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Tristana is pretty strong atm with the recent patches and item changes.

I never understood the appeal of Trist. AP Trist is hilarious for pubstomping, but AD Trist is just like a worse version of MF but with an escape.

i've heard she's one of the best adcs again took long enough, she was outclassed for a while

[QUOTE=Flip pl;39902508]thats like saying darius top is bad because of no sustain but yeah i like her more in the jungle[/QUOTE] He is tho.

[QUOTE=DTkach;39903293]I never understood the appeal of Trist. AP Trist is hilarious for pubstomping, but AD Trist is just like a worse version of MF but with [B]an escape.[/B][/QUOTE] keyword and it refreshes on kills and assists

[QUOTE=DTkach;39903293]I never understood the appeal of Trist. AP Trist is hilarious for pubstomping, but AD Trist is just like a worse version of MF but with an escape.[/QUOTE] People like playing mega range lol you can't touch this champs? It's like playing cait maybe.

[QUOTE=DTkach;39903293]I never understood the appeal of Trist. AP Trist is hilarious for pubstomping, but AD Trist is just like a worse version of MF but with an escape.[/QUOTE] she has 703 range at lvl 18, a 90% attack speed steroid and her escape refreshes on kill/assist. how is that worse than MF?

[QUOTE=WTF Nuke;39903311]He is tho.[/QUOTE] ye its not like everyone starts with 9+ pots

[QUOTE=mike55;39903330]she has 703 range at lvl 18, a 90% attack speed steroid and her escape refreshes on kill/assist. how is that worse than MF?[/QUOTE] Her ult isn't as game changing, her passive doesn't factor in until fairly late in the game. MF's speed steroid is arguably more useful (healing reduction built in), has a decent means of escape (Make it rain plus passive), and can use all of her kit without putting herself into danger. Also she has a much more effective means of harass.

[QUOTE=DTkach;39903659]Her ult isn't as game changing, her passive doesn't factor in until fairly late in the game. MF's speed steroid is arguably more useful (healing reduction built in), has a decent means of escape (Make it rain plus passive), and can use all of her kit without putting herself into danger. Also she has a much more effective means of harass.[/QUOTE] Hey what if they are two entirely different champions and tristana is actually more of a graves early (burst damage adc who with high risk/reward) and caitlyn late (you cant hit me i have 703 autoattack range + a 900 range dash + 1000 range knockback) edit: also "has a decent means of escape" aka 1 tick of damage makes her whole escape ability become a 20% slow, the worst escape of any adc in the game

[QUOTE=DTkach;39903659]Her ult isn't as game changing, her passive doesn't factor in until fairly late in the game. MF's speed steroid is arguably more useful (healing reduction built in), has a decent means of escape (Make it rain plus passive), and can use all of her kit without putting herself into danger. Also she has a much more effective means of harass.[/QUOTE] One of the dumbest posts I've read in a while. Complete lack of understanding game mechanics. First of all, 90% (note, this is 2.1 attack speed with a PD build, close to 2.5 with a BotRK which you WILL build on trist) is monumentaly higher than MF's. Also, healing reduction is nowhere near as good in the late game as your opponent wont be popping health pots and regen scales really badly unless you're a mundo. It cuts down on lifesteal that's about it. I'd rather take double the damage (this is around 300 points of damage at that stage, which is arguably more than your healing debuff will stop) over a healing reduction debuff. Second MF has decent means of escape? Yeah, that's great a slow, wow. Hello to a quarter of the league champions which have an instant gap closer and completely disregard slows, or they can just flash/ghost through, it's not a good peeling tool unless the guy wasted EVERYTHING to get to you. And even in those cases tristana has a free semi-flash(it counts as a dash for some stupid reason meaning you can hit stuff like veigar E) which is far better than a simple slow at peeling. It also resets upon kills and assists AND it slows as well giving it just as much if not MORE offensive potential. They both scale off AP as well. Oh and remember how you said MF has healing reduction? Yeah so does tristana and yes it does scale with her passive so oops there's that as well. The splash damage upon kill is neglible in team fights. MF does have a better ult and AD scalings on her abilities, that's why she's good mid game, she'll absolutely wreck a tristana in lane most of the time and will beat her up to around level 16. But once tristana starts outranging her MF just falls off, we're talking about half the effective power, if not less for MF compared to a Tristana. Tristana has over 100 range advantage on MF, that's a massive amount, range scales just as well as attack speed. Safety and positioning is everything for an AD carry late game provided they're built properly. You can't deal damage if you're dead. Bullet time also deals less and less damage as the game goes on, it's brilliant at around level 11 when it has a massive power spike and can melt people. Tristana's rocket jump is nice for burst but that's about it. At least people can't walk straight out of it like they can do with miss fortunes ulti. Seriously.

