Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition (XBOX360, PS3, PC) v6- You were Indicted - Games

Well, now that I know how to summon shit, it was piss easy. :v:

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40011402]Guys I think I have a problem. I really want to get back into this game but at the same time I don't want to cripple myself with sucky levelling and choosing bad equipment. The temptation of course is to just look up PvE and PvP builds and just go off those but I can't help but shake the feeling I'm depriving myself of a large part of the game if I do so. So what's better? Looking up a build and running off of that or just levelling/selecting equipment with a few golden rules in mind? I'd still like to remain viable if I get into a PvP situation but at the same time I can't help but feel that if I go up against a powerbuilder I'll get my ass handed to me.[/QUOTE] have you beaten it before? If not, beat it. don't look up build guides, either. figure it out. you'll do it wrong, but that's totally fine. once you get into pvp and only pvp, even though you don't necessarily have to look up builds, it's not super hard to create your own. i posted a guide in the OP, that should help you a bunch. but don't do it until you beat the game at least once.

no armor dragon bone fist only ring of fog

Man, the moveset for the gold tracer is so badass.

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40011236]He's friendly, go hug him. Most people here will tell you to just level up, but you should probably know what you're doing. I wrote a big ass thing in the OP about stats and where to put them, read it if you want. Then again, it's more entertaining to just kind of fumble your way through it the first time. I'll help you out a bit though. Do you prefer bigger weapons that swing hard but hit hard, or lighter weapons that swing faster but hit weaker? [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] I thought that too, for a LONG time. They're probably the hardest boss you'll face until...honestly, like. Biggie Smalls. The trick is to keep them separated, if you can. The fire one has a smaller AoE, so he's easier to avoid. If they get too close, just run away (unlock from them so you can run). you'll get it. Also if you go human, you can summon Solaire (assuming you talked to him before, but he's hard to miss) and also you can summon someone to help you, although you're on PC so you'll probably just get invaded 47 times. [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] i'm betting you saw the boar. he has a weak spot just like everyone else. :v: good job for getting there already. when i first started i had a REALLY hard time of it, inexplicably. took me upwards of nine hours to get to the parish.[/QUOTE] What if I'm doing something wrong though? I can't help but think that I just passed through a whole lot of the game :v: I went upstairs at the beginning, went through that water duct etc etc, killed the Taurus Demon (I laughed out loud too when I put a "Be wary of jumping off", and when I got up there again there was a warning with "Try jumping off" on it). I'm still with my beginner items too.

don't worry about it man. just do whatever you think is best. mechanics are more important than items 100% of the time.

so im using a black knight cosplay right now shit be cash

I ran out of my (two) curse thingies to fight the ghost ladies down at the ruins, and I don't know where to find more. :(

[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;40011957]I ran out of my (two) curse thingies to fight the ghost ladies down at the ruins, and I don't know where to find more. :([/QUOTE] youre going the wrong way

[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;40011686]no armor dragon bone fist only ring of fog[/QUOTE] No weapons, dragon torso stone, flip ring My most fun playthrough

Also, did you guys know you can actually invade Shiva in the painted world? I gave myself his Black Eye orb and I'm invading him now.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;40011970]youre going the wrong way[/QUOTE] Isn't it the church, then the ruins?

[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;40012051]Isn't it the church, then the ruins?[/QUOTE] no but you're in the right area, provided you have the master key the next area is either the depths or blighttown, blighttown is also after depths but you can skip the depths if you have the master key

if you have the master key then it's easy, if you don't you either pick up the key on the steps of the parish entrance or you have to kill the butterfly, i can never remember either way oncey ou do that go back to the bridge where you saw solaire, and open the locked door. that'll take you down to the lower undead parish, and then you'll head to the depths. normally i wouldn't explain that but that's the part that's super obnoxious to figure out.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;40012069]no but you're in the right area, provided you have the master key the next area is either the depths or blighttown, blighttown is also after depths but you can skip the depths if you have the master key[/QUOTE] But do the Depths anyway, experience all the areas

so yea i invaded shiva "You have invaded the world of ?NpcName? the Guilty"

[QUOTE=Bathtub;40012156]so yea i invaded shiva "You have invaded the world of ?NpcName? the Guilty"[/QUOTE] It's cut content for a reason.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;40012267]It's cut content for a reason.[/QUOTE] i know, i'm just pointing it out

What did you get for killing him?

[QUOTE=Bathtub;40012021]Also, did you guys know you can actually invade Shiva in the painted world? I gave myself his Black Eye orb and I'm invading him now.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I did that earlier this week myself

I'm streaming for the first time right now, if anyone wants to watch: [url]http://www.twitch.tv/nocturni[/url]

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40011414]right but how's he going to be prepared? he's new this game does pacing BRILLIANTLY. i think i've mentioned this before. but the bosses (in correct order) are perfect. gargoyles teach positioning and enemy placement awareness, capra teaches that this game is bullshit, gaping forces you to learn enemy patterns, queelag makes you understand positional awareness, iron golem is easy but if you don't remember to kill the guy earlier in the level (bomb man) then it's almost impossible unless you lure him to the very front. biggie smalls puts all of those together, and every boss from that point is more or less equal in terms of mechanics, in different ways. but not bed of chaos, that's bullshit. but my point is that it's kind of ideal to just stumble your way through shit ALONE (or with solaire) because you'll only have your first playthrough ONCE. don't waste it.[/QUOTE] I reckon gargoyles are still kinda bullshit. Not because they're too hard - between summons, upgraded equipment and lightning pine resin, they can be beaten extremely easily. Rather, because they are incredibly difficult to kill if you can't just burst them down quickly. I've beaten the game SL1 NG+7, and if I have to face two gargoyles at once with melee only, I still can't do it.

