Killing Floor V4 - Knife Goes in, Guts Come Out.

[Don Knotts]

[QUOTE==DarkStar=;36711386]Fuck the spin attack is way to op since is broken.

I was ALONE and the godamn bastard 1-hit kill me with the attack. If they don't code the fucking attack for more that 1 player is going to be so cheap trying to fight 1-1 with the Patriatch.[/QUOTE]

I have yet to even see this spin attack and I go berserker or support every time. I really want to know what it's all about.

[PotatoArmada]

I've only ever seen him do the spin attack when the whole team was meleeing him. 5 of us and he didn't do anything and got annhilated.

[ubertaco]

Only 1300 more headshots till level 5 sharpshooter

[Pugsworth]

[QUOTE=ubertaco;36711902]Only 1300 more headshots till level 5 sharpshooter[/QUOTE]

Beginner long with 99 fakeplayer mutator. You will have it in no time.

[=DarkStar=]

[QUOTE=Don Knotts;36711730]I have yet to even see this spin attack and I go berserker or support every time. I really want to know what it's all about.[/QUOTE]

Is a pretty fast one-hit kill attack.

At this moment he pretty much run into you and spi killing you right away, when he only should use the attack when a group surround him.

[arlygoodbrownie]

[QUOTE=vexx21322;36711943]Beginner long with 99 fakeplayer mutator. You will have it in no time.[/QUOTE]

I thought ranks didn't go up in beginner?

[BloodFox1222]

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;36712054]I thought ranks didn't go up in beginner?[/QUOTE]

If so then i'd be a much much lower level.

[Fr3ddi3]

[QUOTE=vexx21322;36710722]Do the humane thing and just let them rage quit. The more they are not encouraged, the less likely they will play on those harder modes. Let them learn that they have to carry their own weight if they want to survive.[/QUOTE]

Well normally when im with friends we kick straight away, if they don't leave when asked. I feel like an arse for doing i wont lie, but i don't want to deal with an extra 70 zeds when the new guys dies 10 seconds into a round. I wish their was something built in that prevents you from joining HoE with anything less than 1 level 3 perk.

Also guys, half the fun in KF is the leveling up, don't rush it let it occour naturally. You'll regret it otherwise.

[Dr.Cola]

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;36712054]I thought ranks didn't go up in beginner?[/QUOTE] If that were true then Level 0's would have a hard time on normal trying to get their ranks up.

[Marphy Black]

[QUOTE==DarkStar=;36711386]I was ALONE and the godamn bastard 1-hit kill me with the attack.[/quote]The Patriarch's radial attack cannot possibly occur with only one player. The code specifically checks for three or more human pawns within melee range. In fact, you can read the code yourself right here:

foreach DynamicActors(class'KFHumanPawn', P)
{
     // look for guys attacking us within 3 meters
     if ( VSize(P.Location - Location) < 150 )
     {
     NumPlayersSurrounding++;

     if( P != none && P.Weapon != none )
     {
     	if( Axe(P.Weapon) != none || Chainsaw(P.Weapon) != none )
     	{
     		NumLumberJacks++;
     	}
     	else if( Katana(P.Weapon) != none )
     	{
     		NumNinjas++;
     	}
      }

      if( !bDidRadialAttack && NumPlayersSurrounding >= 3 )
      {
     	bDidRadialAttack = true;
     	GotoState('RadialAttack');
     	break;
      }
     }
}

This snippet of code is run when the "TakeDamage" function is called, meaning if you absolutely do not want the Patriarch to use his radial attack, simply refrain from hurting him. He'll only use it if he's attacked and the above conditions are met.

Incidentally, the likelihood of dying from the radial attack is very low unless you're already very low on health or you're trapped in a cramped space so that you get hit with both damage volleys rather than getting knocked out of his melee range after the first hit.

[ubertaco]

How do I use the 99 fakeplayer mutator? its not in the list of mutators.

[BloodFox1222]

[QUOTE=ubertaco;36712207]How do I use the 99 fakeplayer mutator? its not in the list of mutators.[/QUOTE]

Its not an official one, You need to download and install it. Don't worry its whitelisted. [url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=37788[/url]
Original download link is defunct but somebody reuploaded on one of the newest pages.

[Bragdras]

Wait, what radial attack are you guys talking about? Did they give him a new ability? Haven't played that patch yet.

[flyboy463]

[QUOTE=ubertaco;36712207]How do I use the 99 fakeplayer mutator? its not in the list of mutators.[/QUOTE]

-Ninja'd-

In other news, server is up.

IP: fms.dyndns-free.com

Password: FKFS

It's Long and Hard so come play.

[ubertaco]

Thank you guys.
But now steam isn't connecting for me anymore.

