Goose's Faction Server 2 - Go Away Popillil Edition - Games

I like video games [editline]10th September 2012[/editline] And I plan to add vampires back btw, along with werewolves. Twist is: once you turn, you can never go back.

what are the upsides of being a werewoof? (and downsides)

Since the only person who stood up for rage is now denouncing him, I have decided to remove him and his alt rackthejipper from the whitelist. Admins, do not add him back unless I say different. Let this be a warning: I'm tired of the meta wars and MLG pvp shit. Play realistically and don't be a pointless asshole. PLEASE. I'm trying to have players on here of like mind. If you can't do me a simple favor of not being a meta dick, then I don't want you here anymore. Anyone disagree? I don't want to be an all powerful admin. I just want you guys to have fun. I feel like recently a lot of people have not been very happy with rageblood coming back. I didn't ban him for so long because I dont want you guys to ever feel like you're always at danger of being banned because of an over active admin. I want my server to be more personal, and feel like the admins are just as much players as you are. They are just ones I entrust with enforcing the few rules we have, and banning cheaters. I hate banning people because its what is "best" for the server, because I fear that will put everyone on edge and make them feel like they simply can't play the game. This isn't big brother server. Just please follow the rules and play nice. And I don't mean nice in a "no pvp" way, just play like we're all friends here. This isn't a hardcore pop server. It's a factions server. That doesn't mean you HAVE to pvp. It's not the focus. The focus is your faction. And what you have to do to make that faction prosper. If you're just attacking people randomly and not developing your faction, you're not getting the point.

I don't mind Rage at all, he filled the "barbarian" role. Seems silly to artificially limit what you can or can not do. That kind of stuff drove me away from faction servers much more than mindless killing. Though I don't mind it here since I'm actually in a large faction, not fending for myself. of course, my sympathy likely stems from being the "terrorist" on the server I played on to pass the time between SKS and this :v:

And I unwhitelisted him and didn't ban him because I'm more interested in what you guys want. Do you want him back or not?

I don't think my opinion should count for much, seeing as I haven't had time to be on much, but I don't mind a challenge. Frankly I think if the amount of time complaining were spent building defenses he wouldn't even be an issue. Likewise for complaining about "impenetrable" fortresses.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37618500]And I unwhitelisted him and didn't ban him because I'm more interested in what you guys want. Do you want him back or not?[/QUOTE] Maybe he can come back after a while, but right now we need a little time to play a little more peacefully. Anyway, got any info about the werewolf plugin?

I don't mind him being on as long as he doesn't surprise-raid our farms for no goddamn reason again.

It would be fun if you could only use your werewolf powers during a full moon, and if you couldn't stop yourself from changing on full moons.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37618500] Do you want him back or not?[/QUOTE] would be nice to log on without the fear of a random shitty attack, or be featured in a pro LD video. That's just my opinion I could careless about what happens to that guy, I won't lose any sleep. Oh and I just got laid off from work so i'll have plenty of time to play now :)

[QUOTE=_Kent_;37618804]Maybe he can come back after a while, but right now we need a little time to play a little more peacefully. Anyway, got any info about the werewolf plugin?[/QUOTE] I'll link the plugin when I get off work. Basically I'll be removing the cure items from both sides. Or, to make it interesting, make the cure require the ender egg, and maybe have the requirement to make yourself a vampire is that you need an ended egg. [editline]10th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=_Kent_;37618820]It would be fun if you could only use your werewolf powers during a full moon, and if you couldn't stop yourself from changing on full moons.[/QUOTE] That's exactly how it works. You also cannot type as a werewolf. Your words just come out as howls, and your name changes to "werewolf".

I don't mind having Rageblood around. He is one of the few people who make the server interesting at times like these. I think the "fair" way to rid of him is for all the offended factions to team up and lock him away. Some of you guys really need to think more about defense. No offense, Iron Horde, but building an open residential district stuck between a bunch of mountains is a bad idea. Those mountains offer an easy vantage point for the enemy to snipe you, and bombard the buildings below. Your defenses were not that bad in Generation I. Your buildings were completely walled off, and on top of some hills. Defense is a trade-off, of course. So, you can either have a REALLY nice, big open base, or a compact and good-looking defensible fortress. It will take more effort to make that small fortress look good compared to that city, but it's up to the builder. Iron Cross took the defensible route, and that's our choice. We built our fortress where no one could touch us, and designed it with defense as the number one priority. I think it's fair game that we can defend ourselves quite well. If you want to siege us, you're going to have to really [B]try.[/B] [B]tl;dr[/B] Rage should stay because he makes the server fun when nothing else is happening. Iron Horde is having a hard time because of their base location and layout. Base strength is a trade-off for good looks. Iron Cross built a fortress with defense in mind, and I think it's fair that we are hard to attack.

