemies next to eachother, a KT and a tiger. I drive between them in my centurion to get on the KT's ass, and the tiger tries to snap-shoot me while rotating his turret but hits the KT instead

[QUOTE=Saza;39182853]hun they were already shit[/QUOTE] Well more shit then they normally are which sadly such a thing is possible. [editline]11th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Orkel;39182859]reminds me of yesterday. there were two enemies next to eachother, a KT and a tiger. I drive between them in my centurion to get on the KT's ass, and the tiger tries to snap-shoot me while rotating his turret but hits the KT instead[/QUOTE] I love stuff like this. Got a lucky medal the other day in my t-50-2 because someone thought it'd be a good idea to shoot the arty I was hiding behind

[QUOTE=Orkel;39182859]reminds me of yesterday. there were two enemies next to eachother, a KT and a tiger. I drive between them in my centurion to get on the KT's ass, and the tiger tries to snap-shoot me while rotating his turret but hits the KT instead[/QUOTE] this happens regularly to me except I'm the KT watching enemy arty teamkill because they tried to steal the kill is always fucking golden too

Well, still getting worse. This time my team all bunched up around the valley on Cliff instead of supporting mid/lighthouse like we asked them. Of course we were overrun. Me being in a comet, there was little I could do vs 6 or so tier 8 tanks, even with the help of a super P and a T34. Every other team member were bunched around the valley entrance. Our team managed 1 kill....*sigh* I just want my centurion damnit

[QUOTE=Kilgore 2nd;39183141]Well, still getting worse. This time my team all bunched up around the valley on Cliff instead of supporting mid/lighthouse like we asked them. Of course we were overrun. Me being in a comet, there was little I could do vs 6 or so tier 8 tanks, even with the help of a super P and a T34. Every other team member were bunched around the valley entrance. Our team managed 1 kill....*sigh* I just want my centurion damnit[/QUOTE] I keep wondering why people even attempt to go to valley. You get fire from 2 sides once you lose mid and if you push thro valley the enemy can still shoot at their flag from mid.

played two games yesterday where the entire allied grouping going up the Castle on that one city map got decimated in one of them, fellow battlebrother lekkism was oneshotted by Arty while I swiftly reversed as fast as I could and proceeded to duel a Tiger in the other, we both escaped the Castle, but we couldn't escape the shit team losing

[QUOTE=zenith777;39183382]I keep wondering why people even attempt to go to valley. You get fire from 2 sides once you lose mid and if you push thro valley the enemy can still shoot at their flag from mid.[/QUOTE] Not sure either. Was even more painful to see 5 or 6 tanks all crowded around one of the corners, not even spaced out. Usually it requires only 1 or 2 tanks and a TD to keep the enemy at bay while the rest of your team flanks mid and lighthouse to clear that shit out.

[QUOTE=O'Neil;39179808]Its not based on the E2 chassis, its based off the M4A3 one. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/M4A1_to_M4A3_tank_animation.gif[/img] A gif showing the difference between appearances. Looks like a jumbo but really isnt. [/QUOTE] M4A3[B]E2[/B] ie sherman jumbo

[QUOTE=don818;39183887]M4A3[B]E2[/B] ie sherman jumbo[/QUOTE] What are you getting at? I really don't see it. I mean it's not that complicated, there's the good ol' M4A3 which is a Sherman with a welded hull, Ford V8 and VVSS suspension. Then there's the M4A3E8 which is a M4A3 with a HVSS suspension. There's also the M4A3E2 which is a regular M4A3 (with VVSS) with much thicker armor and a different turret. The Sherman with a Pershing turret is quite obviously a regular M4A3 hull with a T26 turret, it's not a Jumbo at all which is what he's saying.

