Katawa Shoujo v2 - "Why can't I hold all these feels?" - Games

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[img]http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396683_323149677728731_100001011045091_945348_1538683778_n.jpg[/img] One of the first lines of dialogue, with a very temp background

needs more tits [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] and punctuation

Considering the reception of Katawa Shoujo, I'm not surprised to see people already pushing for and beginning to draft ideas for a sort of sequel, carrying on from the story(ies) of Katawa Shoujo or not. I hope with all my heart that the quality of the script is on par, though. That's what drew me in to the characters. Edit: I still can't get over how weird it is, having seen the discussions around 4chan years ago. There were so many times when I thought that the development would just halt permanently, and yet here we are. 2nd Edit: Still feeling a little sad, regardless of the fact that all that actually came out of KS for me were good endings and decisions (I really can't figure out why I'm feeling sad,) I'm starting to think about finally going through Kana:LS. I remember I bought it practically two years ago, and kept putting it off because I'm somewhat "scared" of it, my sister passed away due to kidney complications in 2008, and I'm still nowhere close to being over it.

[QUOTE=geogzm;34544364]needs more tits [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] and punctuation[/QUOTE] Like i said, it's a really rough start, mostly to get used to the engine while i sort out a non shitty plot in my head. Edit: if anyone has any ideas they'd like to contribute, or if anyone would like to help in general feel free to ask. Right now i'm working on names for the characters i.e daughters and or sons of hisao and any one of the heroines Edit 2: So far i got the idea of Emily for Emi's daughter.

Dicking around with renpy, how do I make slow text? I can't find the text tag for it online. [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=luckycandy;34544608]Like i said, it's a really rough start, mostly to get used to the engine while i sort out a non shitty plot in my head. Edit: if anyone has any ideas they'd like to contribute, or if anyone would like to help in general feel free to ask. Right now i'm working on names for the characters i.e daughters and or sons of hisao and any one of the heroines Edit 2: So far i got the idea of Emily for Emi's daughter.[/QUOTE] Have a character who claims his dad sent him to school with a ton of materials to build a fallout shelter. You may or may not have thought of this already, but using bubbl.us might be a good idea too, for tracking different paths and points and noting key events down in brief. [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] I'm planning a small VN based off of a (shitty) experience I had in 2010 with a girl, and what would've happened if I made different choices (I'd probably be a much happier person right now if I did). Here's the bubblus: [img]http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/2/3404373371-orig.png[/img]

holy shit, that's small? that's a huge flow chart. then again the one for katawa was actually smaller hmmm, i do like the idea... perhaps that could be rins son figured out his name, Seireki Tsunen it roughly translates to y2k

[QUOTE=luckycandy;34544992]holy shit, that's small? that's a huge flow chart. then again the one for katawa was actually smaller hmmm, i do like the idea... perhaps that could be rins son[/QUOTE] I was leaning towards kenji :v: That flow chart is clearly zoomed out (9% zoom) but it contains not just choices, but brief descriptions of chunks of the story. It's messy, but I know my way around it. Each choice is marked out as a choice and if it gives any points, it's written down on the choice. There are also little note boxes dotted around.

I figured you were leaning towards kenji :/ that's why i made his name translate roughly to Y2k, i figured it would be a humorous easter egg. Edit: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_University[/url] University that Yamaku is based off of

Still can't figure out slow text with renpy. Here's my script so far: [quote] g "2010. Summer." g "Gentle golden light shines through the window. My head pulsates with that unique morning feeling. I feel relaxed until I realise what my schedule for today is." g "I'm supposed to be meeting Adrian, my old friend from Blandford. It's been a while." g "He told me he wants me to meet two of his friends. It's the sort of thing I'd be afraid of, but just two friends can't hurt. It's not as if he's throwing me in to a circle of five or more friends." g "It's been a while since I even bothered with social encounters. I've stuck with a small handful of friends recently, but I guess meeting some more is innocent enough. The others won't mind." g "I'd better walk to the bus stop before I'm late." scene bus_stop with dissolve g "The british summer. On a sunny day, it's great outside. It's refreshing, too." g "I'm supposed to be there by 11am. It's 9am now, so I guess I'm set. May even be early if I'm lucky." g "I can feel the air breezing up and in to my nose. A faint smell of petrol seems to be coming in, too. I wonder if all the toxicity in an urban environment is ever going to have any real effect on my health." [/quote] Would I have to put {slow} or something before every single line?

