Defense of the Ancients 2: General Chat XIX 6.77c Coming Soon - Games

[QUOTE=Regularjoe;39934784]Invoker gets free stats too.[/QUOTE] not "free" he cant put points into stats so

so instead of actually giving drow an interesting ult (or anything, really) they make it even shittier and sillier asdgdsa

More play last night from a complete fucking moron when it comes to MOBA, found out that I completely fucking suck at Bloodseeker (went 1-14 iirc) and yet am a lot more comfy with Ursa. Any ideas where I should practice? I have a lot of fun with both Ursa and Lich, but don't have fun with squishy heroes like CM

[QUOTE=leach139;39934937]More play last night from a complete fucking moron when it comes to MOBA, found out that I completely fucking suck at Bloodseeker (went 1-14 iirc) and yet am a lot more comfy with Ursa. Any ideas where I should practice? I have a lot of fun with both Ursa and Lich, but don't have fun with squishy heroes like CM[/QUOTE] don't worry bloodseeker is trash try centaur or axe, they're very fun, tanky, and not too difficult (although with axe you'll need to learn mana management)

[QUOTE=Unisath;39934911]so instead of actually giving drow an interesting ult (or anything, really) they make it even shittier and sillier asdgdsa[/QUOTE] maybe he just doesn't want people to play drow

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39934957]don't worry bloodseeker is trash try centaur or axe, they're very fun, tanky, and not too difficult (although with axe you'll need to learn mana management)[/QUOTE] Centaur has shit mana as well. [editline]16th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=titopei;39934965]maybe he just doesn't want people to play drow[/QUOTE] Sounds good to me, Drow is pretty broken in every way.

[QUOTE=titopei;39934965]maybe he just doesn't want people to play drow[/QUOTE] A hero being underpowered is always preferable to being overpowered. Underpowered is annoying for the people who like playing it. Overpowered is annoying for everybody playing against it.

i love how they tried to buff her to make her viable in comp play (which she already was patches ago IMO) then made her so imbalanced she hasn't even physically been able to be picked for months [editline]17th March 2013[/editline] also silencer was recently added to the CM pool, i guess that means they think Silencer is balanced now?

[QUOTE=Rarara;39935044]Centaur has shit mana as well.[/QUOTE] centaur doesn't have a spammable nuke with a 5 second cd and 105 mana cost [editline]16th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Captain Chalky;39935089]Nobody said anything about the Tranquils Lycan, was it that bad of an idea?[/QUOTE] it hurts his mana which is already strained, although if he's jungling he does most of the tanking anyway. can be ok to get on the way to vlads

I'm expecting more people than usual going drow this week, wanting to get a few easy wins before the patch hits :v:

Wow, Razor chosen by 3DMAX. [QUOTE=Harpie;39934736]Am I the only one who think's spectre needs a buff? She's a super hard carry but can't carry like other ultra hard carries[/QUOTE] She is unlike the other hard carries in that she has absolutely shit time in lane AND farming. Her pre-Radiance game is pathetic. [editline]16th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Amaurus;39934798]Spectre doesn't really need a buff imho. Sure she can't wipe teams 1v5, but 5v5 her team is guaranteed to win (assuming she's not a dunce and farms).[/QUOTE] I think she needs her dagger reworked, because all her other skills synergize perfectly but at the same time her game before she starts carrying is fucking miserable.

[QUOTE=leach139;39934937]More play last night from a complete fucking moron when it comes to MOBA, found out that I completely fucking suck at Bloodseeker (went 1-14 iirc) and yet am a lot more comfy with Ursa. Any ideas where I should practice? I have a lot of fun with both Ursa and Lich, but don't have fun with squishy heroes like CM[/QUOTE] Try Tiny, he can be a little daunting to new peeps but he owns hard. Remember to combo the stun and the toss right on top of eachother on a guy to do wicked damage.

Half the reason Centaur is good is because he has a good skillset without facing mana problems

[QUOTE=Unisath;39934911]so instead of actually giving drow an interesting ult (or anything, really) they make it even shittier and sillier asdgdsa[/QUOTE] it isnt a big patch, its a little balance one for a reason

[QUOTE=Naught;39935222]it isnt a big patch, its a little balance one for a reason[/QUOTE] I know, but I just want [I]something[/I] done with Drow. She needs an overhaul, not tweaks.

