The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim "And your beard's beard has beards too" - Games

inb4 Bethesda unveils the "Aquamancer" skill :v:

[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;27708128]Then thou has not played Broken Steel. Go fight an albino Radscorpion, or a super mutant overlord.[/QUOTE] Bullet sponges. This exactly what they shouldn't do in Skyrim. Rather than making the new enemies genuinely difficult, they just gave them absurd amounts of health. I would have liked it if they had "dirty fighting" enemies eg, if they are outmatched by you, they run around a corner and plant as frag mine, then stimpak themselves while you are running towards their trap. Most enemies never made good use of frag mines, frag grenades, nor do they try to cripple your limbs. Albiet, obviously this would play out differently in Skyrim since it's not fallout, but "difficult" enemies should parry your strikes, make good use of blocking, etc. Of course, high level enemies should still have a lot of health and killing power, but they should also fight better right off the bat. [editline]28th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=imadaman;27717865]inb4 Bethesda unveils the "Aquamancer" skill :v:[/QUOTE] Jokes aside, it would be cool if you could use Telekinesis on water, or freeze water with magic and pick up a slab of ice to throw at somebody. I always felt that TES was lacking in the elements, you should be able to throw rocks and boulders boulders at people, or cause landslides to crush opponents. [editline]28th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=rnate;27717217]Why all the hate on the dungeon system? Do you guys really go back to dungeons you've already visited? I never do.[/QUOTE] What does this have to do with anything? Your logic confounds me :psyduck: Why not just make it so dungeons [B]disappear[/B] after you've visited them, seeing as you *probably* won't go back anyways? I can see Bethesda now: "There's an idea! Since people *might* not go back to dungeons, lets just implement an arbitrarily stupid dungeon system. We could [I]just as easily[/I] implement a better system, but that would make sense." I'd actually prefer a dungeon system that levels with you (like Oblivion) over the new Skyrim system, at least then there's some reason and some challenge to going back to dungeons. But what I'd like the most is the classic system, which is inarguably the best, where enemies and loot are what they are, in which dungeons have a pre-set level, and some loot and monsters are placed manually.

There better be mini bosses at the end of some dungeons

I hope this game has realistic beard-growing physics

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;27707420]Who the fuck plays Oblivion vanilla on the PC?[/QUOTE] Hopefully everyone at least once. You honestly heavily mod a game on your first playthrough?

[QUOTE=imaguy;27719641]Hopefully everyone at least once. You honestly heavily mod a game on your first playthrough?[/QUOTE] Boing boing boing :q: I played through it vanilla once, modded later.

[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;27717699]I found the "flowing water" part interesting. It would be awesome to see some new water physics elements in games- let alone TES-- even moreso if we could interact and manipulate the water.[/QUOTE] I'd like to see water flow around your character/objects you put in water. For example waterfalls, standing underneath it you can see it go around your character, same if for example you held a sword underneath it. Although it would probably be too much to ask for really.

Is Skyrim going to be as graphic intensive as Crysis is? :smithicide:

[QUOTE=GetBent;27720838]I'd like to see water flow around your character/objects you put in water. For example waterfalls, standing underneath it you can see it go around your character, same if for example you held a sword underneath it. Although it would probably be too much to ask for really.[/QUOTE] As great as it sounds, I think it be too much to be put in game. I really hope the environment just looks great. Along with everything else.

[QUOTE=EBS-Gamer;27720984]Is Skyrim going to be as graphic intensive as Crysis is? :smithicide:[/QUOTE] Uh... 1) Crysis is pretty well optimized, and was made to play on a PC, so that's not a very good example 2) Skyrim is a multiplatform game, so it won't look as good as Crysis and there's the possibility of it being a bad port, so it might run AND look worse than Crysis

I'm sure it will look better than Crysis at least in some ways. Crysis will be four years old when it comes out.

[QUOTE=stepat201;27721819]I'm sure it will look better than Crysis at least in some ways. Crysis will be four years old when it comes out.[/QUOTE] crysis is still the best looking game on the market(most games are just catching up. besides metro 2033, but that game runs like crap), and its still like 4 years old. crysis 2 is also coming out, which should be the king for at least a few more years if crytek didn't totally ignore the pc version.