I now know where to go to college

[QUOTE=luckycandy;34545221]I figured you were leaning towards kenji :/ that's why i made his name translate roughly to Y2k, i figured it would be a humorous easter egg. Edit: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_University[/url] University that Yamaku is based off of[/QUOTE]In Emi's arc you go to Brown Eye University.

geogzm maybe you should capitalize British Just nitpicking. Looks good so far though

Anybody got a brief bus-pulling-up-to-the-bus-stop sound effect? Also, anybody know how to use slow text?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qDM9i.png[/IMG] This game certainly changed my life. After wasting about 18 hours of my sickdays in it, I can safely say that this game is only one thing, and that's really bad writing. While there have been individual pieces that were actually quite great writing, the majority is just awful. While things like dodging the "proudest part of my body" is somewhat understandable (for an edgy dating blabla), the mentally deteriorated protagonist and his sometimes just painful thoughts ruin most of the experience. (O HEY SHE LOST SOMETHING IN THAT CARCRASH AND HER DADDY IS AWAY LETS VISIT HIM O HEY IM SURE SHE WAS DRIVING TOO AND STUFF YEAH SURE NOTHING CONNECTS HERE WHAT THE FUCK IS LOGIC IM JUST A SCIENTIST LOL) The atempt at conveying a "disabled people are totally cool to hang out with and love and stuff look past their disabilites blabla" in itself isn't wrong, but the constant repetition in often completely out of context situations doesn't really give the game a convenient side message, but rather just annoy. Considering that disabilities are kind of mentioned all the time, there isn't much of it spent on actually going into more detail about them and how they influence the lifes, rather how they totally don't do anyhting but a little tiny bit. The dating is pretty horrible, because all characters pretty much just jump from differnet states from one moment to the next, seeming almost as bipolar as Yuuko. The sex scenes, while I'd agree with the author that they should be there, aren't really very fitting as they are and seem to be pasted in at often very weird points into the relationships. Why they never mentioned that Emi's pussy tastes like strawberries is absolutely beyond me. While Kenji and Rin add a somewhat (good) comedic aspect to the game, it feels horribly out of place most, if not all of the time. They also never mentioned Hanako's singing again later on, which considering it is a pretty big chunk of the little things that are revealed about the later-rape-victim seems like a huge letdown. But hey, Hisao obviously is a genius, handsome, understanding and great lover, so what crippled women wouldn't want that hot shot with his "disability" - Great message here as well! However, to mention a few thinks that were positive in some way or another, I liked the fact that all the arcs differed to some extend, as wellas the characters being unique (in the game world). So yeah, should I ever feel the need to read about a guy reading with a sheepish look on his face in a gingerly manner, this game would certainly be my first choice. For (more than 5 %) quality writing and constant drawing (seriously, how many artists unable to draw the same character did they use in this?), I'll have to go somewhere else. Please go find your Wai-fus and Wi-fes somewhere else, where the writer at least bothered to be somewhat consistent and actually put some life in their characters, disabled (or defaced) or not. As much as I don't care about disabilities and think it's great that someone tried to show off that there are great personalities (with social-trouble for almsot all of them tho, in this game) found, I'm afraid they didn't do a too great job with those personalities. But hey, maybe they didn't even want to do that, heck if I know. Whoever wrote the good parts should go solo and make an actual good thing like this, I guess. My highlight definately was when I got kicked out of the house with a huge smile with mocking eyes, I mean seriously, they had proper stills, and used them before, what's up with that? Elbows too missing, would not fuck 0/10

[QUOTE=SEKCobra;34545733]rant[/QUOTE] I read that whole thing, and you bring up a lot of interesting (sometimes misguided) points. I personally think the game's writing is good, because it takes something that's completely ridiculous to a lot of people (an entire school full of people with disabilities and lots of pretty, disabled girls to go along with it) and tries its hardest to turn that into normality. But somehow, after reading that huge clusterfuck paragraph, all I can think is: [quote]They also never mentioned Hanako's singing again later on, which considering it is a pretty big chunk of the little things that are revealed about the later-rape-victim seems like a huge letdown.[/quote] oh god, here we go again.