In my opinion, I don't care much if Rage comes back or not. I don't like him, I think he's annoying and meta. But I don't want the perception to be that he was removed because of his attacks on Iron Horde. To be 100% honest, those aren't what have me upset. I don't want to piss off my faction here, but frankly, the city is 90% for looks. Almost all of the shit that matters in a strategic sense is secured in areas that have not been damaged in any of the attacks. It's annoying, but it's not that bad. If the decision to remove Rage stands, it should be because he is a piece of shit who attacks random factions, burns shit for no reason, and didn't keep his word to Goose not to grief shit. And no, I am not talking about IH, I am talking primarily about Shipwrights, and the damage he did to USBR before the war. I know it isn't my server, but I personally envision it as a place that is a little closer to reality in terms of the way war and politics unfold. A small faction that does nothing international, and is relatively isolated, i.e. Shipwrights, should be relatively safe. I mean for fucks-sake even Hitler left Switzerland alone. If they were right on someone's territory, undercutting prices aggressively, or otherwise doing something to inflame tensions, sure, fuck them up. But it just seems silly to me that it all happens for no reason. Even back in so-called barbarian times random raids without function or purpose were pretty rare. Not a daily thing committed by one of the larger and more active states. Rageblood isn't a rule breaker, and not everything he does is total shit, but to me he seems like a poor match for the server, or at least my interpretation of it. Whether Goose agrees with it or not I suppose is what matters, but there is my two cents. So basically I think he should reform, or be removed. [editline]10th September 2012[/editline] AND he was already given a chance to reform, so I think if he is given another chance, that should be it, starts his shit again and gone for good.

Also, to those of you who keep wanting the airships: another problem with them is that, unlike in real life, when you blow up an airship, they don't crash to the ground. The burning husk just floats in the air. I'd rather not have that sort of crap floating around the world. You think floating tree tops are bad? Try having a floating ship half burnt up above your base. And yeah the shipwrights thing is really what is making me not want him back. It really was just a pointless attack and seemed like it was just to have something to put into his video. I just don't like the obvious tongue and cheek attitude he has towards the server and how we play. He says that it's because he's a terrorist or whatever but it's just because he wants to blow things up and watch our reactions. That's why he makes the videos, and that's why he's been banned from so many other servers for griefing. That isn't the type of thing I want on the server to keep things "interesting". The point of the matter is, there is nothing wrong with peace. If you seriously want pvp all the time, this isn't the server for you. I've tried to make it clear, but many don't catch on. This isn't about the pvp, like I said, it's about the factions and the world shaping around them. Constant pvp shows me that I'm doing something wrong and I need to make it harder to go to war. War should be something that isn't taken lightly. Maybe I should raise the amount of power you lose web you die. All I know is that if you want pvp all the time, you're in the wrong place.

I just don't see any actual wars starting without random reasons to attack, I think it's right in his ban, he just attacked randomly too many times but, him griefing USBP was just a reason for me to be really active on the server.

I just feel like we are a community here. I respect and enjoy you all being on the server. We talk trash, sure, but I hope that's all it is: harmless talk. I might get grumpy now and again, but I do like managing this server for people. There are grudges, but they are in-game, and don't expand outside of the server. Imperium, we are always going to be at odds with you because of what happened Gen I, and I think that's awesome, but I don't have any legit hate for you guys as people. You had your motivations, just like we had ours. You thought that we were getting too powerful and that we took Jows land unfairly. Fuck, even Los Diablos played legit in gen I. I mean, they built like shit, but from what I can remember, they didn't seem to do this random attack shit as much. That's all I want. I just want Los Diablos to be a FACTION again, instead of just a group of 3 or 4 where one person builds and the rest go out and burn everything because they're "Terrorists". It's easy for Rage and other pure PVP players who don't build to just shit on everything they see. Because they have no tie to the server. If everyone leaves, they can just go to another server. They put no work into their faction or build anything, so why should they give a shit if the server clears out because they drive everyone away. We all put time into our creations and factions. That's why its kind of a big deal when we go to war. Those things are at risk. The time we spent on them is at risk. And that's how it should be. You should have to weigh the consequences. Fuck, I'm fine with a pirate faction or whatever, I don't care, [B]JUST BUILD SOMETHING WORTH WHILE, PLEASE.[/B] Otherwise you're just seen as a fucking ass who breaks peoples shit and have no tie to the world at all. Take some time to develop your faction like everyone else. If you can't do this, then I really won't feel bad about not having you around.

