Dota 2 General Chat XXIII - You can't go wrong with 6 boots - Games

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[QUOTE=Bordellimies;40288101]Speaking of Butterfly, does anyone else like it as non-agility heroes? That thing grants +60 attack speed, +30 damage (additional +30 if agility) and 30% evasion and about 4 armor. Pretty fun item for someone like Furion. Haven't bought on Axe but it seems like a solid item choice if he doesn't need to go full tank.[/QUOTE] For that, sange into heaven's halberd is much MUCH better and cheaper. [editline]15th April 2013[/editline] i meant for axe anyway

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;40288101]Speaking of Butterfly, does anyone else like it as non-agility heroes? That thing grants +60 attack speed, +30 damage (additional +30 if agility) and 30% evasion and about 4 armor. Pretty fun item for someone like Furion. Haven't bought on Axe but it seems like a solid item choice if he doesn't need to go full tank.[/QUOTE] Tiny with the obligatory Agha, but then along with Assault Cuirass go for Butterfly. Add some boots (travels, mana, treads or phases even?) and BKB for a little bit of free swinging time in team fights and it sounds pretty beast to me.

[QUOTE=Liquidrocks;40287925]If Skadi stacks with Dragon Knight's slow, damn; that's like a complete Upheaval on every autoattack.[/QUOTE] Same could apply to Drow's Q; if Skadi's slow stacks with Frost Arrows, it'd certainly be overkill.

[QUOTE=ironman17;40289711]Same could apply to Drow's Q; if Skadi's slow stacks with Frost Arrows, it'd certainly be overkill.[/QUOTE] It doesn't work with Drow's, on the other hand I know it works with DK, as I did Divine Challenge, and ended up going skadi on DK. [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/25278619[/url]

Skadi+Dominator(+Mjollnir) on Troll Warlord is fun.

I can't even TRY heros that I've never played now. One guy in our team has to leave for 2 min and the assholes with 300 wins in the enemy team (I had 160, why matchmaking sucks so much?) had to unpause every time and act like assholes when they kill some of us or when we make a very little mistake. We ended up losing 2 vs 4 because half of the team disconnects (Me and Sniper). I hate pubs

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40286563] holy shit naga has a base 320 movement speed? why didnt i notice this before[/QUOTE] Naga and Pugna. ~need 4 speed~

[QUOTE=Endzeit7;40289953]I can't even TRY heros that I've never played now. One guy in our team has to leave for 2 min and the assholes with 300 wins in the enemy team (I had 160, why matchmaking sucks so much?) had to unpause every time and act like assholes when they kill some of us or when we make a very little mistake. We ended up losing 2 vs 4 because half of the team disconnects (Me and Sniper). I hate pubs[/QUOTE] Well at least you tried. Go for a Blinkdagger before BKB though. In a more serious note, open the chat for your nation and see if you have people to play with. Sure they're still technically pubs, but it feels much more like a team and it goes better.

[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;40289752]It doesn't work with Drow's, on the other hand I know it works with DK, as I did Divine Challenge, and ended up going skadi on DK. [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/25278619[/url][/QUOTE] Iirc it stacks with drow's arrows, but only if manually cast.

[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;40289752]It doesn't work with Drow's, on the other hand I know it works with DK, as I did Divine Challenge, and ended up going skadi on DK. [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/25278619[/url][/QUOTE] Don't forget Clinkz yo. It stacks on autocast.

[QUOTE=Chickens!;40289985]Naga and Pugna. ~need 4 speed~[/QUOTE] The two of them make a pretty good team. Naga nets 'em, and Pugna life drains the shit out them.

[QUOTE=maxumym;40290361]Don't forget Clinkz yo. It stacks on autocast.[/QUOTE] Which is still the nastiest fucking thing ever for Clinkz to get after his Orchid, also makes him hella tanky. [QUOTE=dire_luck;40290445]The two of them make a pretty good team. Naga nets 'em, and Pugna life drains the shit out them.[/QUOTE] Naga overall is a great hero, imo. Just a shame her ult is so incredibly team-based, as it means the odds of being able to play her in a useful way with most random people are slim to none.

Skadi Clinkz? Sounds gnarly. Speaking of Clinkz, it's probably for the best that his Ult doesn't work on Ancients; he'd get pretty well fed that way.

[QUOTE=ironman17;40290544]Skadi Clinkz? Sounds gnarly. Speaking of Clinkz, it's probably for the best that his Ult doesn't work on Ancients; he'd get pretty well fed that way.[/QUOTE] And he'd get a large Hp and damage bonus.

That too; pretty gnarly would it be. The sight of a Clinkz emerging from the jungle would be even more "OH SHIT" than normal.

