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[QUOTE=Trooper0315;37147657]There's exactly 8 hostages every time, tie them all down and wait in the second house until the cops arrive, then quickly take out both silently while they are inside, then 2 more cops come to another place (can't remember where) and do the same.[/QUOTE] Overkill has mentioned we can stealth beyond that though, yet nobody can find how.

To anyone trying to do a complete stealth Counterfeit run, I've skimmed through all of the subtitles and see no indication that it goes any further than the second patrol of cops. This seems to be the last relevant stealth line as said by Bain:[quote]You got far without getting detected, but it's over now! The cops are reported missing and they're sending in a SWAT team! The party just got started.[/quote]Every other Counterfeit subtitle after this point is action-oriented. Overkill's statements to the contrary are likely more of their "trolling" thing. They might want to claim there's more to the level than we know, but they can't really hide much from us. We can see everything inside the game's files. If you would like to independently confirm this suspicion, here's a list of every subtitle line: [url]http://pastebin.com/LZxdiwCz[/url]

[QUOTE=Marphy Black;37151620]To anyone trying to do a complete stealth Counterfeit run, I've skimmed through all of the subtitles and see no indication that it goes any further than the second patrol of cops. This seems to be the last relevant stealth line as said by Bain:Every other Counterfeit subtitle after this point is action-oriented. Overkill's statements to the contrary are likely more of their "trolling" thing. They might want to claim there's more to the level than we know, but they can't really hide much from us. We can see everything inside the game's files. If you would like to independently confirm this suspicion, here's a list of every subtitle line: [url]http://pastebin.com/LZxdiwCz[/url][/QUOTE] Although there was a few things pointed out about a secret map with a magnifying lens over Argentina, a really weird deep hole in the pool sometimes. Doesn't help that most secrets can only be found/interacted with once you're over level 145. Also, remember Diamond Heist, if you stealth it and the codes open the Vault, you still have Bain yelling around for you to do stuff while you're basically safe.

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;37147769]Overkill has mentioned we can stealth beyond that though, yet nobody can find how.[/QUOTE] Answer the phones when they ring.

[QUOTE=Feuver;37151879] Doesn't help that most secrets can only be found/interacted with once you're over level 145. [/QUOTE] I'm under 145, could you explain, I thought 145's just get masks and every item (excluding technician)

[QUOTE=Trooper0315;37153275]Answer the phones when they ring.[/QUOTE] That doesn't do anything.

[QUOTE=Sam xD;37153290]I'm under 145, could you explain, I thought 145's just get masks and every item (excluding technician)[/QUOTE] You also get the overkill 145+ difficulty, And there are various secrets that can only appear on that difficulty.

Is the DLC for this game worth it? I'm really enjoying it, and I'd love to get that sentry.

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[IMG]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/938126179212129009/5BBCCD0FA3984365E4D683AB3CCEB7A95689FCA1/[/IMG] fuck you chains.

I've been seeing that a lot lately. Its scary to turn around and suddenly see your teammate contorting like a scene from a horror movie.

Undercover is not fun. Counterfeit on the other hand, infinite amount of fun.

I'm sure this has been established before, but the snipers on Undercover are WAY overpowered. Theres like 8 of them and they see and shoot you in about half a second, and the entire level is based next to windows. Has overkill said anything about possibly nerfing them?

[QUOTE=Sam xD;37161442]I'm sure this has been established before, but the snipers on Undercover are WAY overpowered. Theres like 8 of them and they see and shoot you in about half a second, and the entire level is based next to windows. Has overkill said anything about possibly nerfing them?[/QUOTE] Get a M308 in the hacking room to snipe them, that's how I do it and I have no problems. Dual bulldozers, on the other hand...

[QUOTE=Sam xD;37161442]I'm sure this has been established before, but the snipers on Undercover are WAY overpowered. Theres like 8 of them and they see and shoot you in about half a second, and the entire level is based next to windows. Has overkill said anything about possibly nerfing them?[/QUOTE] I thought the same thing when I first played, but I eventually found they're not really a big deal, just stay away from the windows and don't go on the roof, simple. Unless of course the limo doesn't fall through the roof.

[QUOTE=Sharker;37161690]I thought the same thing when I first played, but I eventually found they're not really a big deal, just stay away from the windows and don't go on the roof, simple. Unless of course the limo doesn't fall through the roof.[/QUOTE] I'll use that guys M308 tip, but it was annoying because sometimes the power was shut off, and the switch was on the roof. Once the power went off so I went up alone to turn it off and got sniped and died. Then the next guy went up and got sniped and died. Then the last 2 guys went up together and both got sniped and died :v:

[QUOTE=Feuver;37161612]Get a M308 in the hacking room to snipe them, that's how I do it and I have no problems. Dual bulldozers, on the other hand...[/QUOTE] I'm telling you, you should have ran when you had the chance.

