[QUOTE=Rollup;39955646]Don't forget tank locking. Keep your T7 arties as spares. They aren't that much of a downgrade.[/QUOTE]
But tank locking is only on the EU server, if I remember correctly, they were talking about adding it to the NA server but decided against it.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;39961782]This could lead to some horrible results though.
I can't touch my T10 mediums anymore since they added the 183 :([/QUOTE]
But, T-62A
and Leopard 1.
[QUOTE=Doom14;39960686]Actually Burst Damage is one factor that outweighs a lot of other stats. Stats aren't equal in merit across the board.
The 122mm at tier 6 is enough to already one or two shot everything below it, and two shot about everything it's tier. Shit is crazy and can easily shit out a 500+ damage shot.
The only reason the 122mm isn't already a complete dominator is because of it's penetration; allowing a few smart heavy tanks and things like the AT series to nullify it's wicked damage and take it frontally. The slow aim, reload and poor accuracy keep it in check as well. It certainly doesn't need any more penetration, imo. The damn KV-2 with HE can't even do as much DPM (reliably) as the 122mm KV-1S can.
Also yes, the ARL-44 can do a crazy amount of pen, even with silver ammo. That's because it takes for fucking ever to aim, awhile to reload, and only does 240 damage. Not 390 (which usually translates to 450+.)[/QUOTE]
Sure, you can't consider all stats equally, some are more valuable than others, and to a degree the value of one stat changes based on others. But, to outright ignore every other stat isn't painting an accurate picture either.
The ARL-44 takes the same amount of time to aim, has a higher aimed accuracy (by .08), and has 20 less DPM. The ARL-44 also has better armor (if used correctly) and can, due to the better accuracy, can play farther back. Although, to be honest, the ARL-44 likely isn't the best example, it's simply the first example which came to mind for a tier 6 with a gun that had one really good stat for its tier.
And yes, having very high alpha damage is very useful and it does make the KV-1S better for some situations; however, the KV-1S sacrifices in other places to get that high alpha damage.
[QUOTE=Toyokunari;39960692]Yeah you say the gun makes the tank, but then you say tanks are balanced when all of their stats are combine, and the hull is one of them.[/QUOTE]
You misunderstand me, what I meant by "the gun makes the tank" is that with a more "average" gun, the tank would be, at best, a below average tank (say with that 85mm it has). The only thing which makes the tank any good (or as some say OP) is the gun it has, or rather the alpha the gun has, because all of the guns other stats are bad as well.
It is because of the alpha of the gun all of the other stats are so poor or average. Thus, by simply looking at the gun's stats, when compared to other guns of the tier, it's easy to say "hey, that's so OP", because you're comparing stats without the important context of the rest of the tank they go along with.
So, while "the gun makes the tank [any good]" in the case of the KV-1S, the tank is still balanced by its other stats, as the gun's alpha doesn't outweigh the many other downsides.
I hope that clarifies what I was saying.
[editline]18th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Wiseman400;39962032]But tank locking is only on the EU server, if I remember correctly, they were talking about adding it to the NA server but decided against it.[/QUOTE]
Last I've seen they will be "testing" it sometime after the NA CW event is over (which ended over a week ago, so...).
[url=http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/200764-tank-locking-soon/page__pid__3645104#entry3645104]Source[/url]
[QUOTE=Why485;39960811]I've always wondered what the Caernarvon and Conqueror look like. I know they both don't have great armor but I'm curious what the actual numbers are. Especially the Caernarvon 2nd turret. It's pretty inconsistent on the things it will sometimes bounce.[/QUOTE]
Sorry for the delays, lad. Was busy for a bit. Here's the front and side models of both; elited. I'm not gonna bother with the back since I figure that's not that important.
[t]http://i46.tinypic.com/1zccs3r.png[/t]
Except it doesn't, since the 1S is still zippy enough to get around your own tank and it has enough armour to bullshit ding a lot of the same tier guns, as well as trademark black hole russian tracks. Since the 1s doesn't snipe, it doesn't matter that much about accuracy and it has enough pen that it doesn't matter where it hits you, it's going to do damage.
Trust me, when the KV-1S is top tank, everyone below is shat upon unless like, 5 of your tanks swarm it. Every 1 on 1 fight with it, you will lose, no question.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;39962212]
Last I've seen they will be "testing" it sometime after the NA CW event is over (which ended over a week ago, so...).
[url=http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/200764-tank-locking-soon/page__pid__3645104#entry3645104]Source[/url][/QUOTE]
Considering how it didn't go through last time they talked about it, I got my doubts about it being implemented at all.
All it would do is to hurt smaller clans that only got one tier 10 per player or so.
If they ever were to implement tank locking they would have to put up tier limits on clan wars provinces for it to make any sense.
