Bethesda Announces ''Dishonored'' - New Game By Arkane Studios
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[QUOTE=draugur;38105239]This game isn't steampunk. At all. Steampunk requires steampower to be used for nearly everything, I don't see steam anywhere.[/QUOTE]
It may be powered by oil but that doesn't mean the setting can't be Steampunk. There's a difference between Steampunk and Steampowered. Steampunk is a style. Huge difference.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38106318]It may be powered by oil but that doesn't mean the setting can't be Steampunk. There's a difference between Steampunk and Steampowered. Steampunk is a style. Huge difference.[/QUOTE]
The whole point of steampunk is that the technology is steam powered. Steampunk isn't just slapping cogs onto everything and painting shit bronze.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;38106390]The whole point of steampunk is that the technology is steam powered. Steampunk isn't just slapping cogs onto everything and painting shit bronze.[/QUOTE]
"Steampunk is a sub-genre of science fiction that [B]typically[/B] features steam-powered machinery, especially in a setting inspired by industrialized Western civilization during the 19th century."
It [i]typically[/i] features steam-powered machinery, this does not mean [i]always[/i]. Another characteristic is it is an [i]industrialized western civilization[/i], which Dishonored clearly shows.
[editline]19th October 2012[/editline]
"Steampunk has always been first and foremost a literary genre, or least a subgenre of science fiction and fantasy that includes social or technological aspects of the 19th century usually with some deconstruction of, reimagining of, or rebellion against parts of it . Unfortunately, it is a poorly defined subgenre, with plenty of disagreement about what is and is not included."
[editline]19th October 2012[/editline]
And Dishonored is also mentioned here:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Steampunk_video_games[/url]
I'm pretty sure I can pull up a hundred more sources. Steampunk does [i]not[/i] need steam, if it did, then we would have a hundred different genre's like Whalepunk addressed above.
Steampunk is set in an industrial era, Cyberpunk is future era. Those are the basics. The rest is usually subgenre's of Modern and Historic.
dude, it's whalepunk, get over it.
Wow.
[sp]River Krusts[/sp] are not fun.
How do I even kill them?
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;38106670]dude, it's whalepunk, get over it.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking it is more like... electropunk? Afterall, it is electricity that powers stuff- electricity they somehow get from the magic whale oil.
[QUOTE=Smashman;38106771]Wow.
[sp]River Krusts[/sp] are not fun.
How do I even kill them?[/QUOTE]
Blade to the... "face". Works wonders, kills instantly, although you won't get very far when there's a group of them. Unless you stop time.
Can't we just say it has a unique style which includes some steampunk elements and is otherwise whalepunk? No need to turn this into a discussion.
[QUOTE=Smashman;38106771]Wow.
[sp]River Krusts[/sp] are not fun.
How do I even kill them?[/QUOTE]
[sp]I usually just cook a grenade and throw in the general vicinity of one.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Smashman;38106771]Wow.
[sp]River Krusts[/sp] are not fun.
How do I even kill them?[/QUOTE]
[sp]Get in their view, let them open, and then shoot them with a crossbow. It doesn't count as a kill, as expected so it's fine.[/sp]
I just love how you can basically go anywhere in the map.
Kill a guard on the roof and dive into the ocean. I feel like an action hero.
[QUOTE=Smashman;38106771]Wow.
[sp]River Krusts[/sp] are not fun.
How do I even kill them?[/QUOTE]
Blink up into their "face" and stab the fuck out of them. If you do that, they don't have time to close up. It only works well if you don't have any behind you though.
I just throw grenades at them, kills them regardless if they are "open" or not.
Its like the only time I bother using grenades.
Just beat it, now I'm sad that [sp]Samuel think's I'm a monster and Emily wants to kill everyone[/sp]
Now to play a non-lethal play through so I can feel better about myself.
[editline]19th October 2012[/editline]
[sp]I feel like Samuel's I hate you speech was really poorly written. There was absouletely no buildup. When you leave the pub he's all 'let's go get em' and then when you get there he's like 'ur a fgt go die'.[/sp]
I tried so hard to play this without killing many people, but by the third mission or so it all fell apart and my chaos rating was high
I managed to ghost past the first level with [I]one[/I] body found and I only knocked out two people, no way i'm spending another hour on that level again
Just for some clarification about 'Whales'.
