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Why the fuck is every single new game (2010,2009,2008etc) requires the best PC up to date?

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[QUOTE=mrhead;20471231]Why? I mean fuck,think about the ones that can't afford a PC. Too many good games,all of them needing a PC. Right,so I am on a pretty low budget PC.What the fuck does it cost to lower the model graphics to something like HL2 graphics? What the fuck does it cost to remove a couple of goddamn shadows in a goddamn game? Fuck,it has to be the hardest thing ever in the fucking world,because I can't play any of the new good fucking games. Left 4 Dead,AVP,Crysis,etc. Atleast I can fucking play Killing Floor for fucks sakes. Dear god,I would love to play GTA 4 on a goddamn first person mod with all my shitty graphics,I just want to play the game before I fucking drop dead for fucks sakes.[/QUOTE] what is low budget to you? my $800 laptop can run all of those maxed out, you could probably make a better build for less [editline]11:25AM[/editline] except GTA4 of course

fuk i spent 600 on my pc and i can run all of these new games well

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;20473899]op, get a real computer, and stop playing on windows 98. this is 2010, we have prototypes of anti-aircraft LASERS. i think that computer games are going to do the same, evolve to look and be better, and soon, that rig of yours won't work with any new games. go buy a copy of windows 7 and stop griping.[/QUOTE] because windows 7 makes his computer new...

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quit trying to play everything on max.

I've got mine running smooth, it's just when it requires DX10 I run in to trouble.

[QUOTE=mrhead;20471231]Why? I mean fuck,think about the ones that can't afford a PC. Too many good games,all of them needing a PC. Right,so I am on a pretty low budget PC.What the fuck does it cost to lower the model graphics to something like HL2 graphics? What the fuck does it cost to remove a couple of goddamn shadows in a goddamn game? Fuck,it has to be the hardest thing ever in the fucking world,because I can't play any of the new good fucking games. Left 4 Dead,AVP,Crysis,etc. Atleast I can fucking play Killing Floor for fucks sakes. Dear god,I would love to play GTA 4 on a goddamn first person mod with all my shitty graphics,I just want to play the game before I fucking drop dead for fucks sakes.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry that your Apple II can't run games very good.

left 4 dead fucking runs on my toaster, it must be quite the shitty PC you've got.

[QUOTE=mu ha ha;20471475]My computer is OLD, 4 years, but I'm able to play ALL games on the highest, except GTA IV and Crysis, those are a mix of mostly highest and the setting just under the highest. The only 'new' thing in my computer is my graphics card, which is a Nvidia 8800GT, so if you ask me, it's not like you have to buy a new computer quite often to be able to keep up with games..[/QUOTE] I have the same card, and its pretty great

Get a job.

[QUOTE=Nugiman;20478041]left 4 dead fucking runs on my toaster, it must be quite the shitty PC you've got.[/QUOTE] I'll offer $300 for your toaster sir.

Atleast I can run HL2 on high. I'm gonna get Killing Floor,because that apparently requires an quite old rig [editline]02:33PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Stickmna;20473855]I... just don't know what to say. You say you want to play good games yet whine about them utilizing better technology and requiring higher system specs. I just don't understand. Your argument is just too fucking dumb![/QUOTE] Yet its because I don't have a PC and me and my family are pretty bad at the moment.

Get an 8800GT, play at 1280x920 for best framerates. Unless you're playing on a laptop, in which case you're fucked.

Saying "mow some lawns if you wanna play better games" is easier said than done not everyone lives in their parents basement mooching of of their parents money. Did ya know there's things like bills you gotta pay every once in a blue moon? Not everyone has the time to learn where the better deals are or even knowing what to buy to make their computers better, they have these things called lives guys. You should learn how to get one instead of learning how much CPU is needed to "tighten up those graphix" or whatever you people are into these days. [editline]02:54PM[/editline] As a matter of fact just get a console, half of the good games coming out on PC are also on console anyways and the other half that aren't are shit anyways.

