[QUOTE=Devodiere;35846237][sp]So it's a choice between Roche or Triss, and then Saskia or Triss, fuck.
How badly to the mages get fucked up if you don't go with Triss?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Witch hunts start all over the northern kingdoms, all 'magic freaks' (including witchers) are victims of these. But if you save Triss Temeria will be divided into provinces which means Nilfgaard will be able to conquer Temeria without any real resistance. So basically the Northern kingdoms are weakened for the invasion when you side with triss, and many mages are fucked when you don't side with triss. Triss gets saved by Letho if you don't help her by the way, so I think not helping her is the lesser evil.[/sp]
[QUOTE=TheBlackadder;35846377][sp]Witch hunts start all over the northern kingdoms, all 'magic freaks' (including witchers) are victims of these. But if you save Triss Temeria will be divided into provinces which means Nilfgaard will be able to conquer Temeria without any real resistance. So basically the Northern kingdoms are weakened for the invasion when you side with triss, and many mages are fucked when you don't side with triss. Triss gets saved by Letho if you don't help her by the way, so I think not helping her is the lesser evil.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Fuckin Count Maravel foreshadows this, talks about the world not needing heroes and mages, being able to go on by itself. Some mid 13th century and it's high-time for a change in the world, the enlightenment looms ahead. But will keeping Witches and Witchers stagnate the world, or will the change come regardless and be shaped by magic even more.
Fuck it, magic can live in the shadows while the world is enlightened. When the turmoil is forgotten, it will rise again and the world will be better for it. He's a Witcher after all, not exactly easy to put down.[/sp]
I finally bought the witcher 2, go to checkout, finish paying
download time: 10 hours
:v:
So I am very confused about the new quest in Chapter 3 on Iorveths path.
[sp]The start of the chapter shows what I thought was Cynthia being stabbed multiple times (and looking very dead) by the Nilfgardian ambassador but in the new quest she seems very much alive.
Did I miss something or was the sorceress who was stabbed someone different?[/sp]
Edit: thanks I rewatched the cutscene with subtitles on and realised I had missed a pretty significant amount of information
Someone different
Holy shit I just realized the Wild Hunt can be seen in vergen
[t]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/596970082478671866/76622D74135E2B94BC2E8462D64F03AF02053B93/[/t]
Remember that according to legend, the Wild Hunt appears as a comet racing across the sky as an omen of war? Well there you go, a comet racing across the sky in broad daylight
[QUOTE=KorJax;35868270]Holy shit I just realized the Wild Hunt can be seen in vergen
[t]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/596970082478671866/76622D74135E2B94BC2E8462D64F03AF02053B93/[/t]
Remember that according to legend, the Wild Hunt appears as a comet racing across the sky as an omen of war? Well there you go, a comet racing across the sky in broad daylight[/QUOTE]
it is also related to the Blood Curse.
[editline]8th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE]By blood and fire! Let it be so by blood and fire!
Let a shooting star split the heavens and mark its mortal journey with a trail of blood! Let fools be duped by the sight of fish scales turned by magic into square peices of gold! Let the Unicorn violate thousand year-old rules!
By the pain and power of fire devouring air, by the charred bones of the innocent, let the prophecy be fulfilled!
You will die in accordance with my prophecy! You cannot escape your fate.
Curse you, Henselt![/QUOTE]
I found the diagram for the Armor of Ys in Chapter 1. Is this a bug?
my witcher 1 is updating, que.
If you can check the contents of the update, tell us what you find.
Finally made it past Chapter 2 in The Witcher. I also [sp]managed to figure out that Azar was pretending to be Raymond but he and the Professor still got away. Was there any way to prevent that?[/sp]
[QUOTE=JesterUK;36094412]Finally made it past Chapter 2 in The Witcher. I also [sp]managed to figure out that Azar was pretending to be Raymond but he and the Professor still got away. Was there any way to prevent that?[/sp][/QUOTE]Nope.
I assume there's still no fix for the issue I got in Witcher 2? It's really impeding my progress.
[video=youtube;RqhyP8JPsBY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqhyP8JPsBY&feature=g-all-u[/video]
Lolz. I properly quit playing this game until the next one comes out.
The investigation is chapter 2 is almost pointless.
