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the first boss was way easier than i thought he was going to be the first time i fought him if you have turpentine he is super easy

I love this game. Just got it a few days ago.

It seems that the odds are always mega stacked against me whenever I think about doing pvp, it doesn't matter the scenario. I tried my hand at being a BP earlier and I invaded a game with 2 blue phantoms helping the guy and two more cases of invading solo NG+ characters (this char is level 46 :( and they had endgame weapons and armor) Then I tried my hand at being the human and fighting the black phantoms as they came, stood there with my 2 handed and magic weapon, here comes a rolling NG+ platemailed guy with a dragon shotel and dark silver shield. I died in 3 hits -.- It's like the match making is completely wacked.

[QUOTE=Almighty;19843282]It seems that the odds are always mega stacked against me whenever I think about doing pvp, it doesn't matter the scenario. I tried my hand at being a BP earlier and I invaded a game with 2 blue phantoms helping the guy and two more cases of invading solo NG+ characters (this char is level 46 :( and they had endgame weapons and armor) Then I tried my hand at being the human and fighting the black phantoms as they came, stood there with my 2 handed and magic weapon, here comes a rolling NG+ platemailed guy with a dragon shotel and dark silver shield. I died in 3 hits -.- It's like the match making is completely wacked.[/QUOTE] Rule #1 - Dodge. Rule #2 - Be quick Rule #3 - Be aggressive, but not overly so. Rule #4 - See Rule #1 Overall just be patient with your attacks, try to lure your enemy into doing heavy attacks so they're left vulnerable to a backstab or spell.

[QUOTE=Specter;19844031]Rule #1 - Dodge. Rule #2 - Be quick Rule #3 - Be aggressive, but not overly so. Rule #4 - See Rule #1 Overall just be patient with your attacks, try to lure your enemy into doing heavy attacks so they're left vulnerable to a backstab or spell.[/QUOTE] I just need to find a special way of being uber gay when I win. Thats how you win, isn't it? You find a gay way of winning and then abuse it. Be it scraping spear and shield, ridiculous regen, plagued/poison shotel etc. Edit : it's not like I can't best these guys as far as attacking and dodging goes, they just have some get out clause.

[QUOTE=Almighty;19844512]I just need to find a special way of being uber gay when I win. Thats how you win, isn't it? You find a gay way of winning and then abuse it. Be it scraping spear and shield, ridiculous regen, plagued/poison shotel etc.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic. Granted there's a good number of ways to lame your way to victory but it feels awesome to win against someone legitimately, especially if they're using a lame method. For instance, I play a magician who wears light armor, a shield, and a crescent falchion + 4. I keep my weight under 50% of encumbrance so I can dodge around super quick. This method makes most attacks worthless as I'm able to dodge most everything and due to the amount of Endurance I had to build up to carry the armor lightly I can attack six (6!) times in a row without stopping and still being able to dodge afterward.

[QUOTE=Specter;19844741]I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic. Granted there's a good number of ways to lame your way to victory but it feels awesome to win against someone legitimately, especially if they're using a lame method. For instance, I play a magician who wears light armor, a shield, and a crescent falchion + 4. I keep my weight under 50% of encumbrance so I can dodge around super quick. This method makes most attacks worthless as I'm able to dodge most everything and due to the amount of Endurance I had to build up to carry the armor lightly I can attack six (6!) times in a row without stopping and still being able to dodge afterward.[/QUOTE] Lol, btw when I said "the way [I]you [/I]win", I was using the 'royal you' and not meaning you specifically :p I do alright on my level 106 mage in sage freke/saints gear with blueblood sword and dark silver shield with light weapon. About 300-350 per fast attack, almost a guarantee'd kill 1v1, but that's not the character i'm using atm. I'm using a level 46 female knight with binded/leather with 32 in strength using the meat cleaver 2 handed with offhand catalyst for magic weapon (sometimes using adjudicators shield). I've keep getting put up against people that have 2-3 shotted me through blocking and[I] it's a little bit annoying[/I]. [editline]07:29PM[/editline] Also : [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXA8GXXGWAY[/media] Youtube'd demon's souls pvp and look at how much health that guy has :O

[QUOTE=Almighty;19844878] [editline]07:29PM[/editline] Also : [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXA8GXXGWAY[/media] Youtube'd demon's souls pvp and look at how much health that guy has :O[/QUOTE] They fight like women

[QUOTE=Almighty;19844878] Also : [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXA8GXXGWAY[/media] Youtube'd demon's souls pvp and look at how much health that guy has :O[/QUOTE] God that video was incredibly boring..

[QUOTE=Skwee;19846172]God that video was incredibly boring..[/QUOTE] was thinking the same.

[QUOTE=Pinut;19846518]was thinking the same.[/QUOTE] I was really only showing the health bar, lol. It was very dull. I did a load of fights earlier on my mage, noticing a common trend in the people that beat me : all had 2 handed axes, specifically, the [I]same[/I] two handed axe. They only ever use the roll and stab the floor move and hit you for a lot from the AoE you can't block. Now, I don't have a high level version of this axe, so I just used the dozer axe and enchanted it with light weapon. This combined with acid cloud let me win a few, but it's a shame the only way to beat this tactic is to also use the same tactic. Any ideas facepunch?