[QUOTE=stepat201;27721819]I'm sure it will look better than Crysis at least in some ways. Crysis will be four years old when it comes out.[/QUOTE] I highly doubt it, it'll have a larger game world but thats about it. Nothing has really visually surpassed crysis yet to be honest.

[QUOTE=Agoat;27704090]I will be buying this on Xbox so I'm not tempted to get mods for it. Then when I want mods I'll get it on PC.[/QUOTE] You realize mods are what makes Bethesda's games awesome? Graphics on Xbox are shit anyways, compared to a computer. And once you go to mods on PC, you will never go back to xbox.

[QUOTE=stepat201;27721819]I'm sure it will look better than Crysis at least in some ways. Crysis will be four years old when it comes out.[/QUOTE] I heavily doubt it. Didn't they say it would all look the same except the AA and higher resolution on PC? If so it will look ass for a 2011 game.

Graphics don't matter.

think i'll stick with 360 version CPU won't be able to handle this

[QUOTE=JerryK;27730965]think i'll stick with 360 version CPU won't be able to handle this[/QUOTE] You've got like 10 months to upgrade, start saving. I know I am. :v:

[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;27730679]Graphics don't matter.[/QUOTE] Bullshit. For an Elder Scrolls game, or for that matter [I]any[/I] open world game, they most definitely do matter. Do you want to explore a vast world that looks like shit?

Based on the scanned screens, I'm not too scared of running this game on my current PC. Since the game is being developed on all platforms, I could imagine some visual upgrades but nothing that is going to crunch every PC around. I can run Oblivion easily at max with lots of AA. Fo3 is the same, along with NMC's full texture pack. Just some of my hardware in concern: AMD Phenom X4 2.5Ghz (if they built the engine for multicore proc, I should be just fine.) HD 5770 1GB (Plenty of memory, I'm just not sure if it's going to have the raw horsepower.) What do you think?

[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;27731271]Bullshit. For an Elder Scrolls game, or for that matter [I]any[/I] open world game, they most definitely do matter. Do you want to explore a vast world that looks like shit?[/QUOTE] The style matters most. You can make something look as realistic as possible but people will prefer a damn good visual style over realism.

[QUOTE=spekter;27731349]The style matters most. You can make something look as realistic as possible but people will prefer a damn good visual style over realism.[/QUOTE] I agree. There have been games in the past that look amazing while not having that much technical assistance. I think that style and realism is an awesome way to go if you have the artist capable of it and the resources.

Just thought I'd pop in to say I found the thread title hilarious.

[QUOTE=imaguy;27719641]Hopefully everyone at least once. You honestly heavily mod a game on your first playthrough?[/QUOTE] On the french version there are some mods you MUST use, if not the game is completely broken - some quests just don't work, translation problems everywhere, the controls settings are not even kept, etc

Damn... I'm looking at a PC upgrade to run this aren't I? There's not a hope in hell i'm going to buy this for Xbox... No mods and no console? WHO PLAYS ELDER SCROLLS LIKE THAT?!

[QUOTE=Jacko245;27732433]Damn... I'm looking at a PC upgrade to run this aren't I? There's not a hope in hell i'm going to buy this for Xbox... No mods and no console? WHO PLAYS ELDER SCROLLS LIKE THAT?![/QUOTE] Yeah, looking at the PC specs you didn't post and the specs that aren't up for Skyrim I'd say you DEFINITELY need an upgrade.

[QUOTE=Jacko245;27732433]Damn... I'm looking at a PC upgrade to run this aren't I? There's not a hope in hell i'm going to buy this for Xbox... No mods and no console? WHO PLAYS ELDER SCROLLS LIKE THAT?![/QUOTE] It's released on 11.11.11, you'll have time to save money for that upgrade.

[QUOTE=rnate;27732777]Yeah, looking at the PC specs you didn't post and the specs that aren't up for Skyrim I'd say you DEFINITELY need an upgrade.[/QUOTE] I'm glad you think that! :v: I'd be happy to post my specs if you could specify whether i need to upgrade or not.

[QUOTE=imaguy;27719641]Hopefully everyone at least once. You honestly heavily mod a game on your first playthrough?[/QUOTE] Let me correct my previous statement, who the fuck only plays Oblivion once? My second playthrough was with some mods, theres a lot of tings that can be improved upon.

I'm getting a Dell XPS 15 laptop with an i7 and a GT 435M as a graduation present, so hopefully I'll be set when the game releases. :saddowns: