Defense of the Ancients 2: General Chat XIX 6.77c Coming Soon - Games

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;39967474]Anybody else here like building Eul's on Axe? Gives movement speed, mana regen and sets up perfectly for a Call.[/QUOTE] Interesting choice. Also given that it's rather early pickup item due to pricetag, it sounds pretty neat. Cause honestly, Arcanes and Soulring feel wanky to me. Axe wants to use his HP to get in face of the enemies and outlive them, not harass like a little skirt-bearing mage with Hungers over river and Arcanes offer little in-face-ness as well.

[QUOTE=Tokagero;39967793]Interesting choice. Also given that it's rather early pickup item due to pricetag, it sounds pretty neat. Cause honestly, Arcanes and Soulring feel wanky to me. Axe wants to use his HP to get in face of the enemies and outlive them, not harass like a little skirt-bearing mage with Hungers over river and Arcanes offer little in-face-ness as well.[/QUOTE] Exactly, and due to the large cast range it's a good substitute for Blink.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;39967817]Exactly, and due to the large cast range it's a good substitute for Blink.[/QUOTE] I am not sure if substitute really. Blink is when you need to initiate first for your team and enemies have strong counter-initiation utilies you need to disable with your Call. With Eul you do give a slight window of opportunity unless you can time Eul going down and call very precisely. Forcestaff on the other hand, is general mobility increase/initiation when it's not as crucial (*you have initating ally) or enemies lack in counter-initiation. Axe also loves to fight for prolonged time, spreading Hunger, with Agha especially due to Culling Blade cd, thus forecstaff allows for in-combat mobility on top of Hunger stacks. Throw in stuff like Phase Boots and you are king of the dancefloor. Euls enhances that MS advantage, gives great chunk of manaregen for a hero who is easily manastarved (it especially fits Agha builds I think) and Tornado can be used for quite a few things besides 1-target-poormans-blink.

[QUOTE=Tokagero;39967841]I am not sure if substitute really. Blink is when you need to initiate first for your team and enemies have strong counter-initiation utilies you need to disable with your Call. With Eul you do give a slight window of opportunity unless you can time Eul going down and call very precisely. Forcestaff on the other hand, is general mobility increase/initiation when it's not as crucial (*you have initating ally) or enemies lack in counter-initiation. Axe also loves to fight for prolonged time, spreading Hunger, with Agha especially due to Culling Blade cd, thus forecstaff allows for in-combat mobility on top of Hunger stacks. Throw in stuff like Phase Boots and you are king of the dancefloor. Euls enhances that MS advantage, gives great chunk of manaregen for a hero who is easily manastarved (it especially fits Agha builds I think) and Tornado can be used for quite a few things besides 1-target-poormans-blink.[/QUOTE] Keep in mind that a substitute does not mean a replacement. Ultimately Blink is superior, but Eul's is in my experience an excellent intermediate.

self euls + call = pro man's aoe abyssal blade

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;39967866]Keep in mind that a substitute does not mean a replacement. Ultimately Blink is superior, but Eul's is in my experience an excellent intermediate.[/QUOTE] Wording got me. Substitute, to substitute, to replace. Eul as ancillary to general Axe gameplay focused on skirmishes moreso than large-scale encounters is great pickup. [editline]19th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Hellmouth;39967868]self euls + call = pro man's aoe abyssal blade[/QUOTE] No spins :<

[QUOTE=Tokagero;39967881]Wording got me. Substitute, to substitute, to replace. Eul as ancillary to general Axe gameplay focused on skirmishes moreso than large-scale encounters is great pickup. [/QUOTE] Meant it as temporary. It'll never replace Blink completely, but Blink is expensive to get in one piece while Eul's can be assembled quickly and provides a ton of things Axe needs/can use well as we've said before.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;39968287]Meant it as temporary. It'll never replace Blink completely, but Blink is expensive to get in one piece while Eul's can be assembled quickly and provides a ton of things Axe needs/can use well as we've said before.[/QUOTE] More Mana on Axe isn't always a bad thing to have.

