Dota 2 General Chat XXIII - You can't go wrong with 6 boots - Games

[QUOTE==DarkStar=;40260652]You know you lost the game when someone skip core items and goes right after rapier.[/QUOTE] youve never played juggernaut have you

I just saw a medusa go lvl 1 ancient holy shit

[QUOTE=titopei;40262302]I just saw a medusa go lvl 1 ancient holy shit[/QUOTE] and?

Do I need an and? I guess it fucked up our lanes but we still won

[QUOTE=titopei;40262467]Do I need an and? I guess it fucked up our lanes but we still won[/QUOTE] it's surprisingly effective if the enemy team doesn't just ward the camp

[QUOTE=Unisath;40262473]it's surprisingly effective if the enemy team doesn't just ward the camp[/QUOTE] And pubs don't usually ward the ancients until past 20 mins

wait what? medusa on ancients at level 1? mana shield i assume?

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40262731]wait what? medusa on ancients at level 1? mana shield i assume?[/QUOTE] No, split shot [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyDJPV7pxrE[/media]

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40262731]wait what? medusa on ancients at level 1? mana shield i assume?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLuq7hyBXh8[/media]

oh thats awesome, it might actually be possible to do well with her without waiting 60 minutes if you use that method

Getting Disruptor as the only support in AR with a PA and playing against a Mirana Zeus Windrunner roaming squad is not fun I literally could not exist on the map And then fucking Lifestealer jumps out of Mirana who was apparently invis right by the spot I was going to ward It was horrifying

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40262795]oh thats awesome, it might actually be possible to do well with her without waiting 60 minutes if you use that method[/QUOTE] Well after a certain point you kill the ancients so fast that if you're a real Medusa player you need to look for more farm and keep the camp stacked. And if the enemies buy a single sight ward (or even gank you once or twice), you're fucked. Risky if you're against good players.

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40262795]oh thats awesome, it might actually be possible to do well with her without waiting 60 minutes if you use that method[/QUOTE] It was my first time seeing it also. I thought it was just brs being brs so I just minded my own, but it had a good ending.

Can't even find a game now, they broke it

Does anyone else sell all their items right as they win and build a Dagon 5 in the hopes that people will see your match history and see that you've always won with just a Dagon 5

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40262795]oh thats awesome, it might actually be possible to do well with her without waiting 60 minutes if you use that method[/QUOTE] It works with alchemist and tinker as well.

Troll warlord with mkb is super fun. Stun lock people all day.

[QUOTE=gardian90;40263139]It works with alchemist and tinker as well.[/QUOTE] Could it theoretically work with Luna and glaives?

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;40261370]Why people say "gg wp" after feeding and getting owned? fuck off and die.[/QUOTE] Its either you have no clue what to get mad at and trying to join in the thread, or you are a gigantic prick which no one would want the pleasure to play with.

[QUOTE=Unisath;40263239]Could it theoretically work with Luna and glaives?[/QUOTE] her attack range sucks

Easy 6 min midas with Medusa on the ancients (Radiant only!). Pray that the enemy isn't smart enough to pay attention to the lanes and when they accidentally ward your farming you unleash the FURY. [QUOTE=kidkiller745;40263243]Its either you have no clue what to get mad at and trying to join in the thread, or you are a gigantic prick which no one would want the pleasure to play with.[/QUOTE] This post has pleasing symmetry.

[QUOTE=ghosevil;40263668]Easy 6 min midas with Medusa on the ancients (Radiant only!). Pray that the enemy isn't smart enough to pay attention to the lanes and when they accidentally ward your farming you unleash the FURY. This post has pleasing symmetry.[/QUOTE] She had a 20 minute linkens and that's with other items.

Jungling ancients at a reasonably fast pace requires range and either AoE damage that works on ancients, or very high single target damage. 2 heroes I've found that can do it reliably and quickly: Tinker and Medusa Alchemist & Beastmaster can't autoattack which greatly slows their speed. Both can stack the camp from a good range though, which means they shouldn't be jungling at the camp permanently, but instead side/midlaning and stacking it when they can. Venomancer can use his wards. As long as he is close enough to the ancients, they ignore the wards even if they would be closer. This isn't as fast as with Tinker or Medusa, and the wards make it really fucking hard to stack the camps unless you micro them really well. Not worthwhile really, if you want to jungle don't do ancients as they require stacking. Sniper has enough range, but he has so low damage that it would take him 15 minutes ro reach level 5. Luna has enough DPS, but no range. Huskar with lifesteal and high Berserker's Blood, or Ursa with vlads can sustain it, but that takes a long while to reach and can't be done at lvl 1 as they both require lifesteal and enoguh damage to outheal the ancients. Venomancer is the only pet-type jungler who can do this as his wards are buildings (treated the same by creep AI) and they are ignored by creeps if there is another good target near, but normal pets (lycan wolves, undying's creeps) will get damaged.

agility heroes beyond supports/earlygame gankers are lame discuss

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40264097]agility heroes beyond supports/earlygame gankers are lame discuss[/QUOTE] invalid because nyx is the king of lame

PL/AM/Void are boring as fuck to play. They feel like oh man I've had two loses in a row time to farm for 40 mins and roll my face across the keyboard for a victory.

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40264097]agility heroes beyond supports/earlygame gankers are lame discuss[/QUOTE] mirana and juggernaut break that rule imo maybe gyro too

[QUOTE=Unisath;40264159]mirana and juggernaut break that rule imo maybe gyro too[/QUOTE] mirana = earlygame ganker gyro CAN be an earlygame ganker but it's only worth it if you're mid jug ok i guess

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40264165]mirana = earlygame ganker gyro CAN be an earlygame ganker but it's only worth it if you're mid jug ok i guess[/QUOTE] mirana can do way more than earlygame ganking though which is why she breaks that rule, same with gyro

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40261427]I'm honestly more offended when the most fed guy is the first to say "gg"[/QUOTE] Depends on the circumstances. I've been the most fed guy on the winning team, saying gg before anybody else because it was legitimately a gg. Imo there's too much focus on it being a standard game-ender nowadays and not enough on what it actually means: [b]good[/b] game. [QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40264141]invalid because nyx is the king of lame[/QUOTE] Agreed, fucking hate nyx. Powerful AoE stun with a mere 11 seconds cd, very powerful nuke/manaburn with just [b]4 fucking seconds cooldown[/b] and an ability that blocks all incoming damage once per source ánd stuns that source. I tend to not even know wtf to pick against the fucker. [QUOTE=-nesto-;40264142]PL/AM/Void are boring as fuck to play. They feel like oh man I've had two loses in a row time to farm for 40 mins and roll my face across the keyboard for a victory.[/QUOTE] I find AM to be fun to play actually. PL feels incredibly unfair, Void is farm farm farm farm some more start farming heroes while farming in between with no change to his behaviour (jump in, chrono if needed, autoattack). AM can do some amazing mindgames/jukes/chases with Blink.