Hitman series Megathread - "Names are for friends, so i don't need one" - Games

[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;38423877]Why are games constantly getting leaked on the Xbox? I remember when Portal 2 got leaked and some dickface ruined the ending for everyone in giant big letters. I'm getting the fuck out of here.[/QUOTE] It's easy to get the files off of an Xbox disk, and it's easy to mod your Xbox in order to play pirated games. Plus, some retailers are really bad at not selling games before release.

[QUOTE=Hellborg 65;38424134]PCG's shit about the game trying to make you kill guards is absolute bullshit. The game takes points off your score if you do that, no way would they try to force you to do that.[/QUOTE] Here is what I think went down. The reviewer looked at the situation at hand for about 3 total seconds and came to the conclusion there was absolutely NO WAY he could pass a certain point without killing anyone!! Asshole: [img]http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2010/01/Tom-Francis.jpg[/img]

I somehow think he dumped bodies in dumpsters and sort of forgot and thought "oh damn dissappearing bodies!"

Guards used to drag bodies they found away from public places, or at least in Blood Money they did, maybe that's what happened.

Technically I don't mind disappearing bodies unless it's like in a 5 minute scope; if a body hasn't been found within 30 minutes it's definitely served its purpose. [editline]12th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=BoopieDoopie;38423686]If Hitman: Absolution is on your Holiday list, you may be in for a big disappointment. The Christmas 2012 issue of PC Gamer contains a review by Tom Francis who did a number on Hitman: Absolution with some very unflattering things to say about it. The fact that the review's sub-header reads "Hitman: Absolution is a mess. The police do not expect Blood Money is involved" should say everything. IO Interactive and Square Enix may have very little to be proud of as every portion of the game is said to be bad. The review pans the game for its art style and overuse of bloom, poor story, small levels, pointless objectives (e.g. open a door), no saves, bad AI. [B]The review also points out that the game actively encourages you to kill guards and sentries unlike previous Hitman games, which emphasized stealth over all else. Not that it matters—as many of the assassinations you perform are pre-determined cutscenes in which Agent 47 fails to kill his target, rendering all of your work pointless. [/B] Finally, the review notes that the PC port of the game was done so poorly that the game even tells you to "gently" press your mouse button, as if it were the same as an X360 controller. In addition, the performance of the game was sub-par on PC Gamer's machines, running at a sluggish 15~ FPS. For all their efforts, the game receives a score of 62 out of 100 with a verdict that reads "A passable stealth game, but one that betrays almost everything that, until now, has made Hitman great." [url]http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/10682/article/hitman-absolution-is-a-mess-gets-torn-apart-in-pc-gamer-review/[/url][/QUOTE] It's interesting to note that another review mentioned that the game encourages you to use violence on certain subjects, BUT that review also stressed that it was only the game telling you to, you didn't really have to follow the games rules. He's playing on easiest difficulty no doubt.

yeah but what about mass body piles?

If the dumbass bitch legitimately complained about dissappearing bodies because he went on mass murder streaks he should just kill himself. [editline]12th November 2012[/editline] One thing that's a big difference between BM and absolution is that most missions seems to have a lot of crowds; I'm not surprised if some bodies are removed to reduce stress, after all, they seem to be highly detailed this time around.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;38425122]If the dumbass bitch legitimately complained about dissappearing bodies because he went on mass murder streaks he should just kill himself. [editline]12th November 2012[/editline] One thing that's a big difference between BM and absolution is that most missions seems to have a lot of crowds; I'm not surprised if some bodies are removed to reduce stress, after all, they seem to be highly detailed this time around.[/QUOTE] In the Mardi Gras mission they were removed too. I would know because I would get the M16 with dual drug mag and just unload on people.

Precisely, King of chinatown has some serious amount of people, as well as some other levels. Wouldn't be surprised if bodies are removed when you go ballistic. Plus, on PC there will be some smartass who will be able to remove that limit for people with high-end rigs. [editline]12th November 2012[/editline] I'm sorry if I offended any programmers by saying "smartass".

They seem pretty happy with their crowd system this time around. Almost every video I've seen has had a crowd of some sort. Crowds at the train station at the end of the first mission, crowds in Chinatown, crowd at the strip club. I just hope they're not completely imaginary like in the Mardi Gras level, where they'd scatter about 3ft if you shot near them, but then go on as if nothing had happened.

it hasn't been done for marti gras so i doubt it'll be doable for any missions in absolution [editline]12th November 2012[/editline] also cheese, after you go ballistic or something like an explosion or shootout happens the crowds start to evacuate the level.

[QUOTE=cheesedelux;38425738]They seem pretty happy with their crowd system this time around. Almost every video I've seen has had a crowd of some sort. Crowds at the train station at the end of the first mission, crowds in Chinatown, crowd at the strip club. I just hope they're not completely imaginary like in the Mardi Gras level, where they'd scatter about 3ft if you shot near them, but then go on as if nothing had happened.[/QUOTE] I don't think they'd boast it so much if it was bad. Like, I don't think they'd go "Let's just import this system from BM with non-individual low-poly npc's that respawn forever", I'm fairly certain they're at least a bit unique.

I'm sure the game isnt as bad as the review makes it out to be, but I really really can't get past the cutscenes taking over and 47 missing his targets. Face it, the story is not going to be good and having the story take precedent over gameplay freedom is a disaster. It was bad enough in Human Revolution (of which I remember none of the story except that it kept interrupting the game)

[QUOTE=seroyal223;38426341]I'm sure the game isnt as bad as the review makes it out to be, but I really really can't get past the cutscenes taking over and 47 missing his targets. Face it, the story is not going to be good and having the story take precedent over gameplay freedom is a disaster. It was bad enough in Human Revolution (of which I remember none of the story except that it kept interrupting the game)[/QUOTE] too bad for you because most people like actually give a fuck about the story maybe i dunno judging by what you said you're one of those "give me blood money not this nerde personal shite about 47"

I for one can agree with having 47 failing missions in cutscenes being gay as heck, makes work pointless. Then again depending on how they executed it.

