Cartridges Vs. Discs - Games

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;28867250]For some reason it feels better to insert a floppy disk into a computer than a regular Dvd. Even though it is completely impractical.[/QUOTE] Everyone knows the best form of memory was delay line memory. Someone should find a way to get a game onto one of these things and have it plugged into our computers [img]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1181/1198661597_e7c47e8b46.jpg[/img]

Wouldn't you be able to fit even more on cartridges these days given better technology? I mean usb drives are essentially cartridges.

Are cartridges the same thing as USB flash drives? Maybe not, but aesthetically speaking, they're both plastic bricks. Modern USB flash drives can hold several gigabytes of date, enough for a game. Nintendo and Microsoft will probably switch to the flash drive medium for next generation consoles. Sony will probably stick with Blu-ray.

Cartridges are still used for handhelds. SD cards/flash memory and whatnot is still too expensive with larger amounts of memory to use versus a bluray disc or what have you for modern gaming. a single dvd or bluray disc costs less than the equivilent sd card costs. That said I do like cartridges for short load times and extra features devs can build into them. I love the capacity of discs of course as well. I don't care either way as long as there are good games to play.

Can you do this with a disc? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8hzjvQbj-I[/media] [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] In all seriousness, Discs are definitely better now a days, but cartridges are still good for portable devices. Unless you actually liked UMD's or something.

I remember when I was younger, I used to chuck all my gameboy cartridges into a Ziploc bag for long vacation road trips. That said, cartridges are great because of portability and the fact that they aren't fragile.

Cartridges can't be scratched beyond all repair from asshole siblings not putting them back in the proper goddamn place and instead leaving them on the floor to be stood on like the lazy pieces of shit they are :argh:

Cartridges are superior because even the proprietary formats can usually be read easily since you can hook up shit to the contacts, but with a custom disc format, you'll need to get a drive that can read it, reverse-engineer it, develop drivers, write software etc. GD-ROM was nice though since it was almost the same thing as CDs.

you can't tilt a cd

I grew up with them both, but I was born in '96, so I didn't have a NES/SNES/N64. I've lost a fair few cartridges for my Gameboy (Pokemon emerald, sapphire, leafgreen (?)) and had several corrupted (Crash Bandicoot N-tranced, Pokemon emerald, sapphire, firered), but I rarely lose or break discs. Overall, I prefer discs, but I have more of my memories with my Gameboy than with my PC. Sigh, the good old days. .. although, my Gamecube uses discs, and yet I have many memories with that. Like the day I was playing Pikmin and I was told that 4 of our pet goats died. :smith: STOP THE MEMORIIIIIIIES :gonk:

The next generation of consoles should use SSDs instead of disks, used in much the same way as Cartridges were.

[QUOTE=Brobblie;28863136] [b]What's so great about them?[/b] -The artwork can be more elaborate than with cartridges -They handle liquids fairly well -Easy storage -Many consider discs to be more stylish [b]What's so bad about them?[/b] -Very easily breakable [B]Nope, they really are not.[/B] -Once again, if you knock over the console you're screwed(Mainly Xbox) [B]Xbox's fault, not disc's. Most disk readers have safes against such things[/B] -You can't leave them out in the open [B]I've left my D2 Cd out in the open for 6 years now, still works like a charm[/B] -Does not last long out of box [B]Same as above[/B] -Noisy [B]That they are.[/B] -Breaks and chips easily if dropped [B]No they do not, just dropped my BF2 DVD from around 1.5 metres right onto my hard floor, nothing happened[/B] -You have to be especially careful not to break them [B]Above[/B] -Somewhat difficult to handle [B]Huh? Unless you have really dirty hands all the time touching the underside of the disc won't do anything[/B] [/QUOTE] Cartridges were abandoned for a reason, the only advantage is that they are noiseless.

[QUOTE=yuki;28865186]Wait wait We have USB thumbdrives that can hold 3x more data than discs can.[/QUOTE] Yeah but you're forgetting that the USB bus is so God-damn slow.

[QUOTE=acds;29190927]Cartridges were abandoned for a reason, the only advantage is that they are noiseless.[/QUOTE] Cartridges were abandoned because cds are cheaper, that's it. I'm not saying that cd or cartridge is better. I'm saying that companies simply went with what would allow them to get more profit.

