Karma remake looks awesome. Zac looks even better.
[QUOTE=MrFlashcat;39926749]How can you even tell that, you have no information about AD/AP scalings, cooldowns, etc...[/QUOTE]
Manaless champ with many gap closers and a lot of CC and AOE.
I dunno man, he's gonna end up incredibly OP or UP
[IMG]http://puu.sh/2ilsp[/IMG]
lmao
I swear to god they better give Zac a Majin Buu skin or I will lose my shit.
White pants, pink body. Do it Riot. Fucking do it.
holy shit complexity you're playing so good right now what happened
[editline]15th March 2013[/editline]
COMPLEXITY HOW
HNNNG
Well played complexity. Well played.
Dignitas fed lautemortis then gave up halfway it seems.
[QUOTE=rysunles;39926764]All his skills are op as sheet.[/QUOTE]
Since he is a blob I imagine he'll have low armor, maybe higher magic resistance.
But other then that I'd think he'd work mid or support. Probably too squishy for top. Maybe jungling with that W.
CLG and TSM seem so weak. They always do the same thing,
Zac sounds very interesting, i need to buy him perhaps...
Zac's nickname shall now be "Flubber".
...I now need to watch that movie.
how badly did CLG get stomped?
So uh
Aram queue and map update probably in relation to lissandra.
[url]http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3227822[/url]
[quote]
Hey Gang,
It’s been a while since I first talked to you guys about making ARAM an official gameplay mode, and today I’ve got something awesome to share with you. For the past few months I’ve been working with an exceptional team of artists to create a space that’s an appropriate setting for both the epic battles that occur in ARAM and within the world of Runeterra at large. As a result, we’ve completely reworked the Proving Grounds and, in effect, created something entirely new.
Now, instead of fighting on a random bridge over a black void, you’ll be fighting on the Howling Abyss, an ancient landmark in Freljord where the Iceborn finally overthrew their oppressors and sent them tumbling into the chasm below. As you might have guessed from these mysterious journals, there’s more (a lot more!) our story team would love to tell you Freljord – but for now, you’ll have to wait.
Anyway, work is still ongoing on the map, and it’s yet a few patches away from release but we just wanted to invite you guys in a bit earlier than normal to get your thoughts as we begin to polish it up. The environment team will be actively reading the forum and looking for your feedback, so please let us know what you think!
[IMG]http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/March_2013/03_15_2013_Howling_Abyss/HowlingAbyss_1.jpg[/IMG]
Additionally I wanted to let you guys know that we are actively working on an official matchmaking queue for ARAM and plan to launch it with the map when it’s ready. The queue isn’t currently enabled on PBE as there’s still a good bit of tech work that needs to be resolved to handle the number of players on the environment, but we’re fully committed to giving you guys the best experience that we can. So with that, check out the map and explore what we’ve created; who knows, maybe you’ll even find some surprises!
[IMG]http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/March_2013/03_15_2013_Howling_Abyss/HowlingAbyss_queue.jpg[/IMG]
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i'm very pleased
rumble being played in tournaments.
nerfs incoming...?
[QUOTE=polarbear.;39928870]rumble being played in tournaments.
nerfs incoming...?[/QUOTE]
He was always strong and people really exaggerated how much worse he got when he got nerfed.
[QUOTE=NotAName;39928900]He was always strong and people really exaggerated how much worse he got when he got nerfed.[/QUOTE]
his win rate has been ridiculously high for some reason
anyway i just bought him, how 2 play?
[QUOTE=polarbear.;39929001]his win rate has been ridiculously high for some reason
anyway i just bought him, how 2 play?[/QUOTE]
It was somewhere around 60% in S2, now it's about 56% IIRC. Still the highest of any champion currently.
As for how to play him: Get lots of magic pen early on, hextech revolver helps if you need sustain, rush Liandry's if you're up against someone who builds a lot of HP. Other than that, get a death cap if you feel good in lane.
holy shit that map update kicks ass
now people will actually get punished for queue dodging ARAM?
[QUOTE=MrFlashcat;39926749]How can you even tell that, you have no information about AD/AP scalings, cooldowns, etc...[/QUOTE]
Break down his abilities
Passive- 4 anivia eggs. Their health will matter a lot but during teamfights it's basically a free GA. With lots of shit going around he can come out alive. It's weak for 1v1s which is why he'll be a crazy strong jungler.
Stretching Strike - Damage + Line slow. Perfect ganking tool.
Unstable Matter - % health AND flat damage AOE
Elastic Slingshot - AOE stun and damage. Think about how strong an AOE stun is.
Let's Bounce - A knock up, slow, and damage.
Imagine an engage bot lane. The support was smart and pinked the bush in river. Zacs waiting, elastic slingshot into their adc. ADC (maybe support) immediately stunned. Zac does his AOE % damage AND flat damage. Stretching strike to slow for the adc clean up.
Now imagine a team fight.
Zac slings in, bounces, aoes, slow. Realize that the majority of the enemy team just took damage (depending on scaling like you said), + CC + % health.
He's going to be overpowered.