Beeeeh, tempted to use what gold I have left to free xp the last 20k xp for the centurion. Keep getting put vs a lot of tier 8s and 9s and my team are just fucking useless so it's just me in my tier 7 comet vs 6 or more tier 8s and 9s..impossible

[QUOTE=ze beaver;39183976]What are you getting at? I really don't see it. I mean it's not that complicated, there's the good ol' M4A3 which is a Sherman with a welded hull, Ford V8 and VVSS suspension. Then there's the M4A3E8 which is a M4A3 with a HVSS suspension. There's also the M4A3E2 which is a regular M4A3 (with VVSS) with much thicker armor and a different turret. The Sherman with a Pershing turret is quite obviously a regular M4A3 hull with a T26 turret, it's not a Jumbo at all which is what he's saying.[/QUOTE] What he was implying, or at least what I thought he was, was that the E2 had it's own chassis. I know the E2 is pretty much just a new turret, and gun assembly thrown on with a few extra sheets of steel. [editline]11th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kilgore 2nd;39184123]Beeeeh, tempted to use what gold I have left to free xp the last 20k xp for the centurion. Keep getting put vs a lot of tier 8s and 9s and my team are just fucking useless so it's just me in my tier 7 comet vs 6 or more tier 8s and 9s..impossible[/QUOTE] do it

[QUOTE=don818;39184127]What he was implying, or at least what I thought he was, was that the E2 had it's own chassis. I know the E2 is pretty much just a new turret, and gun assembly thrown on with a few extra sheets of steel. [editline]11th January 2013[/editline] do it[/QUOTE] Tempting but then I think I'd like to have some free xp to use on the centurion so I'm not just a glorified comet that may get stuck in tier 10 games Argh, decisions! Someone give me like 20k gold. I have 600k free experience just sat around doing nothing! :(

What equipment should I grab for my 13-90? already got vents and GLD on there, should I grab a torsion bar? maybe spall liner?

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39184290]What equipment should I grab for my 13-90? already got vents and GLD on there, should I grab a torsion bar? maybe spall liner?[/QUOTE] binocs [editline]11th January 2013[/editline] spall liners are useless unless you have insane armor (e-100, maus etc)

C'mon, why 4 out of 5 times US special is much better than EU [QUOTE=US special] Tankers! They're big, they're heavy, they're by far some of the most feared vehicles to have turn the corner on your once 'secure' postion. This weekend we've put the emphasis on heavy tanks--one from each nation--and have included discounts and bonuses for all your crew needs. Heavy Destruction Weekend is starting 03:30 PST January 11, 2013 (11:30 UTC) and runs through 03:00 PST January 14, 2013 (11:00UTC). x2 Crew Experience Bonus 50% Discount on Barracks for Your Crew 50% Gold Discount on Training and Retraining Crew for Vehicle Specialization 50% Gold Discount: V T14 +60% Credit Income Bonus: VII T29 VII Black Prince VII PzKpfw VI Tiger VII AMX M4(1945) VII KV-3 50% Credit Discount: VII T29 VII Black Prince VII PzKpfw VI Tiger VII AMX M4(1945) VII KV-3 [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=EU special]Commanders, It is time to start the light tank frenzy! During this weekend, from 07:00 CET (06:00 GMT) on the 12th January, until 06:30 CET (05:30 GMT) on the 15th January, everyone will have the following bonuses: Medal Hunt: Scout Any and all players who will be awarded the Scout achievement will automatically be rewarded with 5000 bonus credits! To get the scout achievement, you need to detect more enemy tanks and self-propelled guns than anyone else on your team (at least 9). 50% discount on the following light tanks: A-20(Soviet Tier IV) PzKpfw 38 nA (German Tier IV) M5 Stuart (American Tier IV) A13 Covenanter (British Tier IV) ELC AMX (French Tier V) Make room in your garage for these swift beasts! Who doesn’t enjoy zooming around on the battlefield and avoiding enemy shells like the heroes in action movies? 70% increased profits on the following Tier V SPGs: Hummel (German) SU-8 (Soviet) M41 (American) AMX-13 F3 AM (French) The light tanks will be an even bigger pain for SPG commanders during this special. That is why we have decided to give the natural prey of light tanks a small incentive to also roll out and play! Crush the enemy and cash in the prize! 50% discount on the 105 leFH18B2, Tier IV French premium SPG. You may also like to pick up our offer on this great premium SPG! Don’t let the light tanks discourage you, this is the right moment to buy this vehicle! 50% discount on skill reset for crew members for gold, as well as credits. Maybe it’s time to move the good old low-tier crew onto a bigger mount and change the skillset? The bigger steel beasts also need experienced riders and the best skill combination is not the same for all tanks out there! This weekend will be truly amazing for light tank fans, as well as SPG players. Don’t forget to reset the skills of your crews to make them even more efficient in battle. Good luck hunting for the medal, and have a great weekend, commanders! [/QUOTE] Extra arty and suicide scouts...

