Half-Life & Portal series, general discussion (v3) - Games

[QUOTE=DevinWatson;39634785]I don't believe it entirely, concept artwork was actively being created between 2008-2012. That's a heck of a lot of time to just throw away.[/QUOTE] Sure, it was a lot of work. But as evidenced by HL2, Valve will create a lot of work for material that doesn't ship (certain chapters, enemies, etc.) Gabe also directly said Stars of Blood was cancelled, so I'm not sure how much more evidence you'd need.

[QUOTE=Marlamin;39634651]The leaks themselves are new, the information contained in them is not neccesarily new/relevant. ValveLeakware is a startup forum by testinglol etc., they're pretty cool I guess since they atleast didn't go OMG EXCLUSIVE *watermarks everything* like ValveTime would have. :v:[/QUOTE] No screenshots (one was added after I said something), no file names, no preview of script code, and I had to register to download two simple script files. I would argue that that is pretty poor service. Yeah watermarking sucks, but at least ValveTime gives out their sources and provides previews and doesn't force you to register.

[QUOTE=Fine Hats;39635896][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Iron_Man_128.jpg/250px-Iron_Man_128.jpg[/IMG] But with glasses.[/QUOTE] You posted the wrong one. [img]http://milnersblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/im128.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=smashitup;39636329]No screenshots (one was added after I said something), no file names, no preview of script code, and I had to register to download two simple script files. I would argue that that is pretty poor service. Yeah watermarking sucks, but at least ValveTime gives out their sources and provides previews and doesn't force you to register.[/QUOTE] They already fixed the registration issue.

I personally think that the fgds could be real, but extremely outdated. If source 2 is in development, I think HL3 would be on that platform, and the way it's written, you could throw it into HL2 as long as you had the entities in there. There is nothing reference any groundbreaking technology source 2 may have.

5 years old fgd file gets leaked so what? Nothing to see here.

The fact that it's called ep3.fgd kinda proves it's old. The next Half Life will be Half Life 3, not Episode 3.

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39639508]The fact that it's called ep3.fgd kinda proves it's old. The next Half Life will be Half Life 3, not Episode 3.[/QUOTE] Source?

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39639508]The fact that it's called ep3.fgd kinda proves it's old. The next Half Life will be Half Life 3, not Episode 3.[/QUOTE] That doesn't really prove anything; a change of the release title won't necessarily result in a change of the filenames used internally, given that often a project-wide overhaul of filenames is unfeasible

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39639508]The fact that it's called ep3.fgd kinda proves it's old. The next Half Life will be Half Life 3, not Episode 3.[/QUOTE] Oh shit, not [I]this[/I] again.

What if they called it: Half-Life (Episode) 3?

seems pretty clear to me that the whole blob thing is the hydra

Why didn't they ever put Hydra into HL2?

Half life 2 sucks donkey balls on a stick wrapped around french pudding and biebers ball sacks with my herpes and diarrea from my ass all over the maps and morgan freeman sucks my vagina and dick and asshole and corn syrup while jacking off to gay hentai [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply / Trolling" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=tempunary;39640032]Why didn't they ever put Hydra into HL2?[/QUOTE] Unfun to play against, couldn't come up with a good gameplay mechanic to match the concept

[QUOTE=TectoImprov;39639725]What if they called it: Half-Life (Episode) 3?[/QUOTE] Half-Life 3: [I]Episode[/I]

[QUOTE=tempunary;39640032]Why didn't they ever put Hydra into HL2?[/QUOTE] It sucked.

I think it would be cool if there was a creature that behaved differently from the hydra but had a very similar aesthetic.

Stop with the name debate. The game name is Gordon Freeman: The Next Adventure.

[QUOTE=tempunary;39640032]Why didn't they ever put Hydra into HL2?[/QUOTE] Because it was frustrating and unexciting to fight.

[QUOTE=ojcoolj;39639616]Source?[/QUOTE] Gabe stated long ago that the episodic games were an experiment for the series. They were specifically meant so that a release would appear a lot more frequent. Tell me, do you see episodes on TV, that stop for 6 years, and then just start again? Would make no sense for them to call it episode 3 to be honest. My bet is that they developed all new content from guns-npcs-scenery, etc. The only way i'd accept an "Episode 3" slapped at the end of the title, would be if it was literally how HL2 Ep2 ended, with the same exact weapons and not much changes with the characters visually, on source 1, etc. Which would be very unfortunate. It's common sense really, HL2 was great for it's time. There is no way they are gonna make next-gen content, new weapons, use a new engine, and slap Episode 3 at the end, it makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39641156]Gabe stated long ago that the episodic games were an experiment for the series. They were specifically meant so that a release would appear a lot more frequent. Tell me, do you see episodes on TV, that stop for 6 years, and then just start again? Would make no sense for them to call it episode 3 to be honest. My bet is that they developed all new content from guns-npcs-scenery, etc. The only way i'd accept an "Episode 3" slapped at the end of the title, would be if it was literally how HL2 Ep2 ended, with the same exact weapons and not much changes with the characters visually, on source 1, etc. Which would be very unfortunate. It's common sense really, HL2 was great for it's time. There is no way they are gonna make next-gen content, new weapons, use a new engine, and slap Episode 3 at the end, it makes no sense.[/QUOTE] At the end of the day it doesn't matter, and arguing evidence and assumption is pointless; whatever it's called will be inconsequential to what Valve produces