[QUOTE=Unisath;39935235]I know, but I just want [I]something[/I] done with Drow. She needs an overhaul, not tweaks.[/QUOTE] you're not going to get massive overhauls in a small addon patch

oops that was supposed to be an edit!~

[QUOTE=Harpie;39935193]Half the reason Centaur is good is because he has a good skillset without facing mana problems[/QUOTE] I remember playing od vs a solo centaur. He did not have a good time

[QUOTE]* Tranquil Boots disabled speed reduced from 50 to 25 * Tranquil Boots heal increased from 170 to 250 * Tranquil Boots cooldown increased from 40 to 60 * Tranquil Boots heal duration increased from 10 to 20[/QUOTE] Neat. Those boots have been perceived as the most efficient boots when all your hero was lacking was passive health regen, as it's a frisky bit to get. Used to be Vanguard, but since people realise how much it costs compared to how quickly it falls off, Tranquils became great fill for a very important nieche that allowed for more farm in between fights and less fountain-chugging. [QUOTE] * Illuminate manacost increased from 150 to 150/160/170/180 * Illuminate AOE reduced from 400 to 350[/QUOTE] I guess it's just to have people quit complaining about it. It' still a bitch in lane and good KotL knows how to aim his stuff ,especially since range hasn't been nerfed, but it's being shot by a frail old man that early on has no CC to preserve himself <unlike many other supports> and later on is still tissue-worthy in health department. [QUOTE]* Spiked Carapace duration reduced from 2.75 to 2.25 * Spiked Carapace cooldown increased from 14 to 23/20/17/14[/QUOTE] An intro to Nyx changes I assume. ColdToad said that most of the changes here are intro to 6.78, that will feature a bit more twists. [QUOTE]* Marksmanship bonus is removed when there are nearby enemy heroes (instead of just being halved) * Reduced Marksmanship enemy detection aoe reduced from 400 to 375[/QUOTE] So, we get a bit more shaping of what she is supposed to be. Teamfight carry ? No. Couter-initiation withstandable carry ? No. Ganking carry that prevents teamfights from happening by killing everyone around the map constantly ? Ayup. Yes, she hurts like a biaaaatch. Yes, she gets it for being 6, but balance is not about not having extremely strong abilities, but about shaping one's purpose and making so that it rewards player when following it and hinders him when attempted to be put into inapproriate use. With this, I expect every Drow player to not farm, isntead to focus on ganks (with her ally/allies, she is still frail and will not survive a counter-CC when towerdiving and such) and every player against Drow to always initiate first and do most reasonable thing against perpetual ganks, i.e. start pushing with team and taking towers. [QUOTE]* Heaven’s Halberd's Disarm is no longer dispelled by Manta[/QUOTE] Hopes to see this item used more! [QUOTE]* Living Armor damage reduction is now done for all instances of damage that reduce its charges[/QUOTE] Oh ho ho ho. So now charges are not wasted against spells, instead absorb them. It's like a very weak, but global and with little-to-no manacost Refraction. Sure, it won't eat Finger of Death and Veno/Seer laugh it at, but I think more Sunstrikes will be lived through and in general, this is a neat buff.

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39934957]don't worry bloodseeker is trash try centaur or axe, they're very fun, tanky, and not too difficult (although with axe you'll need to learn mana management)[/QUOTE] Don't you dare mock my favorite hero. [img]http://puu.sh/2iLiH[/img]

Get fucked drow.

Bloodseeker... it's like you're really a Nightstalker that can't ministun!!

Wow, 3DMAX is getting destroyed by Fnatic. Fnatic's Bounty has a Battlefury and their Lifestealer has Vlad's, you can tell they're not being serious. [editline]1[/editline] [QUOTE=Harpie;39935302][QUOTE=Harpie;39934736]Am I the only one who think's spectre needs a buff? She's a super hard carry but can't carry like other ultra hard carries[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;39935162]I think she needs her dagger reworked, because all her other skills synergize perfectly but at the same time her game before she starts carrying is fucking miserable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amaurus;39935327]Don't you dare mock my favorite hero. [img]http://puu.sh/2iLiH[/img][/QUOTE] shameful although I have lifestealer and skeleton king in my top so I can't talk

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;39935347]Wow, 3DMAX is getting destroyed by Fnatic. Fnatic's Bounty has a Battlefury and their Lifestealer has Vlad's, you can tell they're not being serious. [editline]1[/editline][/QUOTE] they both have vlads now

Drow loses 11 armor if you jump her now.

[QUOTE=Harpie;39935372]they both have vlads now[/QUOTE] Now I think they've over-estimated 3DMAX, Razor just destroyed them all in the last fight.

also his bfury is destroying treants so its viable, really unsure about the two vlads though

[QUOTE=Harpie;39935395]also his bfury is destroying treants so its viable, really unsure about the two vlads though[/QUOTE] trixi needs his own vlads he is a one man team

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39935361]shameful although I have lifestealer and skeleton king in my top so I can't talk[/QUOTE] How the fuck is having the manliest hero without testicles is your top shameful