I've had a massive loss streak now, just because of retards, 4v5, feeders and idiot play. I seriously believe i do not deserve these shit team. I just wanna get out of this silver elo bracket and live my life in gold dammit. fml.

in a nutshell, trist is a very late game carry, and dips during midgame. Her burst at level 6 is immense, then it falls off as all the other ADCs begin to scale. Then tristana hits level 18, gets full build and wrecks shit

[QUOTE=Sprelle;39903962]I've had a massive loss streak now, just because of retards, 4v5, feeders and idiot play. I seriously believe i do not deserve these shit team. I just wanna get out of this silver elo bracket and live my life in gold dammit. fml.[/QUOTE] i havent lose lane [I]once[/I] as elise, ive been stuck in Silver I-II i make as many fuckups as anyone else in the bracket but i dunno, i feel that the games collapse once teamfights start happening - One team either completely dominates the other because of bad positioning/getting caught for the next 20 min until nexus is pushed and gg. Half of the time it's the enemy team, half of the time it's my team. If I'm playing lee or jax sometimes I pick up a sightstone because our supports don't (or buy them and never use it) and I have to constantly ping people to stay out of bad situations like facechecking the enemy jungle when they're all MIA. I don't know what to do, honestly. I've been telling myself that I'm the problem and that I need to improve, but there are times where I find it really hard not to blame my fucktarded teammates. I don't get matched up with many AFK/leavers in Silver I or II but there sure as hell are a lot more people fighting in teamchat for 20 minutes until the nexus pops, despite my best efforts to calm people down they keep dragging it on and it starts pissing me off, so I put them on ignore. silver4lyfe

[t]http://mlpchan.net/chat/src/1363215228954.png[/t] I decided to give lulu a try... was a fun game. Ended in 4:1 surrender.

[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;39904587][t]http://mlpchan.net/chat/src/1363215228954.png[/t] I decided to give lulu a try... was a fun game. Ended in 4:1 surrender.[/QUOTE] it's interesting that both teams had junglers, I thought that didn't usually happen until like level 25

Even if i go legendary twice, i cant get these fucking scrubs to catch up and win the game. Today i went from silver II to silver IV, should i stop playing this game? It clearly punishes serious play with afk/feeders and flamers.

should i get IE/BT or botrk first on MF?

[QUOTE=Sprelle;39904730]Even if i go legendary twice, i cant get these fucking scrubs to catch up and win the game. Today i went from silver II to silver IV, should i stop playing this game? It clearly punishes serious play with afk/feeders and flamers.[/QUOTE] kids, pay attention, this is important this is called a tilt it happens when you lose too much and it puts you in a bad mood and makes you lose even more to counteract this, stop playing for up to 24 hours after losing twice

Updating on the godly Zilean/Darius combo, I've found Zilean/Singed to be even more hilarious and effective, Singed is already pretty scary with his own speed boosts but toss a Zilean E on that and holy shit no amount of flashing / ghosting will let you escape.

Zilean + 2 bruisers on TT is a special kind of hell.

[QUOTE=polarbear.;39904283]i havent lose lane [I]once[/I] as elise, ive been stuck in Silver I-II i make as many fuckups as anyone else in the bracket but i dunno, i feel that the games collapse once teamfights start happening - One team either completely dominates the other because of bad positioning/getting caught for the next 20 min until nexus is pushed and gg. Half of the time it's the enemy team, half of the time it's my team. If I'm playing lee or jax sometimes I pick up a sightstone because our supports don't (or buy them and never use it) and I have to constantly ping people to stay out of bad situations like facechecking the enemy jungle when they're all MIA. I don't know what to do, honestly. I've been telling myself that I'm the problem and that I need to improve, but there are times where I find it really hard not to blame my fucktarded teammates. I don't get matched up with many AFK/leavers in Silver I or II but there sure as hell are a lot more people fighting in teamchat for 20 minutes until the nexus pops, despite my best efforts to calm people down they keep dragging it on and it starts pissing me off, so I put them on ignore. silver4lyfe[/QUOTE] you deserve to be at your elo said nobody who's actually been in silver no really though even though statistically the enemy team is likely to have more feeders, when actuality doesn't follow statistics it's fucking frustrating as all hell. this game's community has gotten even worse I swear

[QUOTE=Sprelle;39904730]Even if i go legendary twice, i cant get these fucking scrubs to catch up and win the game. Today i went from silver II to silver IV, should i stop playing this game? It clearly punishes serious play with afk/feeders and flamers.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sprelle;39903962]I've had a massive loss streak now, just because of retards, 4v5, feeders and idiot play. I seriously believe i do not deserve these shit team. I just wanna get out of this silver elo bracket and live my life in gold dammit. fml.[/QUOTE] Do you play 10/0 every game? No? Doing so would probably help you get in to gold elo. You don't play well enough to ascend. There is nothing more too it. People with a higher elo then you(gold for example) actually played well enough to compensate for their teammates, so for you to get their elo you have to proof you can do the same.

3 LP for a win, omfg I'm in hell.

[url]http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/03/lets-talk-about-champ-select.html[/url] Lyte talks about champ select toxicity.