[url]http://dishonored.wikia.com/wiki/Whales[/url]
it might be somewhat based off of the fact that sperm whales have a sac of highly valuable oil in their head.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;38108809]it might be somewhat based off of the fact that sperm whales have a sac of highly valuable oil in their head.[/QUOTE]
Nice
Is there any way to neutralise the Lord Regent non-lethally? I'm on the tower mission and am wondering how to not murderise him.
[editline]20th October 2012[/editline]
Figured it out, had to go to the propaganda offices.
lol i did both. i'm not sure if that announcement reached the entire city though. i think it did.
it was by accident. i killed the operator guy as per usual then fed it the punch card thingy. then i watched as the lord was taken away. he was the first to go through a tunnel of light i had rewired..
but yeah i think the best course of action (most satisfying plot wise anyway) is to have the lord politically fucked then kill him yourself. who knows, he might slither his way out of whatever punishment was in store for him.
also i just recovered my gear after being discovered in the waste district. how much further till the game is over?
So I'm having a bit of a moral conundrum.
[sp]The bootleg elixir is, well, bootleg, and not only are the gangs benefiting from selling it, I get a nifty little gift from Granny to boot. However, at the same time, the elixir is going to families and people that need it, so I'm not sure whether the impact of infecting it is more positive or negative.[/sp]
Any suggestions?
it's obvious what the right and wrong choices are.
making that choice is called playing the game.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;38109590]it's obvious what the right and wrong choices are.
why do we need to play the game for you?[/QUOTE]
I was asking for suggestions, not directions. Christ man, calm down.
[editline]20th October 2012[/editline]
I'm sorry were we not in here to discuss the game?
okay then.
[sp]letting them sell the bootleg elixer (i have no idea about this quest or did it without knowing it) is obviously going to make the populace more suseptible to the plauge, therefor it's a bad thing to support the bootleggers[/sp]
i mean what is it exactly that you want? because if you want to know consequences we'd have to know every deed you've done up till now basically in order to give you a proper assessment.
if you're just asking for someone to tell you what to do i say keep the trinket and fuck the people.
also i think i'm going to [sp]let emily live[/sp] after all. after seeing the drawing and what she had to say after the lord regent she'd do exactly what i'd want her to do lol.
Y'know, that sounds about right. Sorry if I got snippity
[editline]20th October 2012[/editline]
Also fire exploding bolt, crash to desktop.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;38109645]okay then.
[sp]letting them sell the bootleg elixer (i have no idea about this quest or did it without knowing it) is obviously going to make the populace more suseptible to the plauge, therefor it's a bad thing to support the bootleggers[/sp]
i mean what is it exactly that you want? because if you want to know consequences we'd have to know every deed you've done up till now basically in order to give you a proper assessment.
if you're just asking for someone to tell you what to do i say keep the trinket and fuck the people.[/QUOTE]
It is a weaker elixir but that's why it's sold cheaper and on the black market. People buying it must suspect they aren't getting the full thing. If you decide to put plague in it you turn weak medicine into poison, thus spreading the plague even more (before Slackjaw notices it and stops the distribution). So now more people will get the plague before the bootleg is taken off the streets and poor people who could afford only the bootleg are screwed. But hey, you get a rune for it.
considering em is probably going to kill everyone i already haven't, i don't care to much about the poor poor people.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;38108809]it might be somewhat based off of the fact that sperm whales have a sac of highly valuable oil in their head.[/QUOTE]
I misread sperm whale as whale sperm, great now I'll never get it out of my mind that whale oil might be whale sperm.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;38110143]considering em is probably going to kill everyone i already haven't, i don't care to much about the poor poor people.[/QUOTE]
What's em? And if you are going lethal, than sure, go for it, but if you are trying to play as a good guy that's definitely a bad move (but it doesn't count any kills).
I just loaded my saves right before I meet my targets and I have to say it's cool how every one of them has a unique death animation. Some are very brutal.
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