[QUOTE=ironman17;40290544]Skadi Clinkz? Sounds gnarly. Speaking of Clinkz, it's probably for the best that his Ult doesn't work on Ancients; he'd get pretty well fed that way.[/QUOTE] Some friends and I worked something out a few weeks ago. If you've got an Enchantress and a Chen on opposing teams, then Enchantress is able to temporarily steal one of Chen's converted creeps long enough for Chen to re-steal it. The kicker? Chen's creep health bonus stacks. This week in WTF we sent a packleader to fight Roshan from 2 Chens and a referee Rubick, with 107,500 health. Idle chat led to us wondering just how much of a buff Clinkz could earn by chewing through one of these supercharged creeps.

[QUOTE=ironman17;40290582]That too; pretty gnarly would it be. The sight of a Clinkz emerging from the jungle would be even more "OH SHIT" than normal.[/QUOTE] The image of clinkz uninvising already makes me shit my pants

Skeleton King skill ceiling goes down everytime he levels. Also learning how to armlet toggling is both real handy to just cough up health, and baiting enemies into fighting you. only to crit thier asses and get 1/4th health back. Any tips on Skeleton King?

[QUOTE=Fury McFlurry;40292064]Any tips on Skeleton King?[/QUOTE] click on stuff [editline]15th April 2013[/editline] but really max your stun first 100% of the time generally it's ideal to get stats at levels 2 and 4 since skeleton king has like no mana otherwise you can get one level of vampiric aura while laning only, I prefer maxing crits before it anyway phase is actually really good since skeleton king is a slow fuck forcestaff does the same job but its recent-ish lack of dps stats makes it unreliable now bkb is essential BUT don't pop it until after reincarnation unless you feel like you won't be dying in the fight [editline]stuff[/editline] luxury items: rapier, aegis, refresher alternative luxury items: mkb, abyssal, heart, ac, mjollnir, desolator

[QUOTE=devon_wargod;40292076]click on stuff [editline]15th April 2013[/editline] but really max your stun first 100% of the time generally it's ideal to get stats at levels 2 and 4 since skeleton king has like no mana otherwise you can get one level of vampiric aura while laning only, I prefer maxing crits before it anyway phase is actually really good since skeleton king is a slow fuck forcestaff does the same job but its recent-ish lack of dps stats makes it unreliable now bkb is essential BUT don't pop it until after reincarnation unless you feel like you won't be dying in the fight [editline]stuff[/editline] luxury items: rapier, aegis, refresher alternative luxury items: mkb, abyssal, heart, ac, mjollnir, desolator[/QUOTE] I usualy get bracer if I get early first blood, threads, armlet, BKB and last Heart. (maybe drums if noone else gets it)

I'm starting to get the hang of tinker [url]http://dotabuff.com/matches/174001613[/url]

So... me and my friends were arguing whether Necrolyte is a carry or not...

[QUOTE=fhASSA;40292521]So... me and my friends were arguing whether Necrolyte is a carry or not...[/QUOTE] He's a semi carry that needs farm to build tank items.

[QUOTE=fhASSA;40292521]So... me and my friends were arguing whether Necrolyte is a carry or not...[/QUOTE] Yes.

[QUOTE=fhASSA;40292521]So... me and my friends were arguing whether Necrolyte is a carry or not...[/QUOTE] he needs farm, has two skills that involve getting last hits on things, a spammable nuke, and an aura that deals damage simply because he [b][u]exists[/u][/b] he benefits greatly from health and on a smaller extent mana pool [editline]15th April 2013[/editline] carry

[QUOTE=fhASSA;40292521]So... me and my friends were arguing whether Necrolyte is a carry or not...[/QUOTE] it seems like a lot of people dont know what a carry is a carry is someone who is weak early game (hence, supports carrying them) while late game, with farm, they will carry you to victory so necro is a semi carry, its very rare that he will be the one to carry your team, but he has a huge presence and destroys as fights drag on

[QUOTE=ironman17;40290582]That too; pretty gnarly would it be. The sight of a Clinkz emerging from the jungle would be even more "OH SHIT" than normal.[/QUOTE] Imagine if he became bigger when eating a creep "OH SHIT A SKELETON"

[QUOTE=Naught;40292615]it seems like a lot of people dont know what a carry is a carry is someone who is weak early game (hence, supports carrying them) while late game, with farm, they will carry you to victory so necro is a semi carry, its very rare that he will be the one to carry your team, but he has a huge presence and destroys as fights drag on[/QUOTE] not necessarily weak early game (especially not in lane, in fact i'd say most hard carries are fantastic laners), they just make the most out of farm. supports carry in the sense that they fill a second slot in lane as an aggressor to take as much heat off the carry as possible

[QUOTE=leonthefox;40292823]Imagine if he became bigger when eating a creep "OH SHIT A SKELETON"[/QUOTE] kinda like undying reminds me of going into wtf mode as him and growing to be the size of the screen