I legit hate Ryainken.

Okay, Bacon is most likely the new Leader of LD, unless he pack up and goes with Rage, in that case it's me. Either way, I'm open to peace talks. Let's wait for Bacon to come online before any further talks, though.

I really like the rules free hands-off style the server has, because it gives you wiggle room to sabotage a business opponent, or fuck over someone building too close to you, and occasionally even do something without a greater motivation other than you want what they have. But that isn't the primary focus of the server, and I think making a lifestyle out of it sort of fucks it up for everyone else who wouldn't take such ruthless advantage of the lack of rules, and would only do that kind of thing rarely. It makes the rules free nature of the server harder to defend when there are people like Rageblood who exploit that and use it as an excuse to destroy peaceful factions who did nothing and offended no one, just because why the fuck not, and the fact that he makes it his prime occupation, rather than building anything or forming any sort of tangible bond to the server and the community, makes it all the worse.

I haven't banned rage quite yet. I'm kind of waiting for him to post what he thinks and has to say. If he doesn't post or say anything then I'll just make it final.

I have a problem with rage leaving. [sub][sub][sub][sub]If he leaves I leave btw ;-;[/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub]

[QUOTE=rrunyan;37620949]I have a problem with rage leaving. [sub][sub][sub][sub]If he leaves I leave btw ;-;[/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub][/QUOTE] Why? he obviously doesn't care because he hasn't posted or said anything. He was just browsing the thread a while ago yet he made no post.

Wait, can I be whitelisted again? I tried making Los Diablos change since the beginning of the server, having someone else be 2-star leader, and not leading direct attacks on other faction personnel. No player of Shipwrights was directly attacked, no player of USBP was directly attacked, no player of Ironhorde was directly attacked, nor no player of Ironcross was directly attacked. Sure, there were things like boatjacking and boatburning. But nothing directed towards say, cannoning everything or hiding TNT under the base. However, USBP, Ironhorde, and Ironcross joined together and blew up the first base. In order to preserve Los Diablos faction, I ended up being the leader again. Since USBP, Ironhorde, and Ironcross didn't like that Los Diablos had a new leader, with significantly less frequent attacks. I presumed that they want the opposite, with another era of bombings and terrorism. Politik was blown up by a separate entity, that I did not know of. And now the current attacks towards Ironhorde, USBP, and Ironcross were a reaction to the blowing up of the first Los Diablos base.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37620123]I haven't banned rage quite yet. I'm kind of waiting for him to post what he thinks and has to say. If he doesn't post or say anything then I'll just make it final.[/QUOTE] You might be waiting awhile, he's busy making a poorly edited video about how he is totally not a griefer and we all just made shit up.

[QUOTE=Dr.Feelgoood;37621084]You might be waiting awhile, he's busy making a poorly edited video about how he is totally not a griefer and we all just made shit up.[/QUOTE] ninjad.

[QUOTE=Rageblood;37621015]Wait, can I be whitelisted again? I tried making Los Diablos change since the beginning of the server, having someone else be 2-star leader, and not leading direct attacks on other faction personnel. No player of Shipwrights was directly attacked, no player of USBP was directly attacked, no player of Ironhorde was directly attacked, nor no player of Ironcross was directly attacked. Sure, there were things like boatjacking and boatburning. But nothing directed towards say, cannoning everything or hiding TNT under the base. However, USBP, Ironhorde, and Ironcross joined together and blew up the first base. In order to preserve Los Diablos faction, I ended up being the leader again. Since USBP, Ironhorde, and Ironcross didn't like that Los Diablos had a new leader, with significantly less frequent attacks. I presumed that they want the opposite, with another era of bombings and terrorism. Politik was blown up by a separate entity, that I did not know of. And now the current attacks towards Ironhorde, USBP, and Ironcross were a reaction to the blowing up of the first Los Diablos base.[/QUOTE] Its all destructive and pointless and you know it. We joined together because you stole a ship. That was ACTUALLY a legit thing and was totally fine, I'm not pissed about your attacks on us. The pointless ship burning and attacking of Shipwrights was just not needed and really just hinted to your past self coming out again. You don't see us all attacking a small faction that keeps to themselves, do you? Just stop using the lack of rules as an excuse to be a dick. Build something for once, do something productive. Show me that you WANT to play on my server and that you are actually committing to it. I don't want to keep doing this with you. If you want to play Mr. Terrorist, please go somewhere else. If you want to play like an adult and build an actual prospering faction, you're welcome here. In the mean time, I suggest you stop the constant attacks, work on your foreign policy, and maybe try to make a friend or two. Like, seriously, prove to me that you belong in this server. Anyway, I'll be back in a bit. I would like to read what you have to say to this.