[QUOTE=Doomish;34545862]I read that whole thing, and you bring up a lot of interesting (sometimes misguided) points. I personally think the game's writing is good, because it takes something that's completely ridiculous to a lot of people (an entire school full of people with disabilities and lots of pretty, disabled girls to go along with it) and [B]tries its hardest to turn that into normality.[/B] But somehow, after reading that huge clusterfuck paragraph, all I can think is: oh god, here we go again.[/QUOTE] And it fails horribly at that. While the quality of writing is to soem extent taste, it does not relate to the message that's suppsoed to be conveyd, it merely is a way of doing so. And I strongly believe that the majority of the writing in this game is absolutely horrible, and I am convinced that my judgement on that is as objective as can be.

The thing is, Katawa Shoujo unfortunately falls victim to the same thing as a lot of semi-popular stuff like it. You either like it or you don't, and whether you take something from it or not is ENTIRELY opinion-based. Things that are entirely your-mileage-may-vary are really hard to judge properly, and I've come to understand that. I've seen a whole spectrum of reactions to KS, from overjoyed at its existence, to depressed, to morally corrected, to outright hating the game because of the subject matter. At its core, KS is a book, and it may just not be the right book for you. I really do believe the game has good writing and I guess you don't, there's not much I can do about that! All I can do is be neutral and say I enjoyed it a whole lot and accept that some people won't enjoy it a whole lot, and that's okay.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/Xltbl.png[/img] Why am I nakedly talking about pizza with an anti-feminist again?

He actually brings up a lot of good points. The relationship gap thing was very notorious with Lilly's and hanako's first sex scene. A bit with Emi's too. I found the "disability isn't necessarily bad" thing not imposed because of the writing but because it was impossible to avoid. Not because the writers focused on it, but because they couldn't avoid it. Rin's jokes, I didn't find out of place. Kenji's I did, in the last parts. And I do think they missed out on an opportunity with hanako's singing.

[img]http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/2/3406221068-orig.jpg[/img] At this point I start to realise I need to actually pick up my tablet and draw stuff. [b]fucking aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa[/b] I'm no artist D: [editline]4th February 2012[/editline] Anyone know how I can learn to draw that kinda thing?

Usually a piece of paper is a good place to start

Also if you take real life pictures apply a photoshop filter on it like a lazy fuck that's what they did in KS

[img]http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/2/3406354940-orig.jpg[/img] ~~professional artiste~

[img]http://i.imgur.com/sUQUa.png[/img] Where do I even begin with this guy.

[QUOTE=Sifflix;34546842][img]http://i.imgur.com/sUQUa.png[/img] Where do I even begin with this guy.[/QUOTE] There's a sidequest where you, Roach and MacTavish go clean off the snipers targeting Kenji's window in the DLC "Katawarfare 3"

Welp, so far i have rin's daughter's personality somewhat written down in my idea booklet, hanako's daughter as well. I also decided to drop the idea of having the choice of playing ether a male or female protagonist for now. That way i can focus on improving the back story of 5/6 heroines, Then later i'll consider adding the option to choose your gender. If the desire is large enough. Addendum:I also have written a problem scenerio that basicly involves saving yamaku high from closing due to low attendence, the latter being because of modern solutions to physical disabilitys.

[QUOTE=luckycandy;34546913]Welp, so far i have rin's daughter's personality somewhat written down in my idea booklet, hanako's daughter as well. I also decided to drop the idea of having the choice of playing ether a male or female protagonist for now. That way i can focus on improving the back story of 5/6 heroines, Then later i'll consider adding the option to choose your gender. If the desire is large enough. Addendum:I also have written a problem scenerio that basicly involves saving yamaku high from closing due to low attendence, the latter being because of modern solutions to physical disabilitys.[/QUOTE] Oh shit you're actually making this happen. I thought you'd try it out and then be like "aw whatever" but so far you're trying. Glad to see you're into it!

[QUOTE='[Green];34546989']Oh shit you're actually making this happen. I thought you'd try it out and then be like "aw whatever" but so far you're trying. Glad to see you're into it![/QUOTE] I think the game just jarred something in me, that made me realize that if i'm going to make video games for a living ( which has been my decided career for a long time) i might as well start making good games while i'm still young

For the last week I've been playing Emi's route again (mostly out of boredom), this time with different choices, but still getting the good end. I almost forgot how that feels, and it sure is good.