[QUOTE=Ogris;39903950]One of the dumbest posts I've read in a while. Complete lack of understanding game mechanics. First of all, 90% (note, this is 2.1 attack speed with a PD build, close to 2.5 with a BotRK which you WILL build on trist) is monumentaly higher than MF's. Also, healing reduction is nowhere near as good in the late game as your opponent wont be popping health pots and regen scales really badly unless you're a mundo. It cuts down on lifesteal that's about it. I'd rather take double the damage (this is around 300 points of damage at that stage, which is arguably more than your healing debuff will stop) over a healing reduction debuff. Second MF has decent means of escape? Yeah, that's great a slow, wow. Hello to a quarter of the league champions which have an instant gap closer and completely disregard slows, or they can just flash/ghost through, it's not a good peeling tool unless the guy wasted EVERYTHING to get to you. And even in those cases tristana has a free semi-flash(it counts as a dash for some stupid reason meaning you can hit stuff like veigar E) which is far better than a simple slow at peeling. It also resets upon kills and assists AND it slows as well giving it just as much if not MORE offensive potential. They both scale off AP as well. Oh and remember how you said MF has healing reduction? Yeah so does tristana and yes it does scale with her passive so oops there's that as well. The splash damage upon kill is neglible in team fights. MF does have a better ult and AD scalings on her abilities, that's why she's good mid game, she'll absolutely wreck a tristana in lane most of the time and will beat her up to around level 16. But once tristana starts outranging her MF just falls off, we're talking about half the effective power, if not less for MF compared to a Tristana. Tristana has over 100 range advantage on MF, that's a massive amount, range scales just as well as attack speed. Safety and positioning is everything for an AD carry late game provided they're built properly. You can't deal damage if you're dead. Bullet time also deals less and less damage as the game goes on, it's brilliant at around level 11 when it has a massive power spike and can melt people. Tristana's rocket jump is nice for burst but that's about it. At least people can't walk straight out of it like they can do with miss fortunes ulti. Seriously.[/QUOTE] Having a preference = complete lack of understand game mechanics. Ok bro. The key point here is that even you concede that MF is better in lane. Sure, Trist can be better statistically by late, but if an MF absolutely destroys her and is fed to absolute hell, it won't even matter. Trist can get out of the line of fire really well, but she barely has an AOE impact in team fights unless she sacrifices all that get-out-of-jail power. MF with a black cleaver can turn the tide of a team fight with just her ult. Winning lane = increase in funds. Increase in funds = more of a presence. It is my belief that MF is far more effective than Trist (take note of the words "it is my belief" before you go off on a rant again, please).

[QUOTE=DTkach;39905898]Having a preference = complete lack of understand game mechanics. Ok bro. The key point here is that even you concede that MF is better in lane. Sure, Trist can be better statistically by late, but if an MF absolutely destroys her and is fed to absolute hell, it won't even matter. Trist can get out of the line of fire really well, but she barely has an AOE impact in team fights unless she sacrifices all that get-out-of-jail power. MF with a black cleaver can turn the tide of a team fight with just her ult. Winning lane = increase in funds. Increase in funds = more of a presence. It is my belief that MF is far more effective than Trist (take note of the words "it is my belief" before you go off on a rant again, please).[/QUOTE] Numbers and scalability don't lie. Liking one playstyle over another is perfectly acceptable however, but that's not what your post was about. I much prefer MF's playstyle over tristana, nothing more satisfying than landing the second shot of your double up onto their AD carry. Stating that her AS buff is even remotely arguably more useful is a bit meh, because the main point of her W isn't the AS, it's the healing reduction you get in lane (as i said, pots and the fact that health regen early game is noticable, it's kind of like old kat with her strong W+Q harras). At this stage; I'd still say MF is better though. The stronger early game is far more beneficial at this stage. As well, either the game ends early or the other team starts flaming. But at the same time, relying on an "if" is always a horrible idea, then again, that's what both champs are all about. Tristana isn't going to wreck faces with just a BT as much as MF is, but when Tristana gets 3 core items she's going to roll a 6 item MF, that's just how it works. You tried to defend MF but you picked all the wrong points when you even bothered to compare anything to Tristanas lategame.

You are comparing a Midgame Utility carry to a Lategame high DPS carry. Both champions are nothing alike. Both champions are strong picks ATM. Both champions have a decent laning phase. Both champions play out almost completely opposite in every phase of the game. Just because you don't know how you are supposed to play tristana doesn't mean MF it automatically better in every possible way ... because she certainly isn't.

[QUOTE]There will be another rune page sale in the next month or so. Evaluating bigger changes to rune and rune page prices is on the eCommerce list for the second half of 2013. We are currently evaluating skin prices and will likely have some news to report on that in April. As with the recent changes to champion prices, the goal of all of these changes is to find an approach that is better for players and also works for Riot.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=35554484#post35554484[/URL] rune page sale upcoming why the fuck do we have to pay for rune pages anyway ive played for 2 years (signed up only days after they gave players a free page, fml) with two rune pages and it fucking sucked you know what else sucks [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/iy3i43.png[/IMG]

Massive loss streak into slight win streak into massive loss streak, I hate pulling out the shit team argument but it is impossible to ignore when you win your lane and break your back carrying teams who are aggressive and talk shit about each other for some reason and you still lose.