[sp]At the start you're supposed to be trying to find out who sent the thugs into the sewers after you (which is completely forgotten as soon as you exit the sewers, never brought up again, and you never do find out who, it can't have been Azar, he didn't know you were down there.) then you're looking into people who might be working with Salamandra (and none of them are). The ultimate conclusion is that Azar killed Raymond and took his place, which would never have happened if you didn't start investigating in the first place. The only thing that came out of it was that you stopped Azar from getting the book in the Swamp Tower. But even then, you would never have even considered opening it if not for Kalkstein being a suspect.[/sp]
[QUOTE=JesterUK;36316011]The investigation is chapter 2 is almost pointless.
[sp]At the start you're supposed to be trying to find out who sent the thugs into the sewers after you (which is completely forgotten as soon as you exit the sewers, never brought up again, and you never do find out who, it can't have been Azar, he didn't know you were down there.) then you're looking into people who might be working with Salamandra (and none of them are). The ultimate conclusion is that Azar killed Raymond and took his place, which would never have happened if you didn't start investigating in the first place. The only thing that came out of it was that you stopped Azar from getting the book in the Swamp Tower. But even then, you would never have even considered opening it if not for Kalkstein being a suspect.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Haha, I thought the same exact thing. I stopped playing at I would imagine is near the end of chapter 2 because of how poorly the plot plays out. Plus you spend way too much time in the same locale. chapter 1 was a total snoozefest and it goes on for hours.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;36316011]The investigation is chapter 2 is almost pointless.
[sp]At the start you're supposed to be trying to find out who sent the thugs into the sewers after you (which is completely forgotten as soon as you exit the sewers, never brought up again, and you never do find out who, it can't have been Azar, he didn't know you were down there.) then you're looking into people who might be working with Salamandra (and none of them are). The ultimate conclusion is that Azar killed Raymond and took his place, which would never have happened if you didn't start investigating in the first place. The only thing that came out of it was that you stopped Azar from getting the book in the Swamp Tower. But even then, you would never have even considered opening it if not for Kalkstein being a suspect.[/sp][/QUOTE]
That's not what the investigation is about. Quoting the quest description:
[sp]"I'm beginning an investigation with the help of the private eye. the goal is to find someone who works for Azar Javed and trace the Salamander boss this way. I must find someone who works for Azar Javed and trace the Salamander boss through him."[/sp].
The investigation is basically the main part of unraveling the mystery behind the theft of the witcher's secrets from Kaer Morhen, which is why Geralt went to Temeria in the first place. Geralt hopes to take down Salamandra by finding out who is masterminding their operations in Vizima, which is the precise goal of the investigation. I don't blame anyone for not mustering enough attention to stay interested throughout the dragged-out investigation, but the whole quest definitely makes sense.
The thing with the tower had nothing to do with the investigation initially, if I recall correctly. You just take up Kalkstein's request for help in gaining access to the tower for the hefty reward of 1000 orens.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;36316127]That's not what the investigation is about. Quoting the quest description: [sp]"[i]I'm beginning an investigation with the help of the private eye. the goal is to find someone who works for Azar Javed and trace the Salamander boss this way. I must find someone who works for Azar Javed and trace the Salamander boss through him.[/i]"[/sp]. This is basically the main part of unraveling the mystery behind the theft of the witcher's secrets from Kaer Morhen. I don't blame anyone for not mustering enough attention to stay interested throughout the dragged-out investigation, but the whole quest definitely makes sense.
The thing with the tower had nothing to do with the investigation initially, if I recall correctly. You just take up Kalkstein's request for help in gaining access to the tower for the hefty reward of 1000 orens.[/QUOTE]
But [sp]none of the suspects work for Salamandra. Granted, they are all connected to it in some way. The whole investigation is useless because none of the suspects tell you anything worthwhile. Nothing you do before finding Raymond's body or doing the autopsy has any impact on stopping Azar at the Swamp Tower. You uncover nothing at all during the investigation. Except Azar disguised as Raymond, which as I said, would never have happened had you not started.[/sp]
[editline]13th June 2012[/editline]
Also, you open the tower because Kalkstein is a suspect and Raymond suggests you gain his trust by helping him with a task.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;36316279]
Also, you open the tower because Kalkstein is a suspect and Raymond suggests you gain his trust by helping him with a task.[/QUOTE]
No, you can get that quest independently of the investigation. Raymond just suggests that you "get an important assignment from him" in order to gain his trust if you haven't already picked up that quest from him.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;36316521]No, you can get that quest independently of the investigation.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can aquire the quest before Raymond tells you to gain his trust, but that's still the reason the quest is there. Opening the Swamp Tower is to stop Azar getting that book (or Kalkstein if you fuck up the autopsy and still suspect him).
