[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;38148072]Salvador average? I'm fairly certain NOBODY can tank as well as he can, and Gunzerking lets you deal insane amounts of damage extremely quickly.[/QUOTE]
Effective health wise Salvador is probably the best in combination with relics and class mods, but to match the damage output of similarly built Axtons/Gaiges you have to sub into Rampage and even then that's arguable.
For sheer surviving encounters, Cataclysm sub Harmony Maya is hands down the best. 5 points in sweet release + Ruin is massive heals every time you pull it off and it's practically a guaranteed kill against most enemies. I feel like overall the Harmony tree is massively underrated.
[editline]23rd October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Skidd;38148103]Gaige > Salvador > Maya > Axton > Zero.[/QUOTE]
How on earth are you placing Salvador ahead of Maya and Axton? The latter have so much more solo and team utility.
Woop, found a purple Dahl sniper incidenary. Yay
[QUOTE=C4rnage;38148094]Maya have great skill trees, all the 3 trees are good and fun.
Zero is fun and quite strong, can do alot of damage from melee skills or crits, i didnt like the green skill tree, you sure do alot of crit damage but thats all, found it abit boring, also the other 2 trees can do alot of damage too and dont require a good accuracy, the kunais do alot of damage on a single target. the final skill of the red tree is alot of fun you simple dissapear and then enemies start dying around.
Axton was my first class, made a build focused on the green tree, your shield is always up, the turret do alot of damage and slag people, basicly free double damage to everyone. havent tried the other 2 trees, but i cant see them better than the green one.[/QUOTE]
Guerrilla (green) is all around the best tree for him in my opinion. A couple mediocre skills but few trees get away from that. Solid self-sustaining abilities and increases to his turret, which even stock is massively powerful. The team utility given by having a dedicated non-player slagger is amazing.
Gundpowder (blue?) is again solid all around. Nuke doesn't scale as well as I'd like but the tree as a whole does exactly what you think it does: increases your personal damage with firearms
Survival (Red) is a bit more nuanced than the others. The top half of the tree is amazing. This is a great tree to sub into if you feel like you are taking too much damage because you can get all the cool shit right at the top. The middle and bottom are quite mediocre though. More powerful when you are lower health abilities are inherently bad, Mag Clamp really needs longbow to work, and the phalanx shield is almost entirely useless at 50 content. Gemini is okay but not better than double turret in Guerrilla.
If I was recommending general purpose farming builds for a level 50 Axton or even a leveling one it would be to either get the double slag turret in Guerilla then go Gunpowder, or get the nuke in Gunpowder and pick up the missile pods in Guerilla, or finally substitute one of these for Survivability if you find yourself dying too much, which you probably will on fights like Terramorphous.
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Overall class balance would probably be
Axton = Gaige > Maya > Salvador = Zero
Depending on builds, Axton/Gaige might swap, same with Salvador/Zero. If Motion was a more reliable tree Maya could potentially take second place from Axton.
Damnit. I felt bad [sp]selling the 1340 weapon, as it's so god damn cool. Sadly- The stats suck and I don't use shotguns..[/sp]
Right now [URL="http://bit.ly/SmS06H"]this is my Axton build[/URL].
Works perfect with this:
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921244189761476587/9D9EB0B323AC09CAF81B3C1F36D2EC9DDFA46FF0/[/t]
'till I get myself Legendary\Terra class mod.
[QUOTE=Cam00;38147755]He doesn't really help the team though, other than by killing stuff. And pretty much every other class can do it better, except Maya and maybe Zero.
Correct if I'm wrong about this, I didn't see any support skills on him.[/QUOTE] I do agree that not in his skill tree they're any that support your team in ammo/health, but he is a defined tank if you take his (right?) skill tree, not sure what it is called. Regardless, I am probably a little off to how little I actually play Axton, but I just remember hearing somewhere that they didn't take the "support" gunner role from roland and give it straight to axton as he is more focused on damage even though he could fill that roll.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/MpACt.jpg[/t]
Uh... I jumped on the guy and he died. I guess I'll have to just shoot someone else.
[QUOTE=Akasori;38148419][t]http://i.imgur.com/MpACt.jpg[/t]
Uh... I jumped on the guy and he died. I guess I'll have to just shoot someone else.[/QUOTE]
Just shoot him again.
[QUOTE=Akasori;38148419][t]http://i.imgur.com/MpACt.jpg[/t]
Uh... I jumped on the guy and he died. I guess I'll have to just shoot someone else.[/QUOTE]
Correct guy [sp] Its the guy with the $ sign on his back[/sp]
[QUOTE=Lolkork;38148618]I just threw a grenade and hoped for the best.[/QUOTE]
What happened?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;38148116]Effective health wise Salvador is probably the best in combination with relics and class mods, but to match the damage output of similarly built Axtons/Gaiges you have to sub into Rampage and even then that's arguable.
For sheer surviving encounters, Cataclysm sub Harmony Maya is hands down the best. 5 points in sweet release + Ruin is massive heals every time you pull it off and it's practically a guaranteed kill against most enemies. I feel like overall the Harmony tree is massively underrated.
[editline]23rd October 2012[/editline]
How on earth are you placing Salvador ahead of Maya and Axton? The latter have so much more solo and team utility.[/QUOTE]
Because Salvador is more fun to play than Maya or Axton.
Anyone on the Xbox willing to dupe/trade me a Space Knight or Bone Blinder for a Sandblaster?
[IMG]http://puu.sh/1hUbZ[/IMG]
All of my YES!
I really need to draw a borderlands comic.
Theres just so many jokes to make.
[QUOTE=Skidd;38148799]Because Salvador is more fun to play than Maya or Axton.[/QUOTE]
he is the most boring class on the game to me.
Maya was my favorite before Gaige, but Gaige is so fucking fun to play.
[QUOTE=Hammer7;38149469]
All of my YES![/QUOTE]
borderlands
now with 100% more robot character
Gimme 3rd person cam support, my characters are too cool to not look at em while they blow stuff up.
Scooter is a liar. The runner doesn't even have a glovebox, let alone a pimentaco
[QUOTE=Pernoccuous;38149691]borderlands
now with 100% more robot character[/QUOTE]
Now we need 6 players lobbies and updated intro\credits video.
Can't stop thinking 'bout 6 players Terra run.
[QUOTE=Hammer7;38149767]Now we need 6 players lobbies and updated intro\credits video.
Can't stop thinking 'bout 6 players Terra run.[/QUOTE]
Man, that sure would be a lot of Conference Call + Bee.
[QUOTE=Akasori;38148419][t]http://i.imgur.com/MpACt.jpg[/t]
Uh... I jumped on the guy and he died. I guess I'll have to just shoot someone else.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what happened to me and my brother...
My Anarchy stacks have started disappearing... on a regular reload.
As in, the out-of-bullets-automatically-reload, reload.
I'm about to start a new game, if anyone wants to join me? Gonna be mechromancer. Add me on steam!
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;38149813]Man, that sure would be a lot of Conference Call + Bee.[/QUOTE]
Unless they fix the damn PT2 balance and nerf this awful combo.
Why do you complain about it? If it's too easy don't fucking use it. Nobody is making you succumb to the bee's OP shit powers and equipping it to you.
"Hey, kiddo. Jack here - President of Hyperion."
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A56U2LMCMAEEzEv.jpg[/IMG]
Took me 2 hours. And yes, I'm bad at drawing faces.
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;38150758]"Hey, kiddo. Jack here - President of Hyperion."
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A56U2LMCMAEEzEv.jpg[/IMG]
Took me 2 hours. And yes, I'm bad at drawing faces.[/QUOTE]
Is he supposed to be cross-eyed?
[QUOTE=Dirf;38150916]Is he supposed to be cross-eyed?[/QUOTE]
Tried to make it look straight, but looks like I failed. Oh no...
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;38151173]Tried to make it look straight, but looks like I failed. Oh no...[/QUOTE]
It's not that big of a deal, the rest of him looks great.
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