Tribes: Ascend v3: Would the real shazbot please stand up - Games

[QUOTE=4RT1LL3RY;35714021]Its a slower firing Grenade Launcher without an arc, lower dmg, smaller splash, and a bigger clip. Its only advantage is the GIANT projectile hitbox which make it bad indoors because you can't shot around corners, but good for midairs. Its on par with most Raider weapons, which are fucking amazing compared to most gear heavies get. [img]http://ph-matt.dyndns.org/weapondamageimage.php?patch=12&object=1&w33=on&w34=on&w66=on[/img][/QUOTE] It is [I]far[/I] better than the other weapons by a mile due to the massive ease of use. The graph means nothing in this situation because more than half the shots fired from the arx or gl are never going to hit shit, while it's easy to hit with 90-100% of the plasma shots. [editline]26th April 2012[/editline] also lol are you really saying heavies are underpowered?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0xL4DqNsPI[/media] I want to do this.

They really should reduce the projectile speed on that sucker. It looks like it's going faster than your average spinfusor disk.

Seriously, I've been in a few arena games from people who bought the Plasma Rifle. It's downright an unfair edge Raiders got now.

[QUOTE=mchapra;35715799]Seriously, I've been in a few arena games from people who bought the Plasma Rifle. It's downright an unfair edge Raiders got now.[/QUOTE] Arena is not the main part of the game and stuff shouldn't be nerfed or buffed due to it.

i think all they need change plasma gun is the hitbox, but not just reduce its size, but split it on 2 or 3 hitboxes, where one would be for direct hit with size of the real projectile or something like spinfusors, doing full 500 damage, others would be original hitbox but instead of doing full damage, do something like 200~300. maybe change the air mail reward to only direct hits

i dont like how they've removed the glitch in the server selector so you could servers from everywhere

[QUOTE=C4rnage;35717972]i think all they need change plasma gun is the hitbox, but not just reduce its size, but split it on 2 or 3 hitboxes, where one would be for direct hit with size of the real projectile or something like spinfusors, doing full 500 damage, others would be original hitbox but instead of doing full damage, do something like 200~300. maybe change the air mail reward to only direct hits[/QUOTE] youre joking right? why should people with the weapon be rewarded for having shit aim? if theyre going to do some dumb shit like dealing damage because the projectile was close to you, then the might as well just make players have the hitbox of beowolfs so every no-aim scrub benefits from it.

[QUOTE=Chirno;35718289]youre joking right? why should people with the weapon be rewarded for having shit aim? if theyre going to do some dumb shit like dealing damage because the projectile was close to you, then the might as well just make players have the hitbox of beowolfs so every no-aim scrub benefits from it.[/QUOTE] so doing [B]less[/B] damage for a glancing his is rewarding the player?

[QUOTE=thisguy123;35718344]so doing [B]less[/B] damage for a glancing his is rewarding the player?[/QUOTE] when they fix the hitbox issue, yes it would be rewarding people with that weapon... why should missing still do damage just because you have the only weapon that does it

[QUOTE=C4rnage;35717972]i think all they need change plasma gun is the hitbox, but not just reduce its size, but split it on 2 or 3 hitboxes, where one would be for direct hit with size of the real projectile or something like spinfusors, doing full 500 damage, others would be original hitbox but instead of doing full damage, do something like 200~300. maybe change the air mail reward to only direct hits[/QUOTE] even then 500 is too much for direct hits.

[QUOTE=leonthefox;35712545]I put that on target, but I'm getting an "invalid command line" error Can someone post a screenshot of where I have to paste those commands?[/QUOTE] Still don't know how to do this

[QUOTE=krail9;35718426]even then 500 is too much for direct hits.[/QUOTE] with current hitbox we have no idea how easy is do a direct hit. inheritance on this weapon make it quite hard to aim on high speeds, and when u and ur target arent going to same direction, on indoors is quite fair match with other explosives on this game,

[QUOTE=Eltro102;35718205]i dont like how they've removed the glitch in the server selector so you could servers from everywhere[/QUOTE] oops sorry ignore this its still here yay [editline]26th April 2012[/editline] i dont like how its not path only now on shrike servers :(

[QUOTE=C4rnage;35718843]with current hitbox we have no idea how easy is do a direct hit. inheritance on this weapon make it quite hard to aim on high speeds, and when u and ur target arent going to same direction, on indoors is quite fair match with other explosives on this game,[/QUOTE] but even if you assume 500 is level with say the spinfusor it doesn't balance because you will inherently do more damage with those glancing (~200) shots.

