[QUOTE=Orkel;39814353]Soo, now that 8.4 is shitting on the 2801, what should I move the crew to after I sell it?[/QUOTE]
Hard to say. Seems like all the fun tanks get shat on every new patch. I still am reeling over the KV-13 nerf.
The nerf to the VK2801 and eventually the other tier 5 light tanks are deserved
[QUOTE=Orkel;39814353]Soo, now that 8.4 is shitting on the 2801, what should I move the crew to after I sell it?[/QUOTE]
I'm saving my crew for the leo
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;39814717]The nerf to the VK2801 and eventually the other tier 5 light tanks are deserved[/QUOTE]
Why the disagree(s)?
He's right. The T5 lights are currently waaaaaay off from their tier, they're about as good as T7s (as far as light tanks go). They need to be equal to the other "real" lights like the 59-16. I can't imagine the VK2801 in its current state going up a tier (and gaining some better MM) against a 59-16.
The Chaffee and T-50-2 will also get the nerf bat. It's just that WG is making a terrible decision by making it now instead of all at once later, because German tankers get even more butthurt. Just tell yourself that later on you'll get this sexy beast
[T]http://i.imgur.com/TUkSM3f.jpg[/T]
Now that's something I can see fighting against AMX 13/90s and wz 132s.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39814842]Why the disagree(s)?
He's right. The T5 lights are currently waaaaaay off from their tier, they're about as good as T7s (as far as light tanks go). They need to be equal to the other "real" lights like the 59-16. I can't imagine the VK2801 in its current state going up a tier (and gaining some better MM) against a 59-16.
The Chaffee and T-50-2 will also get the nerf bat. It's just that WG is making a terrible decision by making it now instead of all at once later, because German tankers get even more butthurt. Just tell yourself that later on you'll get this sexy beast
[T]http://i.imgur.com/TUkSM3f.jpg[/T]
Now that's something I can see fighting against AMX 13/90s and wz 132s.[/QUOTE]
Still prefer the mini-M47.
[img]http://www.bildites.lv/images/sbp4f8rcwtxyurdvp5j.jpg[/img]
T42 (M41 with a 90mm)
[QUOTE=O'Neil;39814913]Still prefer the mini-M47.
T42 (M41 with a 90mm)[/QUOTE]
Isn't it a smoothbore though.
Also look at the M48 right next to it, considering how Wargaymen made the in-game one higher than a god damn IS-2 they're gonna make this thing fucking huge.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39814934]Isn't it a smoothbore though.
Also look at the M48 right next to it, considering how Wargaymen made the in-game one higher than a god damn IS-2 they're gonna make this thing fucking huge.[/QUOTE]
Nah, its rifled. See how its pretty much the same as an M48's 90mm. (M36 90mm) Has the same muzzle break.
How much smaller is the IS-2 in game than in real life. It just seems too small.
M41 could also move at 72km/h. So...fast moving target, might just play as a Hellcat in the end.
rip automerge
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;39814964]How much smaller is the IS-2 in game than in real life. It just seems too small.[/QUOTE]
Most of the IS tanks in-game are ridiculously small compared to their real life counterparts. Same with the T-54/Type 59.
The KT and JT are also hilariously oversized, like most German tanks (the Tiger should be about as high as a Sherman, yet it's something like 2 feet taller).
Then there's the T29/T30/T34 which are kinda small compared to the giants they were IRL.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39814987]Most of the IS tanks in-game are ridiculously small compared to their real life counterparts. Same with the T-54/Type 59.
The KT and JT are also hilariously oversized, like most German tanks (the Tiger should be about as high as a Sherman, yet it's something like 2 feet taller).
Then there's the T29/T30/T34 which are kinda small compared to the giants they were IRL.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of Shermans, is the Panther about the same height as the sherman is ingame? I never really compared. I know the Panther is meant to be a few cm's higher then the sherman.
I remember someone posted a pic of the T-29 in an older thread (or maybe on mumble) and I could definitely tell that it was way bigger IRL.
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[QUOTE=O'Neil;39814999]Speaking of Shermans, is the Panther about the same height as the sherman is ingame? I never really compared. I know the Panther is meant to be a few cm's higher then the sherman.[/QUOTE]
Both of them are about 9 ft tall.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;39815008]I remember someone posted a pic of the T-29 in an older thread (or maybe on mumble) and I could definitely tell that it was way bigger IRL.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there was someone standing next to a roadwheel and it really put just how fucking huge it was in perspective.
I'm trying to find it, shouldn't be long if the .pdf doesn't take half an hour to download.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39815039]Yeah, there was someone standing next to a roadwheel and it really put just how fucking huge it was in perspective.
I'm trying to find it, shouldn't be long if the .pdf doesn't take half an hour to download.[/QUOTE]
yep thats the one.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39814987]Most of the IS tanks in-game are ridiculously small compared to their real life counterparts. Same with the T-54/Type 59.
The KT and JT are also hilariously oversized, like most German tanks (the Tiger should be about as high as a Sherman, yet it's something like 2 feet taller).