[QUOTE=Doom14;39962287]Sorry for the delays, lad. Was busy for a bit. Here's the front and side models of both; elited. I'm not gonna bother with the back since I figure that's not that important.
[t]http://i46.tinypic.com/1zccs3r.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Man that top armor is really thin. A 200mm mantlet explains where some of those shells go when the turret eats them. It's also weird that the hull of the Conqueror gets thinner for no apparent reason when they share the same hull. Thanks for the pictures.
Can anyone post frontal/back armor schemes for IS-3?
Artillery always targets the JT8.8.
It gets really fucking annoying because it is slow and huge
best light tank in usa tech tree?.i am currently grinding towards M5-stuart,M3-stuart is uh!
I have a tier 2 American light and a tier 2 Russian . Add me, Rangergxi. :p
[QUOTE=Grahul1;39962867]best light tank in usa tech tree?.i am currently grinding towards M5-stuart,M3-stuart is uh![/QUOTE]
chaffee is great
M5 sucks bawls
[QUOTE=acidcj;39962819]
IS-3[/QUOTE]
Those god damn falseboard sides.
Also wow, that thing has a fuckton of armor groups compared to say, the 50B.
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;39962781]The JT8.8 is slow and huge.
It gets really fucking annoying because artillery always targets it[/QUOTE]
interchangeable :D
I love when people ram my tog.
they always die from it.
well that was late.
[QUOTE]Victory!
Battle: Widepark March 18, 2013 9:04:12 PM
Vehicle: AT 7
Experience received: 2,904 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 38,380
Battle Achievements: Steel Wall, Spartan[/QUOTE]
[quote]
Researched:
AT 15 researched. Undistributed experience spent: 92000. Free Experience spent: 0.[/quote]
Nice note to end the AT-7 on.
[editline]18th March 2013[/editline]
Speaking of which
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ITKUQGHDnc[/media]
The D1 is fun.
[quote]Draw
Battle: Mountain Pass Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:37:08 AM
Vehicle: Jagdtiger
Experience received: 1,395
Credits received: 84,768
Battle Achievements: Steel Wall, Sniper[/quote]
5 kills
8,100 damage
team draws
[editline]19th March 2013[/editline]
biggest shit team i've seen during my time in tanks
[h2]If you left FP or are in FP with a Tier 10 or a Tier 9 (or T7 arty) and you wish to participate in CW then join this clan[/h2]
[url=http://worldoftanks.com/community/clans/1000008484-FPFP/#wot&mt_order_by=role]Facepunch Fashion Police[/url]
I will be joining the clan tomorrow since my clan actions will not be re enabled until around 1:00 in the morning.
God dammit I wish I had Tier 9 and 10 tanks, but the closet thing I have is the Lowe and Ferdinand. The former of which I only keep is because it's a gift shop tank and it's my only premium tank.
[T]http://i.imgur.com/AMuyR6I.jpg?1?7776[/T]
Killed almost the same amount on their team for the last three battles. God we're a bunch of winners.
:suicide:
The T32 is a steaming pile of horseshit when stock.
Turns as slow as a fucking T-150, armor is nonexistant and the gun is inadequate on a slow piece of shit like this.
I REALLY hope this is gonna be worth it.
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/560969538483905832/5A32F6F9998C64962F35920DAE8BFAC7681DC370/[/t]
Fuckin' Valentine's stock gun rocks. I actually almost ran out of ammo.
[QUOTE=Calkkuna;39965071]The T32 is a steaming pile of horseshit when stock.
Turns as slow as a fucking T-150, armor is nonexistant and the gun is inadequate on a slow piece of shit like this.
I REALLY hope this is gonna be worth it.[/QUOTE]
You're judging tank by how it is stock; very very very few tanks are even average stock, the Tiger II is about the only goodish stock tank I can think of.
That said, the T32 is worth it.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;39965129]You're judging tank by how it is stock; very very very few tanks are even average stock, the Tiger II is about the only goodish stock tank I can think of.
That said, the T32 is worth it.[/QUOTE]
It's just infurating to drive a slow tank that can't do anything special in matches, thus I gain a measly amount of XP. Sidescraping also seems fucking useless, a stock E-75 penned my side in a ridiculous angle.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NAViryo.jpg[/IMG]
My best round in a while. 3 kills and 1828 xp not double.
6th loss in a row with the T32, retarded teams are not helping.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;39965129]You're judging tank by how it is stock; very very very few tanks are even average stock, the Tiger II is about the only goodish stock tank I can think of.
That said, the T32 is worth it.[/QUOTE]
Before I had the 128mm, the Ferdinand had a pretty good stock grind when I went through it although I hear it's a different story now with the new MM.
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