Dota 2 General Chat XXII - Heros aren't the only things being remade... - Games

Also, I never got why people teleport to the cliffs. Why would you ever do it? Jungling with treants is a fucking lot faster in every way and same amount of risky because you are stuck for 50 seconds on top of a cliff that anyone can hit you on(except melee)

[QUOTE=Rarara;40170031]Also, I never got why people teleport to the cliffs. Why would you ever do it? Jungling with treants is a fucking lot faster in every way and same amount of risky because you are stuck for 50 seconds on top of a cliff that anyone can hit you on(except melee)[/QUOTE] You don't have to spend as much money on mana regen and your skill build is usually better for ganking. Usually if you cliff jungle you are mostly ganking to supplement your slower jungling, where as normal treant jungling is more focused on farming.

I love randoming a support and being able to get sentry wards and observer wards. There is something so satisfying about dewarding.

killing an observer ward is just wasting 75 of the enemy support's gold thats why its so satisfying

[QUOTE=nmagain;40170263]killing an observer ward is just wasting 75 of the enemy support's gold thats why its so satisfying[/QUOTE] it ssatisfying because most supports will react one of two ways; 1- "oh fuck that shit im not warding anymore those fucking try-hards" 2- "oh it's on motherfucker I can be a try hard too, I'll out-deward the shit out of you."

which will be a disadvantage for the other team in both cases ;)

heh, skywrath mage's staff is basically venge's weapon on a stick

[QUOTE=Constructor;40170382]heh, skywrath mage's staff is basically venge's weapon on a stick[/QUOTE] Bird technology has... marked limits.

If you know the enemy placed a ward in 1 particular location, such as your base. Is it worth buying a sentry ward just to get rid of it despite you having spent more gold in the end?

yes. it CAN be in a vital spot that you cant just avoid walking through for 6 minutes, cant it?

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40170462]If you know the enemy placed a ward in 1 particular location, such as your base. Is it worth buying a sentry ward just to get rid of it despite you having spent more gold in the end?[/QUOTE] Definitely. The enemy team having less vision gives you a TON of advantages such as better ganking, more map awareness and control then them. It's why the entrance to the Roshan pit is always warded and counter warded - the ability to know if the whole enemy team is doing Roshan is invaluable.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;40169546]From Reddit [thumb]http://dota2.gameguyz.com/sites/default/files/1364958806.jpg[/thumb] Apparently leaked picture of Skywrath, Elder Titan and Abbadon[/QUOTE] That little pet thing that was added ages ago is there too.

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40170462]If you know the enemy placed a ward in 1 particular location, such as your base. Is it worth buying a sentry ward just to get rid of it despite you having spent more gold in the end?[/QUOTE] Just always remember this rule; A sentry ward is 200 gold. A kill is about 350 gold. For either you OR the enemy. I'll let it sink in.

[QUOTE=Oldaveragejoe;40170209]I love randoming a support and being able to get sentry wards and observer wards. There is something so satisfying about dewarding.[/QUOTE] When you go to deward, and every time you go, you find the other dudes haven't bought any wards, and you're not sure if that's funny or sad.

Sometimes I've seen pro teams actually spotting a ward, but act like they haven't seen it. In doing so they bait a gank, but set up a counter-gank just outside the ward's vision. Knowledge is key.

[QUOTE=neos300;40170131]You don't have to spend as much money on mana regen and your skill build is usually better for ganking. Usually if you cliff jungle you are mostly ganking to supplement your slower jungling, where as normal treant jungling is more focused on farming.[/QUOTE] Everyone who does it are however oblivious to this whole "ganking" thing [editline]5th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=nmagain;40170356]which will be a disadvantage for the other team in both cases ;)[/QUOTE] Person A destroys person Bs ward Person B destroys both of person As wards Person A destroys person Bs wards again! Person B has the last sentry ward so he wins the duel. How is it a disadvantage for person B.

[QUOTE=Rarara;40170672]Person A destroys person Bs ward Person B destroys both of person As wards Person A destroys person Bs wards again! Person B has the last sentry ward so he wins the duel. How is it a disadvantage for person B.[/QUOTE] because person B pays more gold at the end and gets the same result as before the "duel" even began

Also, person B will have to buy another pack of wards.

and observer wards will most likely be on cooldown from the shop for team B after that happens

[QUOTE=nmagain;40170739]because person B pays more gold at the end and gets the same result as before the "duel" even began[/QUOTE] Person A wards with observers every time he dewards, and person B manages to get the sentry in range because he knows where the ward is. So Person A loses 2 observers and 2 sentries, and person B loses 2 observers and 1 sentry, with 1 sentry still on the ground.

[QUOTE=nmagain;40170496]yes. it CAN be in a vital spot that you cant just avoid walking through for 6 minutes, cant it?[/QUOTE] I hate being seen for 6 minutes

[QUOTE=titopei;40170853]I hate being seen for 6 minutes[/QUOTE] Early game it makes one helluva difference to how your lanes go. Late game not as much, but it's still useful.

[QUOTE=Rarara;40170830]Person A wards with observers every time he dewards, and person B manages to get the sentry in range because he knows where the ward is. So Person A loses 2 observers and 2 sentries, and person B loses 2 observers and 1 sentry, with 1 sentry still on the ground.[/QUOTE] You guys make it sound like this ward/deward happens in a vaccum where no hungry Nighstalkers or Nyxes run around their support who mentioned other gank-food to be dewarding.

Man I love when I can't connect to the Dota 2 Network when there is a tournament match going on

My game is completely fucked, can't connect to anything and the live games tab is completely borked.

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;40170918]Early game it makes one helluva difference to how your lanes go. Late game not as much, but it's still useful.[/QUOTE] Yeah, mid will have to tp or smoke unless no one pays attention to wards

Its been finding server for 2 minutes now is this normal?

Please someone help me. I'm feeding every match, and i cant stop it. I didnt see any faces of big items for awhile.

[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;40173069]Its been finding server for 2 minutes now is this normal?[/QUOTE] The hell? It takes like 4-6 minutes for me to find one.

[QUOTE=Vault;40173547]The hell? It takes like 4-6 minutes for me to find one.[/QUOTE] You sure it isn't 4-6 minutes to find match, not find server?