Mass Effect Megathread: Electronic Skills Still Too Low - Games

[QUOTE=Terin7;39918099]Renegade in ME3 is much more toned down... except for those 2-3 certain moments.[/QUOTE] You know what's truly renegade? Allers as Romance option

The only complaint I have about Insanity is that I run out of ammo a lot. It's not that much harder. Also I imagine infiltrators are made as snipers, but playing with a shotgun is tempting.

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;39918467]The only complaint I have about Insanity is that I run out of ammo a lot. It's not that much harder. Also I imagine infiltrators are made as snipers, but playing with a shotgun is tempting.[/QUOTE] ME1 they were snipers. Since they got tactical cloak and the combat got much closer due to level design in ME2, they are prime close combatants with shotguns.

They get an innate sniper bonus in me3, though. Also I am paper thin.

[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;39917998]Pure renegade changes per game tbh. In ME1 if you went pure Renegade you basically stooped to Saren's level to stop him, in ME2 you were almost kinda charming in a weird way with how much of a dick you were, and in ME3 you're a sociopath who's willing to shoot his friends and unarmed civilians in the name of ending a conflict he probably can't. I actually prefer pure renegade runs of ME1 and 2, 3...the thought of doing a pure renegade run of 3 brings tears to my eyes.[/QUOTE] Some of the Renegade options are just so fucking evil like theoretically if we measured the asshole level of the renegade options in ME3 they equal to be about 5 Stalins or 500 Hitlers.

[QUOTE=RG4;39918590]Some of the Renegade options are just so fucking evil like theoretically if we measured the asshole level of the renegade options in ME3 they equal to be about 5 Stalins or 500 Hitlers.[/QUOTE] Yeah, going the full asshole gets pretty rough. Plot spoilers below (yes, I know it's been a year but hey). [sp]- Betray Mordin for the support of the Salarians, shoot him in the back and watch him crawl pitfully to the dispersion mechanism. Krogan continue to be sterilized, Wrex finds out, then you have to kill him too. - Sacrifice the Quarians for Geth support, then choose the "Destroy" ending which kills all the Geth and EDI. Double asshole points if you encourage the relationship between Joker and EDI.[/sp] Shit's painful, man.

I really wish Kasumi was a love interest, she was so funny. Probably my favorite squadmate in ME2. I mean, I understand why she wasn't, but..... man. Also Jack's romance in Citadel made me so happy, she deserved a better ending.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;39918626]Yeah, going the full asshole gets pretty rough. Plot spoilers below (yes, I know it's been a year but hey). [sp]- Betray Mordin for the support of the Salarians, shoot him in the back and watch him crawl pitfully to the dispersion mechanism. Krogan continue to be sterilized, Wrex finds out, then you have to kill him too. - Sacrifice the Quarians for Geth support, then choose the "Destroy" ending which kills all the Geth and EDI. Double asshole points if you encourage the relationship between Joker and EDI.[/sp] Shit's painful, man.[/QUOTE] I've been trying to do a full Renegade playthrough of the entire series (on ME1 right now), but there are some things I just can't do - [sp]killing Wrex, for example[/sp]. Full Renegade Shepard is an asshole of the highest order.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;39918668]I've been trying to do a full Renegade playthrough of the entire series (on ME1 right now), but there are some things I just can't do - [sp]killing Wrex, for example[/sp]. Full Renegade Shepard is an asshole of the highest order.[/QUOTE] Well for that, just [sp]use the renegade dialogue option. You basically intimidate him into working with you, then he comes around on his own after that[/sp], it's what I always do for my renegade runs. The other things I can never bring myself to do are [sp]selling Legion and being mean to Charr[/sp]. I mean, [sp]Charr is a krogan that recites poetry[/sp], how could you discourage that?

[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;39918726]Well for that, just [sp]use the renegade dialogue option. You basically intimidate him into working with you, then he comes around on his own after that[/sp], it's what I always do for my renegade runs. The other things I can never bring myself to do are [sp]selling Legion and being mean to Charr[/sp]. I mean, [sp]Charr is a krogan that recites poetry[/sp], how could you discourage that?[/QUOTE] I did that on my last ME1 playthrough; guess I'll have to do it again. I wish there was a way to [sp]keep Kirrahe alive[/sp] without getting Paragon out the ass, though.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;39918755]I did that on my last ME1 playthrough; guess I'll have to do it again. I wish there was a way to [sp]keep Kirrahe alive[/sp] without getting Paragon out the ass, though.[/QUOTE] Just be really mean to him beforehand, save him, then tell him you did it for the mission and you don't give a fuck about his life. You'll seem bipolar but I don't think there's any way to make an acceptable Renegade run and avoid that.

Just played the DLC. For some weird reason [sp]Zaeed (one of my favorite goddamned characters) didn't show up at the party or anywhere at all. What the fuck?[/sp] It made me very sad.

He should be there...he's supposed to be, anyway. Keep checking your email and shit, he shows up a bit late i think. also i wasn't so mad about killing Legion, ME3 Legion is a dick and nothing like ME2 legion.