[=DarkStar=]

[QUOTE=Marphy Black;36712145]The Patriarch's radial attack cannot possibly occur with only one player. The code specifically checks for three or more human pawns within melee range. In fact, you can read the code yourself right here:

foreach DynamicActors(class'KFHumanPawn', P)
{
     // look for guys attacking us within 3 meters
     if ( VSize(P.Location - Location) < 150 )
     {
     NumPlayersSurrounding++;

     if( P != none && P.Weapon != none )
     {
     	if( Axe(P.Weapon) != none || Chainsaw(P.Weapon) != none )
     	{
     		NumLumberJacks++;
     	}
     	else if( Katana(P.Weapon) != none )
     	{
     		NumNinjas++;
     	}
      }

      if( !bDidRadialAttack && NumPlayersSurrounding >= 3 )
      {
     	bDidRadialAttack = true;
     	GotoState('RadialAttack');
     	break;
      }
     }
}

This snippet of code is run when the "TakeDamage" function is called, meaning if you absolutely do not want the Patriarch to use his radial attack, simply refrain from hurting him. He'll only use it if he's attacked and the above conditions are met.

Incidentally, the likelihood of dying from the radial attack is very low unless you're already very low on health or you're trapped in a cramped space so that you get hit with both damage volleys rather than getting knocked out of his melee range after the first hit.[/QUOTE]

I know you have the code as back up but I was running away from him at full health (with armor) reloading my SCAR to keep dealing pain and when I turn arround he was next to me and made the spin and one hit me.

I can't trust the code if I got killed half hour ago.

[BloodFox1222]

[QUOTE=ubertaco;36712332]Thank you guys.
But now steam isn't connecting for me anymore.[/QUOTE]

Neither for me and my internet seems to be okay for everything else so don't worry about it. Probably just valve messing around.

[PotatoArmada]

[QUOTE=Bragdras;36712269]Wait, what radial attack are you guys talking about? Did they give him a new ability? Haven't played that patch yet.[/QUOTE]

They added a spin attack to the patriarch to prevent all the players going zerker with chainsaws.

[[Green]]

Guys, would anyone be interested in a fakeplayers 80 set match of Killing Floor on Beginner and then Normal? I'd host a listen server from Finland, just to see how ridiculous the masses would be. I remember some bigger 64-slot servers having entire seas of enemies.

[MystFoxcoon]

Is anyone else getting incredibly slow download times on maps? It takes me 20 seconds or so to download a single percent of a map.

It's never happened until I got on today.

[Fr3ddi3]

Our server has an issue with it atm because it's not updated. As a result everyone who tries to join get a really slow DL for the map it's currently runnign even if it's stock.

It could be that the servers your joining are not updated, or your client needs updating.

[Concur]

[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;36709475]Levelling Support is a real pain in the ass, any ideas other that "ducktape m1 and go to sleep"?[/QUOTE]

S.A.M. time

[cs_bunny]

I just noticed that one of the new songs from Hellride:

[quote]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQoQ7IqbF-0[/media]
[/quote]

is a mix of the "Liberty Bell March" by Sousa, more commonly known as the theme song of Monty Python's Flying Circus.

[quote]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PizaJJQgto[/media]
[/quote]

[Cmdr0ddball]

I used to play on servers that had the IJC weapons a lot in case I wanted to use a "different" kind of weapon. Now that they are in the regular list of weapons, it really isn't all that special now. That M99, yes it is "balanced" by weighing 13 blocks. But if you are even remotely good as a sharpshooter, that thing will just dominate whatever you throw at it. Not to mention that it will tear specimens lined up all in a row to shreds.

[27X]

[QUOTE=OffTheRoad;36709580]Am I the only one who actually got enough welding points before the damage points? Just go crazy with your welder and use it on doors that you never travel through, like how I weld the West London police station's main entrance shut. On some maps with lots of doors you can keep the specimens coming in smaller numbers, making it easier to wipe them out.[/QUOTE] I got all my welding points as a zerker, which is the first class I leveled.

[bloodshotlol]

in about 2 games i'll be a zerker level 6 :)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/SeaEA.jpg[/img]

[Mr. Someguy]

I just beat a game on solo on the farm, including killing the Patriarch. Was the first solo game I actually bothered with on normal. I won after running to away to hide, he chased me around the corner, and I shot him in the face with the M99 :v:

[lintz]

M99 headshot will almost always stun him. So you just have to keep track of his head while he goes invisible.

[comet1337]

i dont think ive managed to land a single, intended headshot with the m99
seems like the hitboxes are way off from the models

the husk is impossible to hit in the head

and gorefasts dont lose theirs once shot

[ashxu]

[QUOTE=vexx21322;36710722]Do the humane thing and just let them rage quit. The more they are not encouraged, the less likely they will play on those harder modes. Let them learn that they have to carry their own weight if they want to survive.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, pretty much this. I just played on a suicidal server and at least 4 lvl2s came in during the round duration and we (3 lvl6 guys) just left them to die, gave them no money and let them rage quit.