[QUOTE=RedRibbonMurderer;39523317]QoP, Size and range of the cone is increased.[/QUOTE]
current scepter is better...
[QUOTE=Unisath;39523063]unit tp's to spawn while attacking your barracks
LONGEST BOAT EVER[/QUOTE]
So it becomes a motorboat. Or possibly the Titanic.
ppl should just stick to just those that don't have an aghanim's upgrade
Mirana could reduce cooldown to around 30-45 seconds. Would make it a lot more worth it.
[QUOTE=Unisath;39546235]Mirana could reduce cooldown to around 30-45 seconds. Would make it a lot more worth it.[/QUOTE]
Super-duper Smoke
Don't forget it lasts 15 seconds, 30 seconds cooldown is 1/2 Riki's ultimate for everyone for just 75 mana.
How about reduced cooldown to 1 minute and fade time to 0.5 ?
I was trying to think of one for Phantom lancer but it is a bit difficult. I like the idea of being able to teleport to illusions but it seems not worth it for the price. It could be a simple 5-10 second increase plus some added chance but seems a tad meh.
[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;39555760]I was trying to think of one for Phantom lancer but it is a bit difficult. I like the idea of being able to teleport to illusions but it seems not worth it for the price. It could be a simple 5-10 second increase plus some added chance but seems a tad meh.[/QUOTE]
Illusions explode on death
remove the illusion cap
[QUOTE=Tokagero;39548550]Super-duper Smoke
Don't forget it lasts 15 seconds, 30 seconds cooldown is 1/2 Riki's ultimate for everyone for just 75 mana.
How about reduced cooldown to 1 minute and fade time to 0.5 ?[/QUOTE]
45 seconds sounds like a reasonable middle ground, along with 1 second fade time (since the fade time at level 3 is 1.5). I really like Mirana, I just wish her ult was more useful.
Necrolyte: Killing an enemy hero with Reaper's Scythe will release a pestilence aura in a large area around the killed hero, reducing enemy's magic resistance and causing minor slow.
The magic resistance decrease synergizes well with Death Pulse, but also helps your team deal more magic damage. It also gives Reaper's Scythe an extra dimension of usefulness, rather than just a boring number upgrade.
[SUB][SUB]I know Necrolyte already has an upgrade, but it's boring and not really that useful.[/SUB][/SUB]
[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;39555760]I was trying to think of one for Phantom lancer but it is a bit difficult. I like the idea of being able to teleport to illusions but it seems not worth it for the price. It could be a simple 5-10 second increase plus some added chance but seems a tad meh.[/QUOTE]
Move the chance for juxtapose illusions to create new illusions to [I]all[/I] illusions under the control of Phantom Lancer, except that they have the same health and damage reductions as juxtapose illusions. Make all illusions last 50% longer.
[editline]11th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=butters757;39556177]Necrolyte: Killing an enemy hero with Reaper's Scythe will release a pestilence aura in a large area around the killed hero, reducing enemy's magic resistance and causing minor slow.
The magic resistance decrease synergizes well with Death Pulse, but also helps your team deal more magic damage. It also gives Reaper's Scythe an extra dimension of usefulness, rather than just a boring number upgrade.
[SUB][SUB]I know Necrolyte already has an upgrade, but it's boring and not really that useful.[/SUB][/SUB][/QUOTE]
How is being able to kill people from pretty much 60% health no problem more or less instantly not useful??? you must not ball as necro often.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;39557884]How is being able to kill people from pretty much 60% health no problem more or less instantly not useful??? you must not ball as necro often.[/QUOTE]
he's right, the upgrade is fucking miniscule (and is the only one I can think of that gets actively worse as you level up your ult) and the gold would be much better spent on getting more tanky items like pipe, mek, drums, shiva's, bkb etc.
you dont understand
you gotta ball hard or go home
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;39557884]Move the chance for juxtapose illusions to create new illusions to [I]all[/I] illusions under the control of Phantom Lancer, except that they have the same health and damage reductions as juxtapose illusions. Make all illusions last 50% longer.
