Bioshock Infinite Thread V3 Booker DeWitt in Wonderland - Games

[QUOTE=mchapra;40057960]I still don't understand how[sp]rapture played into the whole constants and variables deal[/sp] It just felt out of place to me[/QUOTE] [sp]It's fan service and a visual representation of her powers[/sp]

Wait [sp]are there multiple endings or only one ending? Also does everyone get the after credits part or is that a bonus for doing it a certain way? I skipped the credits and I didn't have that part.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;40058079]Wait [sp]are there multiple endings or only one ending? Also does everyone get the after credits part or is that a bonus for doing it a certain way? I skipped the credits and I didn't have that part.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Only one ending, everyone gets to see the after-credits scene as long as you actually watch through the credits[/sp]

[QUOTE=Rusty100;40058079]Wait [sp]are there multiple endings or only one ending? Also does everyone get the after credits part or is that a bonus for doing it a certain way? I skipped the credits and I didn't have that part.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]There is one ending. If you skip the credits you don't see the post scene[/sp]

good thing youtube exists

[QUOTE=Rusty100;40058079]Wait [sp]are there multiple endings or only one ending? Also does everyone get the after credits part or is that a bonus for doing it a certain way? I skipped the credits and I didn't have that part.[/sp][/QUOTE] Variables change, but the outcome remains the same.

anybody know all the variables then? curious to know the different stuff that can happen

[QUOTE=Rusty100;40058166]anybody know all the variables then? curious to know the different stuff that can happen[/QUOTE] the small things like [sp] cage or bird threatening ticket guy makes it so you don't get stabbed in the hand[/sp] just a couple examples

[sp]i got stabed. i didn't realise i could threaten the guy i guess i wasn't paying attention and then suddenly i was STABED.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Pinut;40058185]the small things like [sp] cage or bird threatening ticket guy makes it so you don't get stabbed in the hand[/sp] just a couple examples[/QUOTE] [sp]Does that change Booker having the cloth around his hand? And subsequently the posters of him with a cloth around his hand later on? Or does he put one on anyway to hide the AD mark.[/sp]

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;40058310][sp]Does that change Booker having the cloth around his hand? And subsequently the posters of him with a cloth around his hand later on? Or does he put one on anyway to hide the AD mark.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]If you pull your weapons he doesn't get stabbed and doesn't get stuck with a bandage[/sp]

yeah but the bandage looks nicely detailed and cool so i'm cool with it ALSO [sp]does comstock have any visible hand damage if you get stabbed or even the AD? Why wouldn't he have that?[/sp]

[QUOTE=SekritJay;40057955]Guys, we're all missing the REAL secret of Columbia [i]How the fuck does no-one get travel sickness[/i][/QUOTE] How does no one lose their arm using the sky lines?

Goddamn the first real boss fight you have in the game (with "slate") is hard as fuck on 1999 mode Going against a big fatty and a bunch of accurate as hell henchmen? There's just no way to survive that unless you have $1k to burn on revives (I don't, at all). Take cover from the big fatty that wrecks you in seconds and you end up being right in the line of fire of 3-5 respawning guys.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;40058352]yeah but the bandage looks nicely detailed and cool so i'm cool with it ALSO [sp]does comstock have any visible hand damage if you get stabbed or even the AD? Why wouldn't he have that?[/sp][/QUOTE] This is starting to get technical so I'm sorry if I mislead and someone please correct me if I am but [sp]Comstock-Booker never got married and had a kid because he was baptized. He took Elizabeth from another version of himself in the past who didn't baptize himself. Ergo he never felt penance for selling his daughter over gambling debt and never branded his hand[/sp]

[QUOTE=MAspiderface;40057693]Pretty much Fuck those turrets. It's like they're made of adamantium or some shit.[/QUOTE] Slightly more than that though I.E. you can't revive if you have $0 and dieing drains your $$$ by a shit ton. It makes you really have to work twoards getting upgrades because it can take you a long time to get enough cash to improve a vigor at $1.2k, when you lose $100-$150 or so every time you die, which is really easy to do. I've not upgraded any of my weapons so far and I'm at slate which I assume isn't too far into the game.

Oh wow, I just noticed something cool in the beginning. After you get the telegram from Lutece, go to the telescope to the left, and in it you see the Lutece Twins on the landing below, Robert Lutece is juggling, but when you leave the telescope they aren't there :o Really cool detail that is. Now I've gotta keep an eye out in the other telescopes for stuff like that.

so the ending is like "thoughts of a dying atheist" ?

[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;40057914]Yeah. I still remember how [sp]when the machine breaks and Elizabeth points out that Shock Jockey is on show at the Hall Of Heroes, and Booker notes how convenient that is.[/sp] In any other game it'd seem kinda fourth-wall breaking and satirical, but in Infinite it just seemed... right.[/QUOTE][sp]A city under the ocean? Sure.[/sp]

Alright, beat the game in one sitting. 9.6 hours, according to Steam. I'm a terrible person, but I just couldn't stop. One thing bugs me though: [sp]The hell is up with the nosebleeds and why didn't everyone have them all the time?[/sp] [sp]I originally thought it was because someone died in an alternate universe, and it fucked up their other-self, but the ending changed that theory a little. Booker/Comstock didn't die in either universe, and Booker's nosebleeds started when he went into Comstock's universe, presumably due to creating new memories. But then why do the guards have nosebleeds in the stronghold? Given they stay in their respective universes, they'd wouldn't create new memories like Booker. I believe Elizabeth mentions something about that happening if they recall how they died in another universe (I was too busy looting to listen closely). However, given there are an infinite number of universes - there's likely one universe where they'd die of a heart attack or some shit early on in their life, and they'd have nosebleeds all the time (unless a universe's proximity has something to do with it, too). Did I miss something?[/sp]

Alright, 15 hours played, just got to [sp]the interior of Comstock's flagship.[/sp] Gotta go to work now but I guarantee the game will be on my mind. This is game of the decade material.

very few games make me feel legitimately exhausted from how tense they are bioshock infinite is one of those few

Whoa whoa whoa, at the coin flip part at the start, what determines if you say head or tails? I just saw that you can end up saying one or the other.

[QUOTE=OpethRockr55;40058547]Alright, beat the game in one sitting. 9.6 hours, according to Steam. I'm a terrible person, but I just couldn't stop. One thing bugs me though: [sp]The hell is up with the nosebleeds and why didn't everyone have them all the time?[/sp] [sp]I originally thought it was because someone died in an alternate universe, and it fucked up their other-self, but the ending changed that theory a little. Booker/Comstock didn't die in either universe, and Booker's nosebleeds started when he went into Comstock's universe, presumably due to creating new memories. But then why do the guards have nosebleeds in the stronghold? Given they stay in their respective universes, they'd wouldn't create new memories like Booker. I believe Elizabeth mentions something about that happening if they recall how they died in another universe (I was too busy looting to listen closely). However, given there are an infinite number of universes - there's likely one universe where they'd die of a heart attack or some shit early on in their life, and they'd have nosebleeds all the time (unless a universe's proximity has something to do with it, too). Did I miss something?[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I think it might have to do with their bodies being swallowed up by the tear at a close proximity to where they'd be in the alternate universe you jump into so their dead selves directly interact with their alive selves which causes a recollection of their death and some crazy shock as they try to make sense of it.[/sp] [sp]I'm just talking out of my ass I have no idea how that actually works[/sp] :v:

Not really a spoiler. The bit with Mozarts requiem lacrimosa. Jesus. Haven't got chills from a game in a long, long time.

[QUOTE=OpethRockr55;40058547]Alright, beat the game in one sitting. 9.6 hours, according to Steam. I'm a terrible person, but I just couldn't stop. One thing bugs me though: [sp]The hell is up with the nosebleeds and why didn't everyone have them all the time?[/sp] [sp]I originally thought it was because someone died in an alternate universe, and it fucked up their other-self, but the ending changed that theory a little. Booker/Comstock didn't die in either universe, and Booker's nosebleeds started when he went into Comstock's universe, presumably due to creating new memories. But then why do the guards have nosebleeds in the stronghold? Given they stay in their respective universes, they'd wouldn't create new memories like Booker. I believe Elizabeth mentions something about that happening if they recall how they died in another universe (I was too busy looting to listen closely). However, given there are an infinite number of universes - there's likely one universe where they'd die of a heart attack or some shit early on in their life, and they'd have nosebleeds all the time (unless a universe's proximity has something to do with it, too). Did I miss something?[/sp][/QUOTE] Spoilers and a lot of speculation: [sp] The nosebleeds are where a memory is being replaced with another memory. For example Booker got nosebleeds whenever he started to remember something and it was replacing another memory from the universe he was in. For example: Booker learns he died a martyr in the universe where the vox got the guns. He suddenly starts remembering what happened. He remembers dying as a martyr and he remembers giving the vox the guns. Another example is near the end with comstock where comstock is demanding he remembers what happened to elizabeths finger. Before he had no clue what happened but by mentioning it he remembers memories of what happened thus replacing his memories and causing the nosebleed. The guards also have this but it seems a bit different. They died in the other universe and somehow are remembering it happen. Maybe it has something to do with Elizabeth being there? Maybe we don't 100% understand how it works. But it seems that whenever someone has a nosebleed it is because memories are being replaced. The guards memories of being alive are replaced with memories of being dead from another universe and they simply can't handle it. I'm not sure how this works with the heart attack detail though. Maybe the universes are more built around smaller things and not death. Maybe in all universes the person supposedly dies at the same time in all of them. This could explain why in the universe you are in the guard is freaking out. Maybe in all other universes the guard is freaking out as well from being dead in just one universe. I believe Elizabeth talks about peoples fate at times and mentions that they can't change it.[/sp] Edit: [sp] Maybe I'm wrong about the death thing where everyone is supposed to die at the same time because that wouldn't make sense with the booker/comstock deal and him dying as a martyr. I'm not 100% sure. But I'm nearly positive the nosebleeds and confusion is caused by replaced memories.[/sp] Just my thoughts on it. I could of course be wrong but this is the explanation I came to.

[QUOTE=Marden;40058373]How does no one lose their arm using the sky lines?[/QUOTE] Mass effect fields No, hang on...

So am I missing something or is there no way to just save whenever you want? I like saving whenever I want

[QUOTE=Murdoco;40058826]Spoilers and a lot of speculation: [sp] The nosebleeds are where a memory is being replaced with another memory. For example Booker got nosebleeds whenever he started to remember something and it was replacing another memory from the universe he was in. For example: Booker learns he died a martyr in the universe where the vox got the guns. He suddenly starts remembering what happened. He remembers dying as a martyr and he remembers giving the vox the guns. Another example is near the end with comstock where comstock is demanding he remembers what happened to elizabeths finger. Before he had no clue what happened but by mentioning it he remembers memories of what happened thus replacing his memories and causing the nosebleed. The guards also have this but it seems a bit different. They died in the other universe and somehow are remembering it happen. Maybe it has something to do with Elizabeth being there? Maybe we don't 100% understand how it works. But it seems that whenever someone has a nosebleed it is because memories are being replaced. The guards memories of being alive are replaced with memories of being dead from another universe and they simply can't handle it. I'm not sure how this works with the heart attack detail though. Maybe the universes are more built around smaller things and not death. Maybe in all universes the person supposedly dies at the same time in all of them. This could explain why in the universe you are in the guard is freaking out. Maybe in all other universes the guard is freaking out as well from being dead in just one universe. I believe Elizabeth talks about peoples fate at times and mentions that they can't change it.[/sp] Edit: [sp] Maybe I'm wrong about the death thing where everyone is supposed to die at the same time because that wouldn't make sense with the booker/comstock deal and him dying as a martyr. I'm not 100% sure. But I'm nearly positive the nosebleeds and confusion is caused by replaced memories.[/sp] Just my thoughts on it. I could of course be wrong but this is the explanation I came to.[/QUOTE] [sp]I also noticed a girl during the "Find 3 tears" part of the game that was frantically sweeping at some rubble and fire she couldn't seem to see, and she was muttering "I know whats going to happen here, I know" frantically. Also, the gunsmith working on the tools that aren't there. I guess there's just an incompatiabillity to changing ones memories and history in this way that causes them to get stuck between worlds in a way.[/sp]

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;40059100][sp]I also noticed a girl during the "Find 3 tears" part of the game that was frantically sweeping at some rubble and fire she couldn't seem to see, and she was muttering "I know whats going to happen here, I know" frantically. Also, the gunsmith working on the tools that aren't there. I guess there's just an incompatiabillity to changing ones memories and history in this way that causes them to get stuck between worlds in a way.[/sp][/QUOTE] Spoilers [sp] Ya. It would seem those that some are stuck in between the universes and just can't handle it. They are stuck in a die, won't die, will die thought process. In one universe they die, in another universe they don't, and in another universe they will. And somehow these people get stuck between these variables of death and freak out.[/sp]