Defense of the Ancients 2: General Chat XIX 6.77c Coming Soon - Games

[QUOTE=Suttles;39933545]dk is fine 2.5 at level 1 stun is fucking OP as shit He doesn't need a buff or a nerf[/QUOTE] Please read my post. DK is perfectly fine, but when was the last time you saw one hard picked in a game? If he turns up, he's randomed or it's Single Draft. Which is why I think icefraud school of balance is gonna turn up soon.

To be completely honest, this is the worst way IceFrog could have ever handled Drow. Her ult is fucking shit and she'll never be used in competitive play no matter how much you buff it because she has no escape and can STILL be out-carried easily. Now nerfing it just makes us ask 'why' in the first place. It needs a complete fucking rework. She needs what he did to Centaur: a game changer.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;39934004]KotL only got a nerf to one of his level 6 abilities, so no, it will not help your laning experience against them. They are literally the same in lane after this update. [/QUOTE] Illuminate is the spell who throws wicked 500 damage horses at you. The mana cost was increased. The AOE was reduced.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;39934018]Please read my post. DK is perfectly fine, but when was the last time you saw one hard picked in a game? If he turns up, he's randomed or it's Single Draft. Which is why I think icefraud school of balance is gonna turn up soon.[/QUOTE] I see him picked up a lot in the competitive scene. I honestly think IceFrog balances based on the really high-tier (which is how you SHOULD balance a game).

[QUOTE=dual elites;39933933]change Glaives of Wisdom to steal +1 int growth per level per kill instead get six kills and now you're playing with power[/QUOTE] That's more of a nerf because sometimes your kills can be stolen from you, and 1 int growth won't really do much to add to his pure damage. Also DK is amazing for the current topic, I pick him when my team needs a tank or a semi-carry because if you get armlet on him it's great.

[QUOTE=Rarara;39934031]Illuminate is the spell who throws wicked 500 damage horses at you. The mana cost was increased. The AOE was reduced.[/QUOTE] Mana? Keeper needs mana? Ha, that's a good one. And yeah, any competent KotL will still be able to land that. [editline]16th March 2013[/editline] STOP BREAKING MY AUTOMERGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;39934051]Mana? Keeper needs mana? Ha, that's a good one. And yeah, any competent KotL will still be able to land that. [editline]16th March 2013[/editline] STOP BREAKING MY AUTOMERGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE[/QUOTE] I was mentioning it because you thought of his Illuminate (Spirit form) spell. Either way, it's a minor nerf, and every little bit counts.

[QUOTE=Rarara;39934083]I was mentioning it because you thought of his Illuminate (Spirit form) spell. Either way, it's a minor nerf, and every little bit counts.[/QUOTE] Because I honestly think that the Illuminate is the largest nerf there, dear god you have no idea just how frustrating that thing has been in the hand of good KotL's. It's his only real teamfight weapon (and dear god is it strong). Overall, these are minor, but it's something and I don't believe he needed any big nerf to begin with.

[QUOTE=Rarara;39933909]I feel like Treant exists to be the strongest strength hero in terms of survivability since he has nothing else. He deserves it.[/QUOTE] His ult turns into drow except a str version

picked a lot on competitive doesnt mean its suddenly OP, there are a few exceptions, though...

I wouldn't really consider Gyro, for example, as being OP, and he's a pretty core competitive hero.

[QUOTE=titopei;39934193]His ult turns into drow except a str version[/QUOTE] That's what Centaur used to have.

and it's terrible design, no more heroes like that please

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39934456]and it's terrible design, no more heroes like that please[/QUOTE] Replace Silencers ulti with 40/60/80 free int pls.

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;39934456]and it's terrible design, no more heroes like that please[/QUOTE] lets just make all abilities a passive stat gain

alchemist's skills all changed to an increase in passive gold gain

[QUOTE=titopei;39934476]lets just make all abilities a passive stat gain[/QUOTE] Omniknight; Heal now increases HP with 90/180/270/360 and right click damage by 9/18/27/36 Permanent/permanent in 100 aoe/permanent in 200 aoe/permanent in 400 aoe magic immunity for yourself and your team Degen Aura Passive 1000/1001/1002 armor bonus in 500/600/700 aoe

isn't the only other hero who has passive free stats just cuz morphling and that it's a component of morph an actually interesting ability

Replace Skeleton Kings stun with bash for ultimate power.

What happens if Rubick and Razor use the damage steal on each other at the same time?

[QUOTE=RoastedSagets;39934569]What happens if Rubick and Razor use the damage steal on each other at the same time?[/QUOTE] the dota servers crash

[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;39934551]The Tranquil Boots' changes have left me competely speechless. From a balanced alternative for many heroes into a glorified Tango; a laning phase item for farming carries. Phantom Lancer was just [B]buffed[/B].[/QUOTE] um, no this a nerf to all carries who get tranqs because it makes it even easier for them to get ganked, and puts them out of commission for 20 seconds instead of 10.

Are the Dota servers no longer lagspiking? I was getting seriously mad last night.

Am I the only one who think's spectre needs a buff? She's a super hard carry but can't carry like other ultra hard carries

im still gonna build tranquils on axe the armor/health regen is greatttt

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;39934511]isn't the only other hero who has passive free stats just cuz morphling and that it's a component of morph an actually interesting ability[/QUOTE] Invoker gets free stats too.

[QUOTE=Harpie;39934736]Am I the only one who think's spectre needs a buff? She's a super hard carry but can't carry like other ultra hard carries[/QUOTE] Spectre doesn't really need a buff imho. Sure she can't wipe teams 1v5, but 5v5 her team is guaranteed to win (assuming she's not a dunce and farms).

[QUOTE=Suttles;39934745]im still gonna build tranquils on axe the armor/health regen is greatttt[/QUOTE] Arcane Boots still the best boots for Axe.

so treads on pl now? :v:

[QUOTE=Regularjoe;39934784]Invoker gets free stats too.[/QUOTE] oh and now that you remind me in his case as well the stats are also components of actually interesting abilities and not just outright "here have some stats lol"