Finally, just Cain and Maggy to beat satan now, This is the luckiest and the strongest eve run i will ever have, bought moms knife in depths 2 for 15 cents and I had lord of the pit. I killed the 3td form of satan the faster than the other 2.
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How much pages do we have left before I'll need to make V3 ?
You guys remember that character Edmund mentioned in that co-commentary with Northerlion? I got him to clarify what he was planning -- It's allegedly not a whole new character, but a challenge run where the player must use Fetus in a Jar and Doctor's Remote the entire time.
Still sounds like fun, even if not a distinct character like Samson or Eve.
So it's gonna be the Dr Fetus Challenge? Sounds like fun; challenge modes and speedruns would give more ways for the player to push themselves.
"No item run"
No items of powerups spawn.
Blue baby only.
[QUOTE=iLife_Aftermath;35023248]"No item run"
No items of powerups spawn.
Blue baby only.[/QUOTE]
Blue Baby has the poop.
Challenge ruined.
Poop is useless, you have a chance of 90% to not get the item and 10
5 to get it.
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Soul hearts allowed for no item run
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35022722]You guys remember that character Edmund mentioned in that co-commentary with Northerlion? I got him to clarify what he was planning -- It's allegedly not a whole new character, but a challenge run where the player must use Fetus in a Jar and Doctor's Remote the entire time.
Still sounds like fun, even if not a distinct character like Samson or Eve.[/QUOTE]
He added 9 challenges, but he said there are gonna be more.
-snip dawg i'm dumb hurr-
I unlocked ??? today, thought I'd try him out.
Beat It Lives with him first time ever using him. Is that good?
[QUOTE=~Myst;35031087]I unlocked ??? today, thought I'd try him out.
Beat It Lives with him first time ever using him. Is that good?[/QUOTE]
It means you have solid fundamentals. Now go beat Satan with him so you can get the Forget Me Now. :v:
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35031116]It means you have solid fundamentals. Now go beat Satan with him so you can get the Forget Me Now. :v:[/QUOTE]
I've read about the FMN and it seems kind of useless. Why would you want it?
[QUOTE=~Myst;35031142]I've read about the FMN and it seems kind of useless. Why would you want it?[/QUOTE]
Provided that you aren't abandoning a decent sparebar item, it allows you to get 1 more round of pickups from the shop, item room, and boss room. Considering that item pickup frequency takes a nosedive once you pass the Depths, that's a pretty big deal.
And if you somehow save it until you get into the Womb or Sheol, it will allow you to immediately reroll the floor layout if you don't like it (this is assuming you have the compass and/or treasure map, otherwise it'd be a blind stab at a reroll).
That's pretty true. I hate when mom's heart/it lives has a room 50 trillion rooms away from the spawn.
Also, does D6 roll from ANY items? As in, can you get satan room items in treasure rooms?
It re-rolls items to something else it could have spawned as, so a hidden room-item gets re-rolled to another hidden room-item, same with Shop, boss and treasure rooms
[QUOTE=~Myst;35042348]That's pretty true. I hate when mom's heart/it lives has a room 50 trillion rooms away from the spawn.
Also, does D6 roll from ANY items? As in, can you get satan room items in treasure rooms?[/QUOTE]
D6 only rolls from items that are possible for that location
Treasure Room/shop/begger itemscan only be found in treasure room/shop/begger
Secret room items only in secret room
Satan/Fallen items can only be satan/fallen items.
You cannot, as far as I know, reroll to get the Dollar, Blood Bag, Lump of Coal, or Skatole. Rerolling them will result in a treasure room item instead.
If you get a begger item pedestal into a certain room through the use of a Judgement card, I believe all items will be forced into that item type. All I know is that attempting to reroll a cube of meat with a begger item will turn them both into cubes of meat. I haven't experimented with the special rooms like devil rooms. I'll give it a try later today if I manage to find a judgement card.
Wait, so what happens if you reroll with krampuses coal? Will it stay as coal or be any treasure room item?