[QUOTE=Trooper0315;37161797]I'm telling you, you should have ran when you had the chance.[/QUOTE] I should've, but I didn't expect 2 bulldozers though :v: You guys had come back for me, I felt entitled to come back to you.

Tried first world bank on overkill145+ difficulty. Why the fuck are there so many bulldozers, tazers and cloakers in the vault? It seems impossible to do with 4 people.

[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;37162205]Tried first world bank on overkill145+ difficulty. Why the fuck are there so many bulldozers, tazers and cloakers in the vault? It seems impossible to do with 4 people.[/QUOTE] Everyone gets a Brenner, then shoots one of the four bulldozers in the head.

[QUOTE=Sam xD;37161442]I'm sure this has been established before, but the snipers on Undercover are WAY overpowered. Theres like 8 of them and they see and shoot you in about half a second, and the entire level is based next to windows. Has overkill said anything about possibly nerfing them?[/QUOTE] Use the planks! They're a lifesaver.

[QUOTE=Feuver;37161612]Get a M308 in the hacking room to snipe them, that's how I do it and I have no problems. Dual bulldozers, on the other hand...[/QUOTE] The snipers are fucking ridiculous because they don't need time to aim. Literally the minute you pass through their field of vision they've pumped you full of bullets. (That's actually true for all enemies in this game, but it's especially bad for snipers since they do so much damage and are so far away.) Also, dual bulldozers? What were you, on easy mode? On Overkill the other day, right as the Escape objective started, four fucking bulldozers spawned. Four. What the fucking fuck. [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] I'd say Undercover is the second worst heist, worst is Heat Street still. Counterfeit, on the other hand, is probably tied for the best with No Mercy. So it works out. [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] it's too bad, though, that undercover has the best music :(

[QUOTE=postmanX3;37165737]Also, dual bulldozers? What were you, on easy mode? On Overkill the other day, right as the Escape objective started, four fucking bulldozers spawned. Four. What the fucking fuck.[/QUOTE] No Mercy on Hard, 4 bulldozers as the hostage rescue team right after Assault ends. Shit's hilarious.

So, what's the best thing for a new player to level? I have a friend who wants to play with me.

nvm wrong reading.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVZU7ZzCT8[/media] Toolkit needs a major buff. There's no point to take this perk over Extra Ammo or Thick Skin.

[QUOTE=postmanX3;37165896][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVZU7ZzCT8[/media] Toolkit needs a major buff. There's no point to take this perk over Extra Ammo or Thick Skin.[/QUOTE] Well that pretty much proves it, this DLC is a waste of money. $10 of regret man. Also Undercover is infuriating and dumb.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;37166347]Well that pretty much proves it, this DLC is a waste of money. $10 of regret man. Also Undercover is infuriating and dumb.[/QUOTE] Get over it, there's plenty of worse ways to spend 10 dollars. That's like, less than an hour of work where I live. A 12 inch subway sandwich is the same price. Also, that's like, your opinion man. I bought the DLC and I'm having plenty of fun with it. And see the guy below, it's a level 3 toolkit, not a level 4. [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=postmanX3;37165737]The snipers are fucking ridiculous because they don't need time to aim. Literally the minute you pass through their field of vision they've pumped you full of bullets. (That's actually true for all enemies in this game, but it's especially bad for snipers since they do so much damage and are so far away.) Also, dual bulldozers? What were you, on easy mode? On Overkill the other day, right as the Escape objective started, four fucking bulldozers spawned. Four. What the fucking fuck. [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] I'd say Undercover is the second worst heist, worst is Heat Street still. Counterfeit, on the other hand, is probably tied for the best with No Mercy. So it works out. [editline]10th August 2012[/editline] it's too bad, though, that undercover has the best music :([/QUOTE] I was on hard, okay. Not everybody has a super level team to play with. I tend to try to play on normal to level up the new players.

Um guys that's only a level 3 toolkit. When it's fully upgraded it's remarkably fast and useful.

[QUOTE=Feuver;37166638]Get over it, there's plenty of worse ways to spend 10 dollars. That's like, less than an hour of work where I live. A 12 inch subway sandwich is the same price.[/QUOTE] Money is money, and this DLC isn't worth $10 of it. Considering the only thing worth having is the Counterfeit heist, as it stands right now it's pretty shit. Strykr and GL need buff, AK needs more ammo (so does AMCAR I suppose), toolkit is worthless, sentry is worthless (it also shoots walls and kills maybe 2 dozen swat if you're lucky, usually less). [QUOTE=zeldar;37166657]Um guys that's only a level 3 toolkit. When it's fully upgraded it's remarkably fast and useful.[/QUOTE] I loaded up a 193 save to test if it's much faster than the video. It really isn't. Not sure where you guys are getting this info from.