Then there's the T29/T30/T34 which are kinda small compared to the giants they were IRL.[/QUOTE]
is there any reason for this, like for balance or gameplay's sake, or is it just laziness?
Well, while I'm trying to find it here's a picture that shows just how surprisingly tiny the T95 is:
[T]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/3279504711_91564d6758_o.jpg[/T]
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[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;39815063]is there any reason for this, like for balance or gameplay's sake, or is it just laziness?[/QUOTE]
Partly balance, partly laziness and mostly Russian bias.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;39815008]I remember someone posted a pic of the T-29 in an older thread (or maybe on mumble) and I could definitely tell that it was way bigger IRL.
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Both of them are about 9 ft tall.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39815039]Yeah, there was someone standing next to a roadwheel and it really put just how fucking huge it was in perspective.
I'm trying to find it, shouldn't be long if the .pdf doesn't take half an hour to download.[/QUOTE]
[t]http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/t30-heavy-tank_2.jpg[/t]
This the one?
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39815065]Well, while I'm trying to find it here's a picture that shows just how surprisingly tiny the T95 is:
[T]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/3279504711_91564d6758_o.jpg[/T]
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Partly balance, partly laziness and mostly Russian bias.[/QUOTE]
What's the tank on the truck in the background? Looks like the archer.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;39815116]What's the tank on the truck in the background? Looks like the archer.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen the size of that gun :v:
It's a T92. 3 really fucking rare prototypes combined in a single picture, really weird shit.
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[DEL]Unless it's a T93[/DEL] nope, definitely a T92.
God damnit time to look at pictures again. I don't trust the WoT forums with this kind of stuff.
What kind of tank is the smallest one in the picture?
[QUOTE=DTKT;39815298]What kind of tank is the smallest one in the picture?[/QUOTE]
looks like a locust
Well since we're talking about historical accuracy and lack of thereof, I guess it's time to pitch my idea to fix the French light/"medium" line.
The Lorraine is doing absolutely horrible in the stats right now, it literally is getting raped by E-50s and M46s (and some might say it's deserved...). There is always some room for buffs (more gun depression/elevation, historically it was -8°/+15°) but I don't think this would be enough to get it right.
What I'm about to suggest might make the heavy tanker in you cry for his mother, so brace yourself :
• Move the Lorraine to T8
• Remove the retarded 950 HP engine, replaced with historical 850 HP engine
• Nerf the fuck out of the RoF to slightly below AMX 50 100 levels
• Adjust soft stats as needed
Now that's the Lorraine taken care of. I'd place it as a link between the light and pseudoheavy line, about the XP costs? Now that's a job for you mathematicians, do I look like someone who feels like adding up simple numbers.
Next, let's add this sexy beast that fits the line perfectly:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QDa7p59.jpg[/IMG]
Just your average AMX 13 with a Modèle 58 105mm gun, now from the small research I've done it seems the Modèle 58 is actually the CN-105-57 except under another name (kinda like wz 131 and Type 62, industrial and military designations). Either way it's a 44 calibers long 105mm gun that fired HEAT as its primary ammunition, with some WGBullshit you can add a regular AP shell that penetrates 230mm or less while doing 320 damage with a 6 round autoloader or 390 with a 5 round.
aaaand that's a Tier 9.
But I'm not done yet, there's a small fix I'd like to introduce on the BabChat
Since the AMX 13/105 is getting the CN-105-57, you can't exactly keep it on the BatChat so let's just rename it the CN-105-F1 (AMX 30's gun) or some bullshit earlier version and keep the stats as they are. Oh and make it longer because the current CN-105-57 looks like arse with its ugly muzzle brake and short length, I feel inadequate.
[URL=http://www.scribd.com/doc/29697085/Notice-technique-du-char-Lorraine-de-40-tonnes-France-1952]Oh and I found the Lorraine manual again[/URL] along with [URL=http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/armania/armor/firepower/Cannon.html]some arguable accurate penetration tables[/URL]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/frTi5Wr.jpg[/IMG]
This is kind of shit I deal with all day. Also, sick photoshop skillz.
I'm willing to bet you encountered him while you were driving the Super Pershing.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;39816051]I'm willing to bet you encountered him while you were driving the Super Pershing.[/QUOTE]
Once in the SP and another time in the 50 100.
[QUOTE=Null-11 Ordo;39816066]Once in the SP and another time in the 50 100.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow. Sucks for you if he was on your team at least once.
This game is so hard for low tier tanks..
[QUOTE=Starce;39816197]This game is so hard for low tier tanks..[/QUOTE]
i actually find myself doing way better in lower tiers
unless you're talking about being the lowest tier in a match, in which yeah
1,208 W7 rating in the past 900 battles is good, right?
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;39816551]1,208 W7 rating in the past 900 battles is good, right?[/QUOTE]
Personally, I would mark 1350 as a minimum target goal, but I have high standards.
Generally though, if your stats are going up, you're good.
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