Defense of the Ancients 2: General Chat XIX 6.77c Coming Soon

[Slendermang]

[QUOTE=TentuZero;39942593]Wait. Drow was nerfed recently?[/QUOTE]
You could google 'dota patch notes' and easily find out, but yes she has been nerfed.

[NoShogun]

Okay, FINALLY got a semi-enjoyable match in.

I go Sand King because our random PA and instapick Ursa demand AoE stun. Then two other guys go Spirit Breaker and Lion.

Ursa decides that the forest calls to him so I have to solo top lane Radiant side (I think that's the "hard lane") against goddamn Magnus and Huskar. By 5 minutes I had 11 last hits. Miserable.

By some miracle I finally managed to farm up a blink and midgame the team followed me around ganking everyone and we turned a loss into a total wipe. Feels great destroying some hero who gave you hell all through the earlygame.

[Garbor 0.1]

[img_thumb]http://puu.sh/2j82Z[/img_thumb]
I don't even know how i won against a 5 man pre-made while my team had no coordination and no one knew eachother.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=Garbor 0.1;39942673][img_thumb]http://puu.sh/2j82Z[/img_thumb]
I don't even know how i won against a 5 man pre-made while my team had no coordination and no one knew eachother.[/QUOTE]

matchmaking really likes to put 5stacks in higher brackets or something to make up for the presumably high communication and teamwork

[Sammun]

Just realised how shitty my winrate is with one of my favourite heroes
:suicide:

[Pierrewithahat]

[QUOTE=NoShogun;39942657]Okay, FINALLY got a semi-enjoyable match in.

I go Sand King because our random PA and instapick Ursa demand AoE stun. Then two other guys go Spirit Breaker and Lion.

Ursa decides that the forest calls to him so I have to solo top lane Radiant side (I think that's the "hard lane") against goddamn Magnus and Huskar. By 5 minutes I had 11 last hits. Miserable.

By some miracle I finally managed to farm up a blink and midgame the team followed me around ganking everyone and we turned a loss into a total wipe. Feels great destroying some hero who gave you hell all through the earlygame.[/QUOTE]

I had a game like that yesterday, playing Tiny in the suicide lane against a Huskar, and every time our bounty came to gank I managed to get a kill and clear a wave and a half of minions, got Arcanes and just started ganking and we managed to take a few towers.

Game ended with me getting Aghs and Butterfly and smashing cunts around with a tree, only one who could really do much to me was their Huskar cause of his ult.

[Sammun]

[QUOTE=Garbor 0.1;39942673][img_thumb]http://puu.sh/2j82Z[/img_thumb]
I don't even know how i won against a 5 man pre-made while my team had no coordination and no one knew eachother.[/QUOTE]

I told you, some premades can be pretty shit
It amazes me they lose with that much CC

[Garbor 0.1]

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;39942676]matchmaking really likes to put 5stacks in higher brackets or something to make up for the presumably high communication and teamwork[/QUOTE]

43:33, kinda doubt im on mid/high bracket, and im pretty sure i did fucking nothing as bane and still got to annoy their Night Stalker.

[VulpesGrey]

[QUOTE=Garbor 0.1;39942714]43:33, kinda doubt im on mid/high bracket, and im pretty sure i did fucking nothing as bane and still got to annoy their Night Stalker.[/QUOTE]

you're probably in low-ish bracket

while their stack is in bottom of the barrel bracket

[Maxumym]

Is it just me, or does the new Drow nerf encourage her to get Blink?
Because that'd be the perfect way for her positioning issues.

[suttles]

would refresher work on ogre after you get like a euls, forcestaff, and a scepter?

would be amazing to get a 16x multicast

Also ogre is fun as shit

[Garbor 0.1]

Are the guides broken for anyone? I can't load them in a match at all.

[The Error]

It's a good feeling when you get to commend your whole team.

In other news, my streak of playing heroes I'm not familiar with but seem to just fucking wreck with, I now love Tinker. [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/150849105[/url]
I mean holy shit, Tinker is the stuff. Fast paced with the TPs and shit, and just horrifying burst damage, especially for their Medusa. I just came in and Q W DAGON BITCH!

[Valiantttt]

Tinker is very nice.

TP in, E R and then E again and tp back home.

or spam E in teamfights.

[Maxumym]

[QUOTE=Suttles;39942820]would refresher work on ogre after you get like a euls, forcestaff, and a scepter?

would be amazing to get a 16x multicast

Also ogre is fun as shit[/QUOTE]

The only multicasts you will ever get will be bloodlust ones.
It's a shame ogre can't multicast items.
Quadruple Dagon 5!