[QUOTE=Religous Nutjob;29190707]The next generation of consoles should use SSDs instead of disks, used in much the same way as Cartridges were.[/QUOTE] Maybe the next gen should be expensive as well. /sarcasm

I prefer discs. They die out though at the worst times. I bought Red Faction Guerilla then a few months later the disc stopped working, and I haven't bothered to buy a new one to finish the game. My Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2x also stopped working, but I think it's just my Xbox, which I bought when they first came out. I think that one died as well...I can't get it to turn on. :smith:

Have you guys seen this. It's a GB Camera, quite cool: [img]http://www.gameboycarts.com/carts/gold_game_boy_camera_01.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Swebonny;29192979]Have you guys seen this. It's a GB Camera, quite cool: [img_thumb]http://www.gameboycarts.com/carts/gold_game_boy_camera_01.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I see your GB camera and raise you a GB printer. [img]http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/03/180px-Game_Boy_Printer.gif[/img]

cartridges look cooler and are way sturdier than discs, but discs can hold way more memory solution: make bigger cartridges :science:

I like cartridges because of tilting. You can't tilt a disc. Tilting was bloody fun. You could get all kinds of stupid shit to happen in the game.

[QUOTE=spanaren;29194189]I like cartridges because of tilting. You can't tilt a disc. Tilting was bloody fun. You could get all kinds of stupid shit to happen in the game.[/QUOTE] Bah, I fondly recall playing Tomorrow Never Dies (PS1) and then taking the disk out and putting in GTA2. The level still worked but the background music changed to one of the radio stations. Trippy. This was before they added the whole "The game isn't in the system, restart now" thing to games as standard. I like how this thread lists "But they break easily!" several times in Disk disadvantages. I've only ever broken a disk once, when I threw a CD case onto my bed and it wasn't closed properly so the disk flew out on impact and shattered against the wall. None of these disadvantages apply if you keep them in the box like a sane person, and when you do that all the advantages of Cartridges come into play for them.

Don't cartridges have a much , much higher read speed or something than discs?

I remember putting a PS1 game into my PC by accident and it having wallpapers, a video, some songs and some other cool stuff on it, but I cannot remember which game it was. Might have been Dead or Alive...

[QUOTE=Swebonny;29192979]Have you guys seen this. It's a GB Camera, quite cool: [img_thumb]http://www.gameboycarts.com/carts/gold_game_boy_camera_01.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=nikomo;29193885]I see your GB camera and raise you a GB printer. [img_thumb]http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/03/180px-Game_Boy_Printer.gif[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I always wanted those as a kid. :smith: [editline]15th April 2011[/editline] I never got one.

Disks for sure, even though they are noisy. Cartridges wear out of you use them too much. Disks do too, (scratching) but you can fix that a couple times atleast. That said, for portable consoles cartridges are superior imo.

Why are people saying Cartidges cant hold shit. Todays advancements in solid state memory means you could fit a lot more than you could on a DVD and even a Blu-Ray.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;29199060]Why are people saying Cartidges cant hold shit. Todays advancements in solid state memory means you could fit a lot more than you could on a DVD and even a Blu-Ray.[/QUOTE] At a cost of very limited uses and high pricetags in comparison. To get a SSD large enough to hold most games for even a home computer can cost ~£100, now imagine how much a company could charge when that SSD comes pre-loaded with a game too? They are not feasible yet.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;29199171]At a cost of very limited uses and high pricetags in comparison. To get a SSD large enough to hold most games for even a home computer can cost ~£100, now imagine how much a company could charge when that SSD comes pre-loaded with a game too? They are not feasible yet.[/QUOTE] Yeah.... Gotta admit though, it would be fucking cool to start using them, you wouldn't even need hard drives in consoles. A man can dream.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;28863508]Disks are way better are you kidding me. Only reason anyone here would disagree is for nostalgic feel.[/QUOTE]Disks fucking suck. All optical media is fucking awful. It's inexcusable.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;29199204]Yeah.... Gotta admit though, it would be fucking cool to start using them, you wouldn't even need hard drives in consoles. A man can dream.[/QUOTE] you'd still want hard drives in consoles for downloadable games and dlc, as well as all the media stuff they are capable of.