It isn't to hard to do Direct hits with the spinfusor, and 500 damage with 3times higher rof is way to much. Imo, fix hitboxes and reduce splash damage to a minimum.

I love the new smg, it's just so good for chasing. [QUOTE=Niklas;35719223]It isn't to hard to do Direct hits with the[I] Plasma Rifle[/I], and 500 damage with 3times higher rof is way to much. Imo, fix hitboxes and reduce splash damage to a minimum.[/QUOTE] Fixed it for you. Also, Hi-Rez does what the hell they want with balance in this game and do not listen to community much, I wouldn't expect a huge nerf. They think Juggernaut is underpowered, need I say more?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jSEAJ.gif[/IMG] [QUOTE=Some Hi-Rez employee]If new weapons are OP, it's because we f*** up --> not because we intended it. Our intention is for new weapons to be fun and different, but balanced with the existing weapons. That makes the best game, and over time we make the most money -- and have the best time as people who love what we do -- with that strategy. Trust me, introducing a new weapon and then having to turn right around and nerf it, is both embarrassing to us and costly to us (each patch we do has a real and meaningful cost), and does not earn us more money. Weapons that have new mechanics in them (such as the Jackal and the Plasma Gun) are harder to balance for all audiences without getting large numbers of people using them. In both cases, I think we could have done a better job out of the gate, and are adjusting our own processes some to account for that. We like to move fast , constantly provide fresh new content into our games, and push boundaries. We think that approach allows us to create great products that we are tremendously proud of--> but any time you are moving fast and pushing boundaries you may not get everything perfect right out of the gate. We are planning on a patch soon that will make a few balance changes. [B]We will likely[/B] adjust the Plasma Gun some with that patch, as well as a few other changes. The Plasma Gun will still be plenty fun and full of awesome, but we do feel it's [B]a little OP right now in the right hands[/B] and probably does need to be adjusted some.[/QUOTE]

Grav Cycle is so hilariously abusable on Temple Ruins. Just keep driving through the flag stand and rack up them roadkills. :v:

Just after I bought a Grav Cycle, some sandraker stole our flag so I jumped off it to chase the bastard. And then it happened. Juggernaut stole my bike. He spammed VGW too.

Jugga' stole my bike

Raider was already my favorite but now holy damn

[QUOTE=NanoSquid;35720504]Raider was already my favorite but now holy damn[/QUOTE] Raider was already my most hated but now holy damn. I give up trying to defend the flag, plus there is a bug arround blocking deploys so is imposible.

[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;35715710][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0xL4DqNsPI[/media] I want to do this.[/QUOTE] I'm sure we could devote a day to it on the FP server, if someone gets one...

[QUOTE=krail9;35718426]even then 500 is too much for direct hits.[/QUOTE] The bolt launcher does something like 877 for a direct hit and 600 for splash damage, 500 damage isn't too much for a direct hit, they just need to make the hitbox smaller so you have to actually aim it they also need to just make it so you can't explode the jackal shots in mid air because that shit is so broken

Doesn't it already have reduced radius while in midair and deals only 250 damage if timed and shot perfectly?

make jackal mid-air explosions and possibly raider ones knock people around instead of doing damage (maybe make you fumble the flag?)

Yeah, but I think it's 250 damage per shot and it's 3 shots I've been killed so many times by it, it's near impossible to dodge mid air because you just have to change your whole path every time they fire

Reach or safety third for path?

I fully upgraded reach but tbh I dont notice it at all