[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;38426408]too bad for you because most people like actually give a fuck about the story maybe i dunno judging by what you said you're one of those "give me blood money not this nerde personal shite about 47"[/QUOTE] The way I see it, a story focused game stays in your brain for a few days, and then you forget the story. A gameplay focused game can stay with you for years, like Blood Money. Obviously there's exceptions. Some games do story incredibly well. But I really don't think it's a stretch for me to say this won't be one of those games. It has forgettable story written all over it. If the devs emphasize forgettable story over gameplay, then there's basically nothing left

[QUOTE=seroyal223;38426474]The way I see it, a story focused game stays in your brain for a few days, and then you forget the story. A gameplay focused game can stay with you for years, like Blood Money. Obviously there's exceptions. Some games do story incredibly well. But I really don't think it's a stretch for me to say this won't be one of those games. It has forgettable story written all over it. If the devs emphasize forgettable story over gameplay, then there's basically nothing left[/QUOTE] Is it not possible to get both right? The Zelda series always has a great story and novel characters, does that make the gameplay bad? No, its tried and tested to work. Just because you don't soak in certain things better than other people doesn't mean a game is nearly as forgettable as it really is.

[QUOTE=peterson;38426631]Is it not possible to get both right? The Zelda series always has a great story and novel characters, does that make the gameplay bad? No, its tried and tested to work. Just because you don't soak in certain things better than other people doesn't mean a game is nearly as forgettable as it really is.[/QUOTE] No of course it is, that's why I said there are exceptions. Red Dead did both for me, I'll never forget that game. I'm just saying that we need to be real here, these guys have never made a good story. Would Blood Money still be so fun today if story had taken precedence over gameplay? Blood Money's story was horrendous but it doesn't matter, it only came to the forefront in the very last level.

[QUOTE=seroyal223;38426702]No of course it is, that's why I said there are exceptions. Red Dead did both for me, I'll never forget that game. I'm just saying that we need to be real here, these guys have never made a good story. Would Blood Money still be so fun today if story had taken precedence over gameplay? Blood Money's story was horrendous but it doesn't matter, it only came to the forefront in the very last level.[/QUOTE] And I think that is what they are trying to assess. Blood Money's story was lacking so they are making a narrative in Absolution. This in no way hinders the actual game because you are still the Hitman, you can still do everything you could do in Blood Money (and more). There is no doubt in my mind that you will eventually get to murder Dexter at some point, yeah the cutscenes might disrupt gameplay a bit but until the game comes out and you play through it fully, you can't say that you missed out on anything.

[QUOTE=peterson;38426760]And I think that is what they are trying to [B]asses.[/B] Blood Money's story was lacking so they are making a narrative in Absolution. This in no way hinders the actual game because you are still the Hitman, you can still do everything you could do in Blood Money (and more). [/QUOTE] Man, I hate when game developers ass up the sequel.

[QUOTE=A big fat ass;38426946]Man, I hate when game developers ass up the sequel.[/QUOTE] Let me add another s...

[url]http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/12/joystream-hitman-abolution-with-io-interactives-tore-blystad-a/[/url] Oh look, the PC version, seems to be running much higher than 15+ FPS, and it's not the final version.

It should be final though unless they are delibirately playing an older version. [editline]13th November 2012[/editline] Must be delibirately older, some hilarious bugs there with UI.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;38428798]It should be final though unless they are delibirately playing an older version. [editline]13th November 2012[/editline] Must be delibirately older, some hilarious bugs there with UI.[/QUOTE] Yeah the repeated controls instead of text are pretty funny.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;38428798]It should be final though unless they are delibirately playing an older version. [editline]13th November 2012[/editline] Must be delibirately older, some hilarious bugs there with UI.[/QUOTE] He says it's a dev build at the start.

what are the requirements for running this game on the computer? i just installed kane and lynch dead men and can run it. considering this game is probably going to be super optimized (IOI does a good job at that) i might be able to run it.. also i've been playing kane and lynch to tide myself over for absolution. i don't remember it taking 5 hours to beat...

[QUOTE=NeoSeeker;38431086]what are the requirements for running this game on the computer? i just installed kane and lynch dead men and can run it. considering this game is probably going to be super optimized (IOI does a good job at that) i might be able to run it.. also i've been playing kane and lynch to tide myself over for absolution. i don't remember it taking 5 hours to beat...[/QUOTE] Yeah it's pretty short, that's part of the reason I bother playing it now and again. I've played through once on 360 and twice on PC since it came out, but haven't played it in a while. I've just been playing Blood Money.

On a gut reaction, I was going to cancel my preorder based on the PC Gamer Review, but I'm sticking with it. The trailers looked great, and the other positive review scores (Which I did not see cause everyone is focusing on the bad one) bolster confidence.

i wonder how many guns this game is going to have, and if it's finally going to include the P90. also i hope for the return of the sig 552 commando. i think out of any assault rifle this one's my favorite.

[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;38431468]On a gut reaction, I was going to cancel my preorder based on the PC Gamer Review, but I'm sticking with it. The trailers looked great, and the other positive review scores (Which I did not see cause everyone is focusing on the bad one) bolster confidence.[/QUOTE] I look at it in this way. Max Payne 3 was a good game even if it wasn't exactly what people think of "Max Payne" to be. I think the main thing in this game is that it's been 7 years and they've went in a new direction, so even if it's not a good "Hitman" game it'll be a good game on its own.