[QUOTE=Tokagero;39967793] Cause honestly, Arcanes and Soulring feel wanky to me. Axe wants to use his HP to get in face of the enemies and outlive them, not harass like a little skirt-bearing mage with Hungers over river and Arcanes offer little in-face-ness as well.[/QUOTE] who the hell gets arcanes on axe you go tranquils + soul ring instead

[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;39963620]The skill and item overlays, as well as the Runes through Fog of War is a cheat.[/QUOTE] None of it is cheating, you can compare it to using scripts that instantly make you better at the game with no skill required.

Morphling comeback? [video=youtube;0kQEYzwSUcQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kQEYzwSUcQ[/video] Fuc*ing amazig game, amazing grand final, this game is damn epic!

gosh slardar + dazzle is a fun lane

[QUOTE=dual elites;39968938]gosh slardar + dazzle is a fun lane[/QUOTE] Dazzle + anything is a fun lane

dazzle and huskar is a fine lineup

dazzle + naga siren tried and tested

anyone with an armor reducing skill and/or high amounts of physical damage is good with Dazzle [editline]19th March 2013[/editline] but yeah, Naga nets, illusions, weave, riptide and shadow wave = dead guys

[QUOTE=Parja;39969676]anyone with an armor reducing skill and/or high amounts of physical damage is good with Dazzle [editline]19th March 2013[/editline] but yeah, Naga nets, illusions, weave, riptide and shadow wave = dead guys[/QUOTE] Slardar/Siren/Dazzle trilane

[QUOTE=Rarara;39969686]Slardar/Siren/Dazzle trilane[/QUOTE] [B]OH GOD.[/B] Once they hit level 6 anybody they initiate on is as good as dead. Hell, even before then.

[url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/152589497[/url] I now love Night Stalker. This is like the third match in two weeks that I've played him and every single one has gone about the same.

[QUOTE=Harpie;39969581]dazzle and huskar is a fine lineup[/QUOTE] It's all fun and games until Axe comes along and wrecks your party

Just played a match against a sniper who got nothing but a mask of madness and 3 monkey king bars :v:

[QUOTE=Rarara;39969686]Slardar/Siren/Dazzle trilane[/QUOTE] Why would you put slardar and siren in the same lane? Are you insane in the membrane?

[QUOTE=Tosas;39970955]Why would you put slardar and siren in the same lane? Are you insane in the membrane?[/QUOTE] apparently siren can play support but i haven't ever seen it

Support Slardar makes more sense

[QUOTE=Harpie;39970982]Support Slardar makes more sense[/QUOTE] I did it last night, early game as sladar. Took Dire hard lane, went around the trees and stuned sniper from behind. Juggernaut spinned and we killed him and centaur.

[QUOTE=dual elites;39968430]who the hell gets arcanes on axe you go tranquils + soul ring instead[/QUOTE] Except trainquils use your already thin mana, break to 50 (soon 25) movement speed after 1 call/damage and provide no real benefit except heal, which is very much provided by Ring/VG/Hood/Pipe. You could get them prior to Ring and disassemble boots, but Ring of Protection gets wasted, though Ring of Regen has quite a few appliances (Forces Staff, Hood, Soul Ring, etc).

[QUOTE=dire_luck;39970872]Just played a match against a sniper who got nothing but a mask of madness and 3 monkey king bars :v:[/QUOTE] He forgot the skull basher? damn. He was going the Perma-Bash strat which is fucking hilarious. No, before people get angry, it is not efficient, but it's fucking hilarious.

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39971156]He forgot the skull basher? damn. He was going the Perma-Bash strat which is fucking hilarious. No, before people get angry, it is not efficient, but it's fucking hilarious.[/QUOTE] If you want permabash sniper just get Troll in team and maaaybe a hyperstone.

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39971156]He forgot the skull basher? damn. He was going the Perma-Bash strat which is fucking hilarious. No, before people get angry, it is not efficient, but it's fucking hilarious.[/QUOTE] Do those Monkey king bars even stack? And if they do, do they stack with his passive?

[QUOTE=dire_luck;39971592]Do those Monkey king bars even stack? And if they do, do they stack with his passive?[/QUOTE] They stack with his passive, not sure if they stack with each other though.