[Shibbey]

[QUOTE=Garbor 0.1;39942673][img_thumb]http://puu.sh/2j82Z[/img_thumb]
I don't even know how i won against a 5 man pre-made while my team had no coordination and no one knew eachother.[/QUOTE]

Though the Dire may have lost the match, they won to me for having the best fucking names of all time.

[SgtWoodsy]

[QUOTE=maxumym;39942779]Is it just me, or does the new Drow nerf encourage her to get Blink?
Because that'd be the perfect way for her positioning issues.[/QUOTE]I think it'd be pretty odd to see Blink Dagger Drow out in the wild.

Maybe Force Staff? She has 'utility' stuff (slow, silence, aura) I guess.

[Shibbey]

[QUOTE=SgtWoodsy;39943646]I think it'd be pretty odd to see Blink Dagger Drow out in the wild.

Maybe Force Staff? She has 'utility' stuff (slow, silence, aura) I guess.[/QUOTE]

I've seen "support Drows" who skip their Ult and just run around with the slow and silence, making Mek, Pipe, shit like that.

[titopei]

[QUOTE=Shibbey;39943701]I've seen "support Drows" who skip their Ult and just run around with the slow and silence, making Mek, Pipe, shit like that.[/QUOTE]

what in the fuck

[Crazy Ivan]

Seems legit to me.

[Rockeiro]

[QUOTE=titopei;39943928]what in the fuck[/QUOTE]

That would be a cookie cuter build for a support, providing carries and gnakers with what they need to secure kills I.E. slow and silence to make sure they dont get away.

and meka/pipe to help the team out.

[editline]17th March 2013[/editline]

Also I just got fucking dissapointed this match:
[IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/v49vex.png[/IMG]

[Sp]663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 [/Sp]

I was soo close too, I've let doomburger down. Maybe I'll get 666 gpm next time.

[URL="http://dotabuff.com/matches/150371269"]dotabuff for the match[/URL]

[The Error]

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;39943955]That would be a cookie cuter build for a support, providing carries and gnakers with what they need to secure kills I.E. slow and silence to make sure they dont get away.

and meka/pipe to help the team out.

[editline]17th March 2013[/editline]

Also I just got fucking dissapointed this match:
[IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/v49vex.png[/IMG]

[Sp]663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 663 [/Sp]

I was soo close too, I've let doomburger down. Maybe I'll get 666 gpm next time.

[URL="http://dotabuff.com/matches/150371269"]dotabuff for the match[/URL][/QUOTE]

[del]Fuck that, I got 665 once. SIX SIX FUCKING FIVE. JUST. ONE. MOOORRREEEE[/del]

Never mind that match was against bots. Well it was against Unfair bots, but those aren't really hard when you got 3 friends with you.

[Pocket Medic]

[QUOTE=I am Error;39944043]Fuck that, I got 665 once. SIX SIX FUCKING FIVE. JUST. ONE. MOOORRREEEE[/QUOTE]

If it's any consolation, the actual number is [I]apparently[/I] just 616. You beat it, buddy!

[sub]you still didn't get that one on the dot though[/sub]

[Kumagoro]

Anyone's got advice on how-to-play Silencer? I kinda like him, but I fail hard at him whenever I don't play him in a supporty-role. I guess, given his glaives, he should mid and get some kills as soon as possible?

[Harpie]

You need to roam aggressively with him, he doesn't really have any true disables but can do a lot of damage and prevent people from defending themselves via spells. Basically deal bullshit early damage with his spells with a point in glaives and just snowball after stealing a bunch of int early

[Valiantttt]

Just dominated using riki.
I love how they counter picked me by choosing Bounty hunter but whenever he tracked me I would just diffusal myself and BANG it is gone.
Just found out that you could do that too on yourself.
(also 2 hitting lina is fun).

Bounty hunter ended up being the carry of that team whilst they had a viper too.
(Heart on him.. vlads,BKB and battlefury too).

[Goodwell]

Now tranquils got changed up, how else should I play Axe boots wise?

I've never really considered Arcane on him honestly, despite his mana issues.

[Valiantttt]

Just use Tranquils still since they have increased heal, of course the cooldown is longer and it takes longer for the hp to come in you.
But they are almost the same(more risk in lane).

[Goodwell]

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;39944556]Just use Tranquils still since they have increased heal, of course the cooldown is longer and it takes longer for the hp to come in you.
But they are almost the same(more risk in lane).[/QUOTE]

I mean, after a while the heal it provides is pretty weak even with the changes. Once they lose usefulness, should I swap them out for other boots?

[Rockeiro]

[QUOTE=Goodwell;39944592]I mean, after a while the heal it provides is pretty weak even with the changes. Once they lose usefulness, should I swap them out for other boots?[/QUOTE]

Arcanes and phase are my go to boots for axe, arcanes for battle hunger spamm and phase so i can catch up to hungered targets.