[QUOTE=Almighty;19850606]I was really only showing the health bar, lol. It was very dull. I did a load of fights earlier on my mage, noticing a common trend in the people that beat me : all had 2 handed axes, specifically, the [I]same[/I] two handed axe. They only ever use the roll and stab the floor move and hit you for a lot from the AoE you can't block. Now, I don't have a high level version of this axe, so I just used the dozer axe and enchanted it with light weapon. This combined with acid cloud let me win a few, but it's a shame the only way to beat this tactic is to also use the same tactic. Any ideas facepunch?[/QUOTE] time a good god's wrath maybe. I've never seen anyone using 2 handed axes personally, I assume the move is somewhat similar to the DBS roll move as it does the same as you explained, try to hit them when they're rolling at you to do the move.

[QUOTE=Pinut;19860344]time a good god's wrath maybe. I've never seen anyone using 2 handed axes personally, I assume the move is somewhat similar to the DBS roll move as it does the same as you explained, try to hit them when they're rolling at you to do the move.[/QUOTE] I'll have to get some practice in on that, if it works then i'll get critical damage on them, but if I mess it up then they get critical damage on me. It's hard to judge how good acid cloud is. The only thing it seems to have done so far is make my enemies run away and start trying to use items...I think that mean it worked? Not that they get a chance to use items excactly...*ker-plough*

[QUOTE=Almighty;19860938]I'll have to get some practice in on that, if it works then i'll get critical damage on them, but if I mess it up then they get critical damage on me. It's hard to judge how good acid cloud is. The only thing it seems to have done so far is make my enemies run away and start trying to use items...I think that mean it worked? Not that they get a chance to use items excactly...*ker-plough*[/QUOTE] Acid cloud and scraping spear is annoying to people if you can pull it off, usually ends up making people run away to attempt to repair or fight more aggresively. I'm doing alright with gods wrath and a +5 blessed mirdan 2handed in pvp, its usually 2-3 hitting people and if people play way too defensive, I swap to the large sword of moonlight and play agressive.

Ordered this a couple days ago online, hope it comes in the mail soon. It looks like a blast.

[QUOTE=Pinut;19865855]Acid cloud and scraping spear is annoying to people if you can pull it off, usually ends up making people run away to attempt to repair or fight more aggresively.[/QUOTE] Lol, a guy earlier pulled out storm ruler, 1 hit with acid cloud and switches it back out again instantly.

FYI, the meat cleaver and great axe both have the same move set. Try the mirdan hammer though. It has fantastic reach and when you're attacking someone, they can't recover until you stop your assault.

[QUOTE=Sykomancer;19869142]when you're attacking someone, they can't recover until you stop your assault.[/QUOTE] People can dodge. Those weapons are so big and slow you get a very long time to step two inches to the side.

Wow. The dirty colossus is easy as hell if you've got a lot of health and the flame toss spell.

[QUOTE=SamPerson123;19886433]Wow. The dirty colossus is easy as hell if you've got a lot of health and the flame toss spell.[/QUOTE] I had an easy enough time with my thief... just walk up to him and start whacking away... I only had to dodge and I got through with pretty minimal damage... Add black turpentine and...

[QUOTE=SamPerson123;19886433]Wow. The dirty colossus is easy as hell if you've got a lot of health and the flame toss spell.[/QUOTE] All world 5 bosses are a joke

[QUOTE=Pinut;19887165]All world 5 bosses are a joke[/QUOTE] Yeah but the unforgivingness of the levels makes up for it, it's a nice balence.

[QUOTE=Specter;19879024]People can dodge. Those weapons are so big and slow you get a very long time to step two inches to the side.[/QUOTE] I couldn't move at all when someone was wailing on me with one. We're talking two hands here, right?

[QUOTE=Sykomancer;19896646]I couldn't move at all when someone was wailing on me with one. We're talking two hands here, right?[/QUOTE] I'm talking about not getting hit by it in the first place. [editline]09:46AM[/editline] Also, I finally beat old king Allant last night! Only one problem, I never killed the bosses of world 5. (Still on 5-2) so I can't goto NG+ yet. Oh well, maybe tonight.

[QUOTE=Specter;19896981]Also, I finally beat old king Allant last night! Only one problem, I never killed the bosses of world 5. (Still on 5-2) so I can't goto NG+ yet. Oh well, maybe tonight.[/QUOTE] [I]Real demon's souls starts here...[/I]

[QUOTE=Almighty;19898593][I]Real demon's souls starts here...[/I][/QUOTE] You feel real badass killing flamelurker on NG+ with melee only. Not many games feel so satisfying.

[QUOTE=Pinut;19899346]You feel real badass killing flamelurker on NG+ with melee only. Not many games feel so satisfying.[/QUOTE] I honestly had no problem with flamelurker. He didn't even hit me once. I don't know why everyone complains about him. Old Hero too, first try and without any phantoms.

[QUOTE=Specter;19899663]I honestly had no problem with flamelurker. He didn't even hit me once. I don't know why everyone complains about him. Old Hero too, first try and without any phantoms.[/QUOTE] I don't know really, he's just the first challenging if not only boss for me.

[QUOTE=Pinut;19899346]You feel real badass killing flamelurker on NG+ with melee only. Not many games feel so satisfying.[/QUOTE] I think everyone should make a concerted effort to complete each boss properly at least once. People glitching flamelurker makes me cry :( Not gotten round to killing him in NG+ yet but killed him twice in two different ways in standard game now.

[QUOTE=Pinut;19899694]I don't know really, he's just the first challenging if not only boss for me.[/QUOTE] I had a little challenge with maneater. Not really due to him as much as the level layout though. He kept knocking me off of the ledges.