Almost double profits from SPGs, why would they do this -_- Well my commander, gunner and driver all just got raped by arty. So I found them and fucked them up for a pascucci's medal. Satisfying.

[QUOTE]50% discount on the following light tanks: A-20(Soviet Tier IV) [B]PzKpfw 38 nA (German Tier IV) [/B]M5 Stuart (American Tier IV) A13 Covenanter (British Tier IV) ELC AMX (French Tier V) [B]Make room in your garage for these swift beasts! Who doesn’t enjoy zooming around on the battlefield and avoiding enemy shells like the heroes in action movies?[/B][/QUOTE] what

My brother, who I dragged into WOT a year ago, plays with me most of the time when he plays. If I were to guess I'd say half his games are with me. I have ~14k battles, he's close to 6K Yesterday I congratulated him (somewhat sarcastically) on improving his win rate to 47% His reply: "I don't give a fuck about that stat. I have no control over the shit players I get teamed with." This sparked a long conversation about statistics, math, the number of girlfriends he's had and why they all ended up telling him to fuck off, ECT. The bottom line was the constant variable in all things was him. Thus, his win rate is a reflection of his actions in game. Not the players he is teamed with. He pondered this, then this convo happened: My Bro: "But you're only 48%" Me: "Yes, but I don't blame you for that. Well not entirely." My Bro: "What does that mean?" Me: "Well about 20% of my matches have YOU as a common factor." My Bro: "But my win rate just got better." Me: "Because about 50% of your matches have ME as a common factor." My Bro: *Long Pause* Oh.

Anyone up for the medium companies?

Alrite. Think I'm done for the night. The only tier 7 in a fucking tier 9 game. I had a t-44 drive into the back of my tank because he's a moron. Then later the same guy shoots me and calls me a camper because I don't want to drive around the corner at an E75 and T34 etc. My whole team also dies and only manage a few kills. I can't take anymore tonight. So many fucking idiots.

oh boy, like 70k until the IS its my first big grind, and its not even that big [editline]11th January 2013[/editline] Should I get the 17k xp D2-5-T 122mm and THEN grind to the IS or the last 85mm (D-5T) and go straight to the IS?

[QUOTE=Kilgore 2nd;39184212]Tempting but then I think I'd like to have some free xp to use on the centurion so I'm not just a glorified comet that may get stuck in tier 10 games Argh, decisions! Someone give me like 20k gold. I have 600k free experience just sat around doing nothing! :([/QUOTE] Go to the fucking test server and try.

[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;39185629]Go to the fucking test server and try.[/QUOTE] How will that help?

[QUOTE=Crumpet;39185570]oh boy, like 70k until the IS its my first big grind, and its not even that big [editline]11th January 2013[/editline] Should I get the 17k xp D2-5-T 122mm and THEN grind to the IS or the last 85mm (D-5T) and go straight to the IS?[/QUOTE] ignore the 100mm and 85mm, the 122's are the only thing that matters. Unless you plan on going down the medium line later, then it might be worth it in the long run to get the D10T or the 85.