[QUOTE=Rageblood;37621015]Wait, can I be whitelisted again? I tried making Los Diablos change since the beginning of the server, having someone else be 2-star leader, and not leading direct attacks on other faction personnel. No player of Shipwrights was directly attacked, no player of USBP was directly attacked, no player of Ironhorde was directly attacked, nor no player of Ironcross was directly attacked. Sure, there were things like boatjacking and boatburning. But nothing directed towards say, cannoning everything or hiding TNT under the base. However, USBP, Ironhorde, and Ironcross joined together and blew up the first base. In order to preserve Los Diablos faction, I ended up being the leader again. Since USBP, Ironhorde, and Ironcross didn't like that Los Diablos had a new leader, with significantly less frequent attacks. I presumed that they want the opposite, with another era of bombings and terrorism. Politik was blown up by a separate entity, that I did not know of. And now the current attacks towards Ironhorde, USBP, and Ironcross were a reaction to the blowing up of the first Los Diablos base.[/QUOTE] Just because you're not attacking players doesn't mean burning random people's shit for no good reason isn't an aggressive action. I don't understand how you can't understand that. And you know that is bullshit. "Oh they attacked while I was being less of a dick, therefore they must want me to be more of a dick." Even though we specifically stated we were attacking you because you are a dick, even though your admission to the server was contingent on you not being a dick. Your grandstanding and positioning, in lieu of an actual attempt to explain or justify your actions, at least with any sound reasoning, shows me that you don't take the matter seriously enough. I move for ban.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37621270]Its all destructive and pointless and you know it. [/QUOTE] It was destructive and it served a point. It tested the combat effectiveness of boats. [QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37621270] We joined together because you stole a ship. That was ACTUALLY a legit thing and was totally fine, I'm not pissed about your attacks on us. [/quote] Then why did all of this happen [i]after[/i] I attacked Ironcross and Ironhorde? [QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37621270] The pointless ship burning and attacking of Shipwrights was just not needed and really just hinted to your past self coming out again. You don't see us all attacking a small faction that keeps to themselves, do you? Just stop using the lack of rules as an excuse to be a dick. [/quote] But did I really do anything illegal? And I tested out the combat effectiveness of boats, they claimed shitty too. [QUOTE=T2L_Goose;37621270] Build something for once, do something productive. Show me that you WANT to play on my server and that you are actually committing to it. I don't want to keep doing this with you. If you want to play Mr. Terrorist, please go somewhere else. If you want to play like an adult and build an actual prospering faction, you're welcome here. In the mean time, I suggest you stop the constant attacks, work on your foreign policy, and maybe try to make a friend or two. [/quote] What about Mir'Vall port? What about the new prosperity in my faction when the third base was constructed? How about SuperDiau? What about the new export of wool, wood, and books that my faction is working on My faction is progressing quickly all around, and Los Diablos is gaining influence and members.

[QUOTE=Rageblood;37621366]It was destructive and it served a point. It tested the combat effectiveness of boats. Then why did all of this happen [i]after[/i] I attacked Ironcross and Ironhorde? But did I really do anything illegal? And I tested out the combat effectiveness of boats, they claimed shitty too. What about Mir'Vall port? What about the new prosperity in my faction when the third base was constructed? How about SuperDiau? What about the new export of wool, wood, and books that my faction is working on My faction is progressing quickly all around, and Los Diablos is gaining influence and members.[/QUOTE] Since when is testing "combat effectiveness" possible on an unmanned vessel? An unmanned tnt cannon is as effective in combat as a block of dirt. You're so full of shit it makes my head spin. Also: No one said anything was wrong with LD as a whole, the problem is you. I hope LD does well in the future.

Goose, can you whitelist my friends? albinoninja98k wargod51