[QUOTE=~Myst;35042967]Wait, so what happens if you reroll with krampuses coal? Will it stay as coal or be any treasure room item?[/QUOTE]
It turns into any Devil Room item, but doesn't require hearts to pickup.
Speaking of devil room, I found a fantastic use for the card that spawns a beggar: bring it to a devil room, spawn him, and get the item from him: he drops a devil room item. Then if you have a d6, you can roll all three devil room items for 3 others, so you're nearly guaranteed to get something you want.
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I've also found a way to use the D6 an infinite amount of times on the depths level. You need the charging battery, and it's also nice to have the other battery, too. Go to a bomb fly room, wait till you get the 3 charges, then shoot a fly when he's near a door, exit, and re-enter the room to start charging more. Forced the game to give me max's head this way, charging my D6 over and over and going to an item room again and again.
[QUOTE=postal;35046996]Speaking of devil room, I found a fantastic use for the card that spawns a trader: bring it to a devil room, spawn him, and get the item from him: he drops a devil room item. Then if you have a d6, you can roll all three devil room items for 3 others, so you're nearly guaranteed to get something you want.
[editline]8th March 2012[/editline]
I've also found a way to use the D6 an infinite amount of times on the depths level. You need the charging battery, and it's also nice to have the other battery, too. Go to a bomb fly room, wait till you get the 3 charges, then shoot a fly when he's near a door, exit, and re-enter the room to start charging more. Forced the game to give me max's head this way, charging my D6 over and over and going to an item room again and again.[/QUOTE]
You can do that more easily if you have the X-ray Specs and the Battery and then walking back and forth between the secret room and an adjacent. It doesn't require that you risk damaging yourself on an exploding enemy, plus it doesn't require an explosion in the first place, so it'll work with any enemy combination. Unfortunately, it only works with the secret room and no others.
Fetus in a Jar works the best as it will work for any room (excluding boss rooms) and doesn't require exploding enemies to be present. It's just far easier to hurt yourself in the process, but if you're at the skill level to exploit that, you should be just fine as far as safety is concerned.
Yeah those work better, but obviously you need more items to do it. Lots of fun to be had with that charging battery.
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This run is turning out great so far
[QUOTE=AlphaAGENT;35058062][IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/34i1iz6.png[/IMG]
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This run is turning out great so far[/QUOTE]
At first, this picture confused me, and then I got to thinking. Wouldn't a rare doppelganger-esque item be kind of neat? Like a follower that gets the same powerups you have at that point, and follows you like brother bobby does, but it's possible for it to die (or some other downside I guess)
how about a spacebar item that spawns a clone that the enemies attack but the clone does no damage and only has the equivalent of two hearts
I want to see some sort of projectile reflector spacebar
I'd use them purely for the gut rooms. And maybe gishes.
[QUOTE=bunnyspy1;35059400]how about a spacebar item that spawns a clone that the enemies attack but the clone does no damage and only has the equivalent of two hearts[/QUOTE]
Edmund did say that he had added a bunch of items that trade hearts for upgrades. The move Substitute from the Pokemon series sounds exactly like how an item like that would work: deal self-damage and you spawn a dummy that enemies will attack instead of you.
I would imagine that passive upgrades are passed onto the dummy as well. Imagine spawning a dummy with Poison Touch only for all the baddies to go suck on some DoT :v:
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Also I [url=http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/302345963979158078]asked Edmund[/url] about that on his formspring. He said he added one like that, nice prediction.
holy shit, had two bs playthroughs in one sitting
killed the devil with Cain, unlocking ???
then going through again with ??? killing the devil once more
Just beat mom for the first time.
Now.
Let's do it again.
I recently found out a good combination of items that would usually be considered "crappy" or "decent" my reflection + the parasite works pretty well, I've killed mom's heart and satan with that combo
My reflection + Tammy's Head= Amazing
It clears almost any room of enemies, and it takes 1 room to recharge.
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