[editline]14th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;36316127]I don't blame anyone for not mustering enough attention to stay interested throughout the dragged-out investigation, but the whole quest definitely makes sense.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing to pay attention to. [sp]You have a list of suspects and when you talk to them they all say "I don't work for Salamandra" and Geralt just says "ok I'll come back when I get more evidence". Ramsmeat, Thaler, Vivaldi and Leuvaarden you can clear by finding info that says they aren't with Salamandra, when they could have just told you anyway ("my bank was stolen, I had nothing to do with the professors release", "I'm the head of Tamerian inteligence", "I'm part of a rival gang, Salamandra are trying to steal our monopoly on fisstech", "I'm part of an organisation that wants to see Salamandra gone"). The others you clear by figuring out Azar is disguised as Raymond (if there is a way to clear them beforehand, I don't know of it). So you learn NOTHING AT ALL about Salamandra or the stolen secrets during the investigation.[/sp]
Just started replaying this Witcher 2 again after first play through last year.. I'm still very impressed :
[QUOTE=JesterUK;36316575]There's nothing to pay attention to. [sp]You have a list of suspects and when you talk to them they all say "I don't work for Salamandra" and Geralt just says "ok I'll come back when I get more evidence". Ramsmeat, Thaler, Vivaldi and Leuvaarden you can clear by finding info that says they aren't with Salamandra, when they could have just told you anyway ("my bank was stolen, I had nothing to do with the professors release", "I'm the head of Tamerian inteligence", "I'm part of a rival gang, Salamandra are trying to steal our monopoly on fisstech", "I'm part of an organisation that wants to see Salamandra gone"). The others you clear by figuring out Azar is disguised as Raymond (if there is a way to clear them beforehand, I don't know of it). So you learn NOTHING AT ALL about Salamandra or the stolen secrets during the investigation.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Okay, so [sp]you can also clear Vincent by doing that quest for Coleman. That only leaves Kalkstein. Is there a way to clear Kalkstein before the autopsy or before you find Raymond's body?[/sp]
I think one way to do that is to[sp]open up the skull of the dude during the autopsy, and discover Zerikanian blot-fly larvae, which Azar Javed hid in some fisstech[/sp], which is quite a dastardly deed indeed if you think about it.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;36316279]But [sp]none of the suspects work for Salamandra. Granted, they are all connected to it in some way. The whole investigation is useless because none of the suspects tell you anything worthwhile. Nothing you do before finding Raymond's body or doing the autopsy has any impact on stopping Azar at the Swamp Tower. You uncover nothing at all during the investigation. Except Azar disguised as Raymond, which as I said, would never have happened had you not started.[/sp]
[editline]13th June 2012[/editline]
Also, you open the tower because Kalkstein is a suspect and Raymond suggests you gain his trust by helping him with a task.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. Thaler and the Pimp tell you a fuckload, and Thaler's info actually goes all the way through to W2.
Your attention span is simply lacking.
[QUOTE=27X;36394852]Wrong. Thaler and the Pimp tell you a fuckload, and Thaler's info actually goes all the way through to W2.[/QUOTE]
Such as? The only thing Ramsmeat told me was something about Azar and women. And I don't remember Thaler telling me anything at all.
You can't say "the investigation made no sense" afterwards.
It made sense in the beginning.
Hey, sorry to interrupt your game related discussions, but The Witcher 2 actually looks pretty good. I don't usually like that many RPG's that seem to be popular mind you (I didn't like Skyrim or Gothic, I found Oblivion to be dull too), and I do like a good bit of combat. Would I like The Witcher 2?
[QUOTE=Juggernog;36395253]Hey, sorry to interrupt your game related discussions, but The Witcher 2 actually looks pretty good. I don't usually like that many RPG's that seem to be popular mind you (I didn't like Skyrim or Gothic, I found Oblivion to be dull too), and I do like a good bit of combat. Would I like The Witcher 2?[/QUOTE]
What about rpg's do you not like?
[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;36395281]What about rpg's do you not like?[/QUOTE]
The super-extended walking, the relatively poor feeling combat and a lack of attachment to my character or other characters in the game (especially in Skyrim).
[b]Edit:[/b]
But I love the vast open world providing its not as uninteresting and dull as The Elder Scrolls world, and I love the idea of there being an economy in-game.
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