[QUOTE=Katatonic717;39919313]Just played the DLC. For some weird reason [sp]Zaeed (one of my favorite goddamned characters) didn't show up at the party or anywhere at all. What the fuck?[/sp] It made me very sad.[/QUOTE]He should be at the arcade, on the second floor.

Unless you didnt do the side quest in normal me3 where you meet him.

[QUOTE=yellowoboe;39917863]"And they're not Reapers! They're Dugongs!"[/QUOTE] Did I just catch a farscape reference? I hope I did.

I tried to do a full series renegade run, but I couldn't bring myself to taint the characters. I've never even seen the Renegade Genophage stuff, because I would never shoot Mordin in the back. Or kill Wrex. That shit aint right. [sp]I always hated how half of the renegade options seemed more like being an arrogant/selfish child rather than being a "any means" badass. That, and keeping in the mindset of being a "by any means" badass, there as no reason not go try and get as much help as you could in ME3. Renegade shouldn't mean you're stupid, but sadly it ends up making you appear that way from a strategic standpoint.[/sp] But decisions don't matter so who cares.

[QUOTE=Arctic Aveng;39915610]In regards to the Citadel DLC, [sp]I just loved how Garrus and Zaeed were trying to secure the apartment. As paranoid as they seamed, they both cared about you. Now I'm sad. :([/sp][/QUOTE] Late as fuck but how do you get that conversation? I'm assuming it's the mellow party?

This was so oddly relevant it was disturbing. [QUOTE][IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/33xfqdl.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Sorry for the different game, but it's still ME related.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;39918626]Yeah, going the full asshole gets pretty rough. Plot spoilers below (yes, I know it's been a year but hey). [sp]- Betray Mordin for the support of the Salarians, shoot him in the back and watch him crawl pitfully to the dispersion mechanism. Krogan continue to be sterilized, Wrex finds out, then you have to kill him too. - Sacrifice the Quarians for Geth support, then choose the "Destroy" ending which kills all the Geth and EDI. Double asshole points if you encourage the relationship between Joker and EDI.[/sp] Shit's painful, man.[/QUOTE] That's one thing that bugs me in ME games after playing some other games. You can be good guy who sometimes sounds naive or renegade who is asshole with moments of psychopath. Yet you aren't really punished for those actions. Another thing is the renegade actions are often very different. Sometimes you tell someone to go to hell, other times you just shoot them. And then there are those dark moments as posted above.

I usually play paragon Shepard who really often is way too bright eyed. Did a renegade run for Citadel DLC though. It was hilarious. I have to say the dialogue wheel is pretty intense. I really don't want to give the wrong signal to anyone. Sometimes I choose "Get back to the ship" and Shepard adds SO YOU CAN SUCK MY RENEGADE DICK HUNNGGHHHHH!

So wait, the Leviathan DLC makes the ending make more sense? So does it explain how [sp]synthetics can never co-exist with organics and will always turn evil, despite Mass Effect 2 and 3 working hard to prove otherwise[/sp]? Because that was one of the biggest things that pissed me off.

They could've gone for something a bit more avant-garde and say something like 'We prevent sentients from completely wiping each other out by preserving them.'

I think it was the biggest mistake to try to explain the Reapers.

Mass Effect 1 on Xbox 360 is a pain in the ass. The rogue krogan are hard, the autosave is garbage (I have to literally manually save my game after each hard battle). It feels like I played for 10 hours, when in reality, its 4

[QUOTE=Marden;39921131]I think it was the biggest mistake to try to explain the Reapers.[/QUOTE] They should have just dropped subtle hints about their motivations, rather than outright explain it in a really dumb way that was obviously not planned. They had it completely backwards. They should have let us speculate on the Reapers' motivations and let us see what happens with the characters and have a proper LOTR/Star Wars style ending. Instead, we got a Deus Ex style ending that sucked. Extended Cut helped, but there was no way to really fix the ending outside of completely changing it IMO.

[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;39919763] But decisions don't matter so who cares.[/QUOTE] The more I've though about it, the more I disagree with this. Yes, your decisions don't really affect the choices you're given at the end, that's true. But the decisions you've made change the universe you're leaving behind and that, in my opinion, is more important.

I wish it were possible to win through the refusal ending if you have a ridiculous galactic readiness rating.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;39921465]The more I've though about it, the more I disagree with this. Yes, your decisions don't really affect the choices you're given at the end, that's true. But the decisions you've made change the universe you're leaving behind and that, in my opinion, is more important.[/QUOTE] But it doesn't really matter if you don't actually get to see the changes to the universe you left behind. Just saying "use your imagination" is a lame cop out. Video games are a visual medium; show, don't tell. The original ME3 ending did neither, and the extended cut still didn't show all that much.

[QUOTE=G3rman;39919921]This was so oddly relevant it was disturbing. Sorry for the different game, but it's still ME related.[/QUOTE] What game?