Oh and he's manaless
oh wow rumble is really fun
[QUOTE=polarbear.;39929285]oh wow rumble is really fun[/QUOTE]
yep they just nerfed him to shit in the PBE
If ZAC Doesn't get a pink skin, I will be severly disapointed
[img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100708084130/dragonball/images/thumb/e/e4/MajinBuuSuperNV..png/250px-MajinBuuSuperNV..png[/img]
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;39929213]Break down his abilities
Passive- 4 anivia eggs. Their health will matter a lot but during teamfights it's basically a free GA. With lots of shit going around he can come out alive. It's weak for 1v1s which is why he'll be a crazy strong jungler.
Stretching Strike - Damage + Line slow. Perfect ganking tool.
Unstable Matter - % health AND flat damage AOE
Elastic Slingshot - AOE stun and damage. Think about how strong an AOE stun is.
Let's Bounce - A knock up, slow, and damage.
Imagine an engage bot lane. The support was smart and pinked the bush in river. Zacs waiting, elastic slingshot into their adc. ADC (maybe support) immediately stunned. Zac does his AOE % damage AND flat damage. Stretching strike to slow for the adc clean up.
Now imagine a team fight.
Zac slings in, bounces, aoes, slow. Realize that the majority of the enemy team just took damage (depending on scaling like you said), + CC + % health.
He's going to be overpowered.
Oh and he's manaless[/QUOTE]
Let's break down Heimerdinger's abilities:
Passive - It can heal towers, wtf? He can just camp near the tower and it will never go down
Q - makes objective contesting and pushing way too easy. He just deploys his two turrets and gg
W - Panic button attack. If they get too close just use this and run away
E - ranged aoe stun? gg riot, Sejuani is useless
R - So this makes him more overpowered? His turrets are healed and they now slow. Good luck trying to take Dragon from Heimerdinger. His rockets can hit everyone on the enemy team now.
Let's imagine the team fights.
Heimer activates his ult, he then throws is E, stunning the enemy team, then he sets up turrets to slow them down and to put the cherry on top, he nukes them with his missiles.
Clearly Heimerdinger is overpowered. How did Riot even let this happen?
[QUOTE=ashxu;39929367]Let's break down Heimerdinger's abilities:
Passive - It can heal towers, wtf? He can just camp near the tower and it will never go down
Q - makes objective contesting and pushing way too easy. He just deploys his two turrets and gg
W - Panic button attack. If they get too close just use this and run away
E - ranged aoe stun? gg riot, Sejuani is useless
R - So this makes him more overpowered? His turrets are healed and they now slow. Good luck trying to take Dragon from Heimerdinger. His rockets can hit everyone on the enemy team now.
Let's imagine the team fights.
Heimer activates his ult, he then throws is E, stunning the enemy team, then he sets up turrets to slow them down and to put the cherry on top, he nukes them with his missiles.
Clearly Heimerdinger is overpowered. How did Riot even let this happen?[/QUOTE]
Heimer doesn't have 2 AOE slows, sustain, an anivia egg, and an AOE knockup, along with an aoe stun.
I don't say Zac is op because of his damage, I'm saying he's OP because he's a CC tank.
I'm not sure how heims w is a panic button either?
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;39929450]Heimer doesn't have 2 AOE slows, and an AOE knockup, along with an aoe stun.
I don't say Zac is op because of his damage, [B]I'm saying he's OP because he's a CC tank[/B].[/QUOTE]
Nautilus
Or we can be better than the General Discussion section of and cry OP on a new champion without, um, knowing any of the numbers or seeing them in action?
P.S. You were being mocked. :v
[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;39929362]If ZAC Doesn't get a pink skin, I will be severly disapointed[/QUOTE]
I know right? He even has the fucking head tentacle.
Seriously. My rage > a thousand suns if this is not so.
[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;39929509]Nautilus
Or we can be better than the General Discussion section of and cry OP on a new champion without, um, knowing any of the numbers or seeing them in action?
P.S. You were being mocked. :v[/QUOTE]
Obviously I was being mocked but it was pretty stupid. It's like comparing an apple to a plum because they're both round.
And Nautilus still isn't as strong as I think Zac will be. Of course I can be wrong, but I still think he will be.
I will play nothing but Zac if he has a Majin Buu inspired skin. Even if he is the weakest shit ever, I will play him and master him. It will be like Skarner 2.0.
Your move Riot.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;39929552]Obviously I was being mocked but it was pretty stupid.[/QUOTE]
That's the whole point
We don't have any numbers, even then you shouldn't judge.
If all of Zac's abilities did exactly 1 damage and only CC'd for 0.1 seconds would he be overpowered?
[QUOTE=ashxu;39929640]That's the whole point
We don't have any numbers, even then you shouldn't judge.
If all of Zac's abilities did exactly 1 damage and only CC'd for 0.1 seconds would he be overpowered?[/QUOTE]
Not much of a point releasing the kit early if they don't feedback on it, that's why he goes on the PBE ;)
If the president could only sit on a wood chair and smile would he still be the most powerful man in the world?
There's a difference between feedback and idiotic assumptions. Numbers mean a lot and we don't even have them.
and you didn't answer my question.
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