[QUOTE=Maloof?;39641209]At the end of the day it doesn't matter, and arguing evidence and assumption is pointless; whatever it's called will be inconsequential to what Valve produces[/QUOTE] I know, I'll be surprised if it is called Episode 3, but hell I don't care, as long as one gets out here. I'm not trying to cause any arguments, so I apologize if it seems that way.

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39641156]Gabe stated long ago that the episodic games were an experiment for the series. They were specifically meant so that a release would appear a lot more frequent. Tell me, do you see episodes on TV, that stop for 6 years, and then just start again? Would make no sense for them to call it episode 3 to be honest. My bet is that they developed all new content from guns-npcs-scenery, etc. The only way i'd accept an "Episode 3" slapped at the end of the title, would be if it was literally how HL2 Ep2 ended, with the same exact weapons and not much changes with the characters visually, on source 1, etc. Which would be very unfortunate. It's common sense really, HL2 was great for it's time. There is no way they are gonna make next-gen content, new weapons, use a new engine, and slap Episode 3 at the end, it makes no sense.[/QUOTE] But the story arc! They aren't going to abandon the Half-Life 2 story arc and go straight to Half-Life 3, they're instead going to finish this story arc and have a new one in Half-Life 3.

Yeah I know, that's why I get really confused. The only way we'll know for sure is to wait and see. There is a million things they could do after the scene in the helicopter bay.

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39641254]I know, I'll be surprised if it is called Episode 3, but hell I don't care, as long as one gets out here. I'm not trying to cause any arguments, so I apologize if it seems that way.[/QUOTE] Oh no it's okay, don't apologise! My comment was directed at the world in general, not you Just a teaser would be great from Valve. If they released a single bit of artwork and said bluntly that it's still a long way off, I'd be happy. It's this silence and subtle references ('Hohoho yes we are working on Ricochet 2!') that's getting a bit annoying

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39641295]Yeah I know, that's why I get really confused. The only way we'll know for sure is to wait and see. There is a million things they could do after the scene in the helicopter bay.[/QUOTE] Episode 3: The helicopter bay collapses from the damage the advisors inflicted and they all die. The end.

[QUOTE=Ki11aFTFW;39641156]Gabe stated long ago that the episodic games were an experiment for the series. They were specifically meant so that a release would appear a lot more frequent. Tell me, do you see episodes on TV, that stop for 6 years, and then just start again? Would make no sense for them to call it episode 3 to be honest. My bet is that they developed all new content from guns-npcs-scenery, etc. The only way i'd accept an "Episode 3" slapped at the end of the title, would be if it was literally how HL2 Ep2 ended, with the same exact weapons and not much changes with the characters visually, on source 1, etc. Which would be very unfortunate. It's common sense really, HL2 was great for it's time. There is no way they are gonna make next-gen content, new weapons, use a new engine, and slap Episode 3 at the end, it makes no sense.[/QUOTE] The only way it would ever be called half-life 3 is if valve saw the immense amount of people who had convinced themselves that's what it would be called, based on the misunderstanding of one article, where he talks about content delivery in general, and caved in like they did when enough idiots convinced themselves the pyro was a woman (because they didn't get a gay joke) The "episodes" subtitle were an attempt from valve to signify this new approach to content delivery, but it doesn't specifically say anything about content or length of the game, only what the relation to half-life 2's story is. They might as well have gone by the original names, "aftermath" for ep1 and "outland" for ep2 (and borealis or something to that extent for ep3), in which case i bet you nobody would have thought the next game would be called half-life 3. It's only because Valve chose "episodes" as the subtitle's instead. And then gabe gave an interview in which he discussed episodic content delivery compared to the faster, more frequent content delivery of team fortress 2, which he favored (which i'm sure you will agree nobody takes into account when discussing the future of the half-life series, only the first part of the sentence, because they don't like to read entire interviews, only what gaming sites cherry pick for them)

Reasons why people think it will be called Half-Life 3: -Gabe replies to questions that include that name -It's been in development a really long time It would be a really dumb move to completely ignore the trilogy structure that they made a big deal out of and it would be confusing to anyone who hasn't followed the ongoing saga of the game's development. A lot of people who just finished Episode Two would be wondering why there isn't a third one despite the constant references to "three episodes" in the commentary and in the press.

Just now I wanted to look up some HL2DM map strategies on the [URL="http://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/HL2DM#Maps"]Overwiki[/URL], but it seems that there's only a list of official maps, without any real in-depth information about them. Considering how many people still play HL2DM online, I personally think there should be more detailed articles for each map about the layout, weapon placement, common strategies, etc. Anyone agree?