Bioshock Infinite Thread V3 Booker DeWitt in Wonderland - Games

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40055293]I'm terrified to play wow or lol or anything because I just know some jerk will spoil it[/QUOTE] Snape kills Dumbledore.

[QUOTE=Banned?;40055259][sp]This is completely guessing. It's not explained.[/sp][/QUOTE] Actually, [sp]if you play the game again, in the tower you find a recording from Lutece speculating that her powers are because a "small part of her remains where she came from", and that "the universe doesn't like it's peas mixed with it's porridge".[/sp]

[sp] So are there different endings in this like the other Bioshock games (You know, good/bad endings) or just this one[/sp]

[QUOTE=Dippeggs;40055333][sp] So are there different endings in this like the other Bioshock games (You know, good/bad endings) or just this one[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Just the one.[/sp]

[sp]Just the one, it would seem.[/sp]

i'm also terrified to browse this thread on my phone, i don't want to fatfinger it and accidentally reveal spoilers i'm at such a loss, i want to savor the game but i also don't want to constantly live in fear [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] am i the only one that upgrades the pistol ASAP and uses it over every other gun? I know I did it in BioShock, too.

[sp] It really makes me sad that there was just one, I wouldn't really mind to see a bad ending but then again, I guess we kind of did see what it would be like, for example: New York being attacked by Elizabeth in her later years. [/sp]

Just finished this awesome game. My reaction [sp] The ending had me going what the fuck, what THE fuck, what the FUCK, WHAT THE FUCK. My mind was bent in all directions. So booker is colmstock? then you get drowned in the end. What was so fucking special about the babtism? Also She's his daughter but also isn't his daughter? What was so great about the "bring us the girl erase your debts?" if he gave her away as payment then why did he go back to the light house? And oh god all those lighthouses. Why was is so important for booker to die anyways? I feel kind of cheated that I played through the entire game just to be drowned. [/sp] [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zinayzen;40055351]i'm also terrified to browse this thread on my phone, i don't want to fatfinger it and accidentally reveal spoilers i'm at such a loss, i want to savor the game but i also don't want to constantly live in fear [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] am i the only one that upgrades the pistol ASAP and uses it over every other gun? I know I did it in BioShock, too.[/QUOTE] Shotgun+carbine all day.

[QUOTE=Slacker101;40055376]Just finished this awesome game. My reaction [sp] The ending had me going what the fuck, what THE fuck, what the FUCK, WHAT THE FUCK. My mind was bent in all directions. So booker is colmstock? then you get drowned in the end. What was so fucking special about the babtism? Also She's his daughter but also isn't his daughter? What was so great about the "bring us the girl erase your debts?" if he gave her away as payment then why did he go back to the light house? And oh god all those lighthouses. Why was is so important for booker to die anyways? I feel kind of cheated that I played through the entire game just to be drowned. [/sp] [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] Shotgun+carbine all day.[/QUOTE] Reading through this thread in its entirety might help you understand the ending better. Also sniper and hand cannon noob.

[QUOTE=The-Spy;40055365][sp] It really makes me sad that there was just one, I wouldn't really mind to see a bad ending but then again, I guess we kind of did see what it would be like, for example: New York being attacked by Elizabeth in her later years. [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I'm glad they decided to put all the time into one specific but detailed ending to be honest.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Slacker101;40055376]Just finished this awesome game. My reaction [sp] The ending had me going what the fuck, what THE fuck, what the FUCK, WHAT THE FUCK. My mind was bent in all directions. So booker is colmstock? then you get drowned in the end. What was so fucking special about the babtism? Also She's his daughter but also isn't his daughter? What was so great about the "bring us the girl erase your debts?" if he gave her away as payment then why did he go back to the light house? And oh god all those lighthouses. Why was is so important for booker to die anyways? I feel kind of cheated that I played through the entire game just to be drowned. [/sp] [/QUOTE] [sp] Comstock is Booker from another dimension who has been baptized. Booker gave away Anna, or Elizabeth to wipe away his debts but then gets an offer later on to retrieve Anna from the city in an alternate dimension but his mind just goes fuzzy upon entering and tries to rebuild itself; He then starts to repeat "Bring us the girl and wipe away your debt" and believes he needs to go get Anna and bring her back while his real goal I believe is to destroy Comstock's civilization and stop the dimensional looping. The drowning was so they could stop the looping of the realms which means no more columbia, no more Comstock and no more Elizabeth/Anna. I'm not 100% sure if I am right, just my short sum. [/sp]

This game is so good i want to stick my dick in it.

So what exactly does 1999 mode change? I'm thinking of trying it.

[sp]But seriously guys what happens to the Luteces after the ending?[/sp] [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Whatsinaname;40055404]So what exactly does 1999 mode change? I'm thinking of trying it.[/QUOTE] It makes you want to shoot yourself.

[QUOTE=The-Spy;40055390][sp] Comstock is Booker from another dimension who has been baptized. Booker gave away Anna, or Elizabeth to wipe away his debts but then gets an offer later on to retrieve Anna from the city in an alternate dimension but his mind just goes fuzzy upon entering and tries to rebuild itself; He then starts to repeat "Bring us the girl and wipe away your debt" and believes he needs to go get Anna and bring her back while his real goal I believe is to destroy Comstock's civilization and stop the dimensional looping. The drowning was so they could stop the looping of the realms which means no more columbia, no more Comstock and no more Elizabeth/Anna. I'm not 100% sure if I am right, just my short sum. [/sp][/QUOTE] Found this good explanation in another forum, it hits the nail in the head if you ask me: [sp]"Okay, to start, I'm guessing you understand the multiple universe/tear part. To clarify, tears can be seen by anyone .There is an infomercial (or w/e the short videos are ) where people of columbia are terrified by these. People can look through them and that is how Fink is able to see Rapture's Plasmid tech (Vigor) and possibly copied Big Daddy tech to make Songbird. Booker has a child named Anna, mother assumed dead from childbearth. He had gambling problems and ends up resorting to EXTREME measures to clear his debt (selling Anna to a powerful figure who wanted her). The guilt eats away at him, and turns to religion for salvation. The event where the first 'split' happens is Booker's baptism. he either A)accepts it and becomes comstock. Or B) denies it at the last second, realizing his guilt will never go away and remains as Booker. Here are the first two universes, A and B. (We go through other 'minor' universes during gameplay, and where we end up is not the original universe... at least the way I see it.) In A-verse, Booker(now comstock) becomes a powerful and charismatic religious figure, teams up with the Regina Lutece and builds up Columbia. He is the prophet of his own city/Noah'a Arc and considers everyone else in the real, ground world as anarchists who caused his initial suffering(what initially caused him to get baptized). He uses propaganda to achieve this. During the development of Columbia, Lutece and Comstock finds a method of time travel(in reality it is universe-hopping). Regina Lutece finds a male counterpart of herself in a different universe, Robert Lutece. She brings him to her universe (because she likes the intellectual banter) but they realize it has side effects, causing Robert to rebuild memories to fit in with the current universe that he is in. Later on, they seem to solve this problem. Working closely with time travel has caused Comstock to age quickly and sterile. He realizes that his goal (Purging of the anarchists) will not become a possibility in his time and wants to leave an offspring, but he is sterile. He thinks that if he can go back in time to steal/buy his earlier child (Anna, before the universe split) then he is able to have a child that will lead his 'army' in his cause. Now this is my theory, but because Anna/Elizabeth's finger was cut off and because she now 'exists' in two different universes, she has the ability to freely traverse between universes. Comstock builds a tower/syphon in an attempt to contain such power for fear of losing her. He builds the Songbird to guard her. Realizing that the Booker from the different universe (B verse where he lost his child and didn't get baptized) could in theory come to his universe in an attempt to get his child (Anna) Comstock uses propoganda once again to warn people of the False Shepard (AD hand) The 2 Luteces's attempt at redemption for tearing a child away from her father is to bring Booker to the Comstock universe. (This is the start of the game. You are already in a different universe, and his memory has been adjusted as such) Out of many different possibilities (Eli destroying NY and such) our Booker succeeds in destroying the syphon giving Anna/Elizabeth her full power back, allowing her to understand the full map of the different universes. In the ending, Booker is enraged by Comstock's purchase of his daughter, and wants to undo it. But as Elizabeth said, the only way to do it is to remove Comstock completely from the different universes/timelines. Thats why at the end, we are back to the baptism where comstock is 'born' and Booker is drowned before he makes the choice. In the end we see multiple Elizabeth's dissapearing, the assumption is that she is the Elizabeth of the different Comstock universes. There is one Elizabeth left before the screen fades out. I am assuming that Anna is left. (She is never sold) which means that Booker never has the guilt that leads him to the baptism, removing Comstock. In the end, there are 3 constants. A man, a Lighthouse, and a city. Others are variables, similar, but different. Girl(Elizabeth/little sisters), jailor(Big daddy/songbird), tyrant(ryan/comstock) These are my interpretations, and any more questions I'd be happy to answer. (I have a few questions too lol) EDIT1: The choices you make in game (especially the head/tail one) is a good foreshadowing of the ending of the game. No matter what choices you make, the ending is the same (tail). It is seen on Robert's panel that there are only tails."[/sp]

[QUOTE=StupidUsername67;40054761]who else had their mind explode when they found out that [sp]all of the music in the game is just old 1912'd remakes of popular songs from the future[/sp] :v:[/QUOTE] [sp] After the revolution starts the black woman at the stocks is singing Fortunate Son. I stood there and listened and remenised to the days playing battlefield: Vietnam [/sp]

is 1999 mode different than Hard, or are they the same? [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] i just realized that Liz is going to completely ruin AI for me. goddammit.

Well, CrossNgen, today you made the CIA cry through the act of expending their entire black ink supply for this year. Hope you're proud of yourself.

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[QUOTE=certified;40055431]Well, CrossNgen, today you made the CIA cry through the act of expending their entire black ink supply for this year. Hope you're proud of yourself.[/QUOTE] [sp]In another world, I AM the CIA!(plot twists everywhere!)[/sp]

Okay I understand it a lot more now. [sp] I didn't stay for after the credits? Does Booker wake back up for real? that would at least help me sleep tonight. [/sp] [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Whyt546;40054260][sp]I just snuck past all of the Boys of Silence except for the first one. Every other one after that you can sneak by as long as the light doesn't detect you, and the minions won't care if they see you.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] I equipped all my melee specific gear and my upgraded murder crows and planeted traps then ran into the light. While the crows attacked I just spammed melee since I was out of bullets.[/sp] [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;40053893]Handymen are giant dicks. I mean seriously I try to get away from your big hands and then you ELECTROCUTE THE FUCKING RAILS? And then I jump off and all of a sudden THERE YOU ARE SLAPPING ME AROUND WITH YOUR BIG HANDS. STEP OFF BIG MAN. DYING 7 TIMES IN A ROW IS STARTING TO PISS ME OFF. Side note this game is fucking incredible oh my god the story and the characters and Elizabeth and everything.[/QUOTE] [sp] I just spamed murder crows at them, they get distracted swatting them, giving plenty of time to shoot the heart. I used murder crows and possesion the most.[/sp]

I think my biggest disappointment in this game was the streamlining and lack of depth. Bioshock was already a dumbed down System Shock 2, they didn't need to make it even simpler. Still really fun though.

[QUOTE=Slacker101;40055450] [sp] I just spamed murder crows at them, they get distracted swatting them, giving plenty of time to shoot the heart. I used murder crows and possesion the most.[/sp][/QUOTE] Murder crows... fuck. [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] [sp] Everyone refers to the Lutece's as twins, but they are the same person, one from Bookers time line, one from Comstock's. [/sp]

so yeah I thought why I died so often [t]http://goo.gl/a9TDs[/t] oh... I thought I had chosen medium

Is it just me, or is the first few fights of 1999 mode harder than the next few hours of the game. I guess it's because all you have is a pistol and no shield...

[QUOTE=Techbot;40055615]so yeah I thought why I died so often [t]http://goo.gl/a9TDs[/t] oh... I thought I had chosen medium[/QUOTE] I had to turn that shit down to medium a couple times. Those fights with the [sp]weird-ass ghost lady[/sp] are fucking impossible. Enemies, enemies everywhere. I also thought this was a nice little nod. [thumb]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/558718112030608274/34226753D9DC4F6BD96590586EF9E34362D08CA2/[/thumb]

[QUOTE=Whatsinaname;40055584]I think my biggest disappointment in this game was the streamlining and lack of depth. Bioshock was already a dumbed down System Shock 2, they didn't need to make it even simpler. Still really fun though.[/QUOTE] Streamlined, yes. Lack of depth? Certainly not. The skyrail sections are an immensely refreshing bit of vertical and highspeed gameplay that up until now was hard to find in singleplayer, console-hobbled FPS games.

I don't think I've ever played a game with an ending that was that spectacular. I STILL HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. I MUST PLAY IT AGAIN NOW ON 1999 MODE.

[QUOTE=Zinayzen;40055351] am i the only one that upgrades the pistol ASAP and uses it over every other gun? I know I did it in BioShock, too.[/QUOTE] I did, until I found the hand cannon aww yiss mother fucking hand cannon [editline]27th March 2013[/editline] fuck i want to start a second playthrough right away but i have a difficult test tomorrow :v:

[sp] The part where Booker asks for tickets on the First Lady, there are two choices, I chose the demand one and got stabbed, do you get stabbed if you choose the take out weapons one? [/sp]