Germans are hard to play
They are only effective in large amounts
Like a fortress made out of Maus
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;39796653]isn't the T95 technically a super heavy tank?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think its classfied as a super heavy.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;39796653]isn't the T95 technically a super heavy tank?[/QUOTE]
It was classified as such
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didn't reload page.. Only knew because of Hearts of Iron, great series.
Japan had superheavies?
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[t]http://www.agisn.de/assets/images/Type_100_O-I_Superheavy_Tank_Maus_sm.JPG[/t]
Jesus they did.
Type 100 O-I compared to Maus.
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Well, "Had" is a relative term.
[QUOTE]- new "superheavy" tank class - not certain, but if it comes, most superheavies will be re-classified today's heavies (Maus, E-100) rather than new tanks (SS: the only other nation with superheavies that comes to my mind is Japan)[/QUOTE]
Sup
[IMG]http://www.tiger1.co.uk/Dioramas/2007March/intro.jpg[/IMG]
Tier X Arty
God help us.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/rM0SjfP.jpg[/img]
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Early stats from the Russian server
AT master race
Eh, the mid tier British TD's will probably come down once people learn their weakspots and more players reach them. The tortoise and the AT-15 might receive a ROF nerf.
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In fact, it looks like the FV215b might wind up receiving a buff if the new adoption spike still applies. Still too early to tell though.
Alecto sounds like some kind of electric razor.
At least none of British TD's are underpowered.
Classic WG bait & nerf. If you want the 183, better grind through them fast because I bet next patch will fuck them up hard, while also introducing something new and OP as usual.
hopefully the leo will be op, I want to enjoy a new German tank for once.
[QUOTE=Toyokunari;39796624]I'm going to sell my VK4502A, I made a huge mistake going up the Maus line the moment I started playing and dislike all the tanks in that line. Being tiger P, Vk3001P all I dislike.[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed the P and the 4502A. Why stop there?
Crumpet pls come plat
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39797631]hopefully the leo will be op, I want to enjoy a new German tank for once.[/QUOTE]
hahahahahahahahahaha
it'll never happen, and I have the JT, Maus, and E-50M. I want German tanks to be good so bad
[QUOTE=Orkel;39797620]Classic WG bait & nerf. If you want the 183, better grind through them fast because I bet next patch will fuck them up hard, while also introducing something new and OP as usual.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, they've been getting better as of late (bar the T57). Both the Chinese and British tree were introduced really without any overpowered tanks.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39797786]To be fair, they've been getting better as of late (bar the T57). Both the Chinese and British tree were introduced really without any overpowered tanks.[/QUOTE]
I guess the 121 population is a little too low but if you look at it on paper, it's kinda fucking OP.
Plus the 113 isn't exactly amazing either.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39797808]I guess the 121 population is a little too low but if you look at it on paper, it's kinda fucking OP.[/QUOTE]
Ehh.. It's soft stats really aren't the best. For one, only 3 degrees of depression.
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By noobmeter's OP rating, it is the second worst performing tank in the game, next to the FV4202. But then again, small sample size.
The new German tanks will bring a new horizon of opportunities and unique game-play!
[QUOTE=Squad1993;39797657]I enjoyed the P and the 4502A. Why stop there?[/QUOTE]
Well might be because I'm not you. I find the VK4502P to be utter crap for a tier 9 and the Maus is worthless partly due to arty parties at tier 10 and tier 10 TDs. Tiger P is too slow which is frankly boring and VK4502A is like a medium, except it accelerates just as fast as an IS3 and the new Chinese tier 8 renders it worthless in DPM output, armour and might as well mobility.
[QUOTE=Toyokunari;39798166]Well might be because I'm not you. I find the VK4502P to be utter crap for a tier 9 and the Maus is worthless partly due to arty parties at tier 10 and tier 10 TDs. Tiger P is too slow which is frankly boring and VK4502A is like a medium, except it accelerates just as fast as an IS3 and the new Chinese tier 8 renders it worthless in DPM output, armour and might as well mobility.[/QUOTE]
From my vague memory, the 4502P is basically a weaker E-75 with the ability to reverse-angle like a mother. Which makes it pretty poor in large, open maps. It's huge, flat top made it prime artillery food. It's pretty slow, and just generally "eh." Like many German tanks, it'll be as good as you make it to be, but it definitely isn't a tank so solid and rounded that you can play it any way you want; nor is it one with some glaring strength that you can use as a crutch.
Each tree should have a certain map type bias,Germans go to city maps,Brithish to open maps etc
I was butthurt and typed into general chat
"Isn't wargaming awesome, game mechanics that encourage non-interaction are the best, I love spg's"
Someone replied
"no spgs FORCE interaction"
I fail to see how getting shot at from across the map with no way to respond is interaction.
So, when are we getting this damn update.
I can't buy the wz 131 until the fuckers at WG decide to press the release button on a patch that's ready to be shipped.
Apparently Thursday.
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Source being Silent Stalker
[quote]
[B]8.4 undocumented changes[/B]
[I]The first number is the 8.4 value, the second the difference from 8.3. To avoid any confusion, I am using EU depression/elevation measures, not the RU ones. [B]So, if it says "depression 6 (1)", it means "the gun depression was buffed by one degrees", where for example "elevation 17 (-8)" means "elevation was nerfed by 8 degrees".[/B] Logically, "depression 6 (-1) would mean the depression was nerfed by 1 degree" and so on.[/I]
[B]T-50-2[/B]
F-34 gun elevation 17 (-8)
F-34 gun depression 6 (1)
[B]T-54[/B]
LB-1 gun elevation 20 (-3)
LB-1 gun depression 5 (-2)
[B]Tiger P[/B]
88mm L/56 elevation 17 (-1)
105mm L/28 elevation 17 (-1)
[B]E-75[/B]
105mm L/68 depression 8 (1)
[B]128mm L/55 depression 8 (3)
128mm L/55 elevation 24 (6)[/B]
[B]US gun 75mm M3 L37A[/B]
Elevation: 20 (-5)
Depression: 5 (-5)
[B]US gun 120mm T179 (from T57/58)[/B]
Elevation: 12 (-3)
[B]Renault BS[/B]
Suspension M17 braking force: 4500 (-31000)
Suspension M26 braking force: 5000 (-30500)
(SS: this basically means Renault BS stops being able to stop on the spot as if "glued" I think)
[B]D1[/B]
37mm APX SA18 depression: 20 (18)
37mm SA38 elevation: 17 (4)
37mm SA38 depression: 6 (4)
[B]AMX M4 (1945)[/B]
90mm DCA30 depression: 10 (5)
90mm F3 depression: 10 (5)
90mm DCA 45 depression: 10 (5)
105mm 13TR depression: 10 (5) [/quote]
[QUOTE=Orkel;39798951]
E-75
128mm L/55 depression 8 (3)
128mm L/55 elevation 24 (6)[/QUOTE]
Well that's one less advantage for the M103.
Also holy fuck the D1's gun depression. My Maximum Dick nearly feels inadequate.
According to wiki that e75 gun depression was already -8, so wiki is wrong I guess/ edit might be wrong as well or whatever
Me tag and thaar just got into the stupidest fucking MM ever
It was us as the tier 8s, then 2 tier 10s (no T9s) and 4 arty per side
wut
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