[QUOTE=gfbbgfvfr;20492480]Saying "mow some lawns if you wanna play better games" is easier said than done not everyone lives in their parents basement mooching of of their parents money. Did ya know there's things like bills you gotta pay every once in a blue moon? Not everyone has the time to learn where the better deals are or even knowing what to buy to make their computers better, they have these things called lives guys. You should learn how to get one instead of learning how much CPU is needed to "tighten up those graphix" or whatever you people are into these days. [editline]02:54PM[/editline] As a matter of fact just get a console, half of the good games coming out on PC are also on console anyways and the other half that aren't are shit anyways.[/QUOTE] You can get a decent gaming computer for 400-500$/€ and you can use it for a lot more than just gaming. Besides that, PC games are usually cheaper + there's quite many good free ones. Those 500$ for something that should last you for 3-4 years isn't really a big investment, is it?

Shutup I ran Mass effect 2 on a x1400 mobility. I turned off dynamic lights :3

[QUOTE=pebkac;20492781]You can get a decent gaming computer for 400-500$/€ and you can use it for a lot more than just gaming. Besides that, PC games are usually cheaper + there's quite many good free ones. Those 500$ for something that should last you for 3-4 years isn't really a big investment, is it?[/QUOTE] the problem is by the 3rd year you're gonna have to start tweaking every game you buy and gotta jump through a bunch of hoops to squeeze all the fps you can and even then the game will run at less than hoped for and the only solution will then be to keep buying newer parts just to be able to play those new games.

[QUOTE=Seeth;20474285]get a console if you cant keep up[/QUOTE] Hate to say it but if you're smart about getting a PC you realise it works out much cheaper than a console in the long run. It just requires a bigger initial investment because you buy the hardware straight out whereas with a console you don't pay in full for the hardware and pay it back every time you buy a new game in the form of subsidiaries. In short; if you can't manage your finances, get a console and spread out your debt instead of making a larger initial investment that will end up being much more rewarding. If you still think it is more expensive getting a PC, add the fact that practically everyone has a PC for doing the basics such as browsing and IM'ing and such anyway so add that to the cost of your console and smoke it.

Much of the PC gaming market is he kind of people who put efforts into their PC's many Devs assume that you are one fo those and thus have a pretty good comp.

All you really have to do is replace two main parts to make it more New-Game friendly; CPU and GPU.

[QUOTE=MutantBadger;20499589]All you really have to do is replace two main parts to make it more New-Game friendly; CPU and GPU.[/QUOTE] Yeah, two of the most expensive parts.

Because if devs keep making games for old hardware then there will never be any progress. You can't expect them to keep supporting technology that is 5+ years obsolete.

[QUOTE=Acesarge;20501664]Because if devs keep making games for old hardware then there will never be any progress. You can't expect them to keep supporting technology that is 5+ years obsolete.[/QUOTE] when tecknology comes to a standstill. i think they'll be relying more on software optimization. it's far off in the future. but i'm still looking forward to lifetime rigs.

If you can't run L4D your computer is ancient. Seriously, the source engine is [I]not[/I] hard to run.

SNIP- i didn't make sense.

[QUOTE=mrhead;20471231]HUGE RANT[/QUOTE] I raised $600 when I was 15 to put together my own computer. If I could, you can. Get off your ass and stop bitching.

[QUOTE=ironman17;20471355]This is indeed an issue with the PC gaming world. People are pushing the envelope with technology, forgetting that not everyone can afford to shell out on a new improved supercomputer every year or two, especially with the current economic slump. It's things like this that kinda isolates a portion of the target market[/QUOTE] It has little to do with this, and more to do with sloppy and inefficient programming. The engines are being designed to take advantage of more and more power, rather than using existing power more efficiently. Of course, we will hit a point in graphics where it makes no sense to go further, and then the work will go to something worth it for a change: the gameplay, the story, all the little things and details that make a game great. We're a little while away from that I'm afraid.

Buy an XBox? At least then you know games will run. Of course, you will be forced to play on an XBox....

This is honestly why I own a 360...that and you don't have to worry about people cheating online (most of the time, anyway) Luckily most games these days are released for multiple platforms.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;20471386]They don't. You can play plenty of games with a 3 year outdated good machine, or recent mainstream machines. The games that don't play on those ore mostly half assed console ports.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Games always required an up to date computer to run on the highest settings, but otherwise they run just fine on older machines. Some recent games might not be like that, because of some "advances" in the physical/AI calculations (GTA IV with Euphoria, or games with nice destruction possibilities), but even then, unless you have my completely obsolete 2 GHz dual core, you can run them just fine.

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