[QUOTE=X-Neon;40012607]I reckon gargoyles are still kinda bullshit. Not because they're too hard - between summons, upgraded equipment and lightning pine resin, they can be beaten extremely easily. Rather, because they are incredibly difficult to kill if you can't just burst them down quickly. I've beaten the game SL1 NG+7, and if I have to face two gargoyles at once with melee only, I still can't do it.[/QUOTE] Really? I usually just +5 my weapon, throw gold resin on it, and take them down. Even without pine resin it's still not too bad if you're patient and don't rush into both of them.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;40012069]no but you're in the right area, provided you have the master key the next area is either the depths or blighttown, blighttown is also after depths but you can skip the depths if you have the master key[/QUOTE] why would you tell a new player that? let someone experience all the areas, sequence breaking isn't fun. be a man and experience the depths

all newbies get the fuck out until you complete the game once please and thank you

[QUOTE=dogmachines;40012641]Really? I usually just +5 my weapon, throw gold resin on it, and take them down. Even without pine resin it's still not too bad if you're patient and don't rush into both of them.[/QUOTE] That's what I mean, if you (for some reason) weren't allowed to have high damage output. For example, if I was a incredibly patient, I could probably kill Artorias with a sword hilt, because I know how to avoid all of his attacks perfectly. I can't say the same for Gargoyles. I have to rely on high damage as a crutch, because I can't do it any other way.

[QUOTE=Fingers!!!;40011696]What if I'm doing something wrong though? I can't help but think that I just passed through a whole lot of the game :v: I went upstairs at the beginning, went through that water duct etc etc, killed the Taurus Demon (I laughed out loud too when I put a "Be wary of jumping off", and when I got up there again there was a warning with "Try jumping off" on it). I'm still with my beginner items too.[/QUOTE] Honestly the only thing you really aught to know that the game doesn't really teach/tell you at all from the begninning is to 1. Actually [I]listen[/I] to NPC's, and talk to them. They are few, and they are worth it. 2. Item scaling is a thing. The letters in your weapon stats represent how well that item scales with its associated skill. F (or E? can't remember) is worst, S is best. (goes from S-A-B-C-D-F/E). Certain upgrade paths and weapon types do not scale well with your weapons, which makes those weapons underpowered late game when you have beefier stats. 3. Actually read descriptions of keys and items. This helps SO MUCH with figuring out where to go, what the keys go to, and the actual story of the world. 4. Having "soft" humanity is important for increased resistences and item find. Being human is important for co-op and kindling. Don't forget to talk to solaire when you can right at the bridge with the drake after you beat the first boss. He's hard to miss I think, but just in case you did you'll want to talk to him to get some basic, but important items like the white/orange soap stone (let you rate/create messages and put down a summon sign). 5. Upgrading your equipment is important. 6. Never level up resistences 7. Covenants ("guilds" in a way) are things you can join. Just make sure when you leave a covenant you leave it through Oswald at the undead church first so you don't get Sin, something that allows you to be invaded by Darkmoon and is really expensive to pay off (if you don't know who this guy is yet, you'll figure it out when you get to that point). A good chunk of the covenants will only be discovered via exploration, and luck (if you got all the conditions right to let you join them, darkwraiths being one). oh and before I forget 8. Certain areas will be hard, unusually hard. You probably aren't ready to tackle that area yet. If a place is too hard for you to handle, try going somewhere else for the time being and come back when you are ready. 9. Once you get to the final area of the game (you'll know) or sufficently late I suggest looking up a guide on how to access the DLC area. Guides are bad yes, but there literally is no way you'll ever get to the DLC area without one, since I'm pretty sure the devs put it in the game world in a way so you won't ever run into it on normal play. I think knowing the above is pretty much all you need to know to be able to have the best dark souls experience possible on your first play through without spoiling the experience. While it's great to go in totally blind, there flat out are some game mechanics that are really important to know but the game does a bad job of telling you. [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dogmachines;40012641]Really? I usually just +5 my weapon, throw gold resin on it, and take them down. Even without pine resin it's still not too bad if you're patient and don't rush into both of them.[/QUOTE] I think the gargoyles are a boss fight that teaches you that you can't simply just linearly progress through each fight in the game. If you go straight to gargoyles from the begninning you'll get your ass handed. However if you try and actually beat the gargoyles by prepairing yourself (summoning, upgrading your equipment which in turn would give you enough souls to level up slightly, or etc) then you'll easily be able to handle them.

i did the gargoyles on my first playthrough on the first try without summoning solaire or lautrec because i didnt have humanity. it was a long-ass bossfight

Interest check: If I did a no-healing run (meaning, using the bug to get out of the asylum with no flasks and, of course, no other healing), does this thread think it'd be Youtube series material? Just asking to see if that'd be something people would be interested in watching.

Waiting for key sucks :c