[editline]11th February 2013[/editline]
How is being able to kill people from pretty much 60% health no problem more or less instantly not useful??? you must not ball as necro often.[/QUOTE]
Necrolytes scepter is the opposite of what a scepter should be.
You only get it super late game if you are fighting a specific set of heroes, and even then, it takes an item slot where something better could've been.
Necrolytes scepter is actually really good on him if you are playing a ganking loadout. I one time went scepter, dagon, shadow blade and like one other item and went 27-4. He has one of the best ultimates in the entire game as with a level 5 dagon and a shadow blade hit he can kill a tiny with half health instantly.
It doesn't need to be changed but if it does it would be cool to give it a sub ability to bring the scythe down immediatly.
[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;39566430]Necrolytes scepter is actually really good on him if you are playing a ganking loadout. I one time went scepter, dagon, shadow blade and like one other item and went 27-4. He has one of the best ultimates in the entire game as with a level 5 dagon and a shadow blade hit he can kill a tiny with half health instantly.
It doesn't need to be changed but if it does it would be cool to give it a sub ability to bring the scythe down immediatly.[/QUOTE]
That makes it worse, the delay is there to give you extra time to damage him so the ult does more damage.
let me try a bit
Sniper : Casting spells or attacking will not reveal sniper under fog of war
[QUOTE=chukkyjr;39572042]let me try a bit
Sniper : Casting spells or attacking will not reveal sniper under fog of war[/QUOTE]
It won't anyway?
[QUOTE=maxumym;39572137]It won't anyway?[/QUOTE]
spells = assassinate (should have been spell though, oh well)
if you attacks an enemy hero under fog of war (e.g from behind trees) will always reveal your position, no?
[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;39566430]Necrolytes scepter is actually really good on him if you are playing a ganking loadout. I one time went scepter, dagon, shadow blade and like one other item and went 27-4. He has one of the best ultimates in the entire game as with a level 5 dagon and a shadow blade hit he can kill a tiny with half health instantly.
It doesn't need to be changed but if it does it would be cool to give it a sub ability to bring the scythe down immediatly.[/QUOTE]
That is the worst way to play Necro.
Sure you see pubstompers do it all the time and win matches.
Against fucking awful people.
Most people will just murder him the second he walks in and not let him get extremely fed.
Even if you do manage to get extremely fed, that dagon 5 would've been better off as a Bloodstone + Sheepstick.
[QUOTE=maxumym;39572137]It won't anyway?[/QUOTE]
attacking from fog of war definitely reveals your position, it was part of one of the fails of the week videos
DK's scepter should let him keep his poison attack even if he levels up Elder Dragon Form.
enigma could get increased casting range and higher damage ramp-up/faster vacuum
Alternatively a longer duration and radius
Or the channeling could be removed (this would be shitty both ways)
As cool as all your ideas are, it's gonna be tough to balance this out to make Scepter a good item on everyone but not something everyone absolutely has to have.
Well the game already does have heroes with absolutely fantastic scepter upgrades (Invoker, Earthshaker, Pugna), some heroes with situational ones (Pudge, Outworld Destroyer, Axe) and some which aren't generally speaking all that useful (Void, Huskar, Razor) which means that some of the upgrade ideas could be somewhat weaker and some could be stronger.
Also an idea for Enigma: Black hole is centered at Enigma, removes channeling and reduces maximum movespeed during the black hole to 100.
Razor's scepter upgrade is OP, it gives everyone looking at it an epileptic seizure.
[QUOTE=NoShogun;39583401]As cool as all your ideas are, it's gonna be tough to balance this out to make Scepter a good item on everyone but not something everyone absolutely has to have.[/QUOTE]
Notice Dota is damn well balanced game as a whole with 110 unique heroes (Dota1) + 129 items.
Aghanim is sorta "next step" in difficulty and design.
Lone Druid - Aghanim's Scepter upgrades Lone Druid's bear form, increasing health and armor values.
[QUOTE=Kiq;39595348]Lone Druid - Aghanim's Scepter upgrades Lone Druid's bear form, increasing health and armor values.[/QUOTE]
How about reducing the transformation time too?
then it would be harder to dodge mirana's arrows at the tier one.
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