Dota 2 General Chat XXIII - You can't go wrong with 6 boots - Games

i found out why servers are shitty, disable US east and they should clear up. We had a really bad storm down here so maybe it knocked the server station offline.

amazing so all my sand king games where i can actually get blink epi off without something fucking up i lost but my first sand king win it's the one where my shift key completely says "fuck you devon" and fails to shiftqueue blinking AFTER channeling epi

[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;40252583][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0toTXbU.png[/IMG] M I GOOD MEEPO XDDDDD He literally had a free lane for over 10 minutes when I called for constant ganks, he moved all meepos as one at all times and literally would just stand in the middle and poof to kills. I am not saying he is bad, its just there is a big diffirence between playing meepo and getting kills and being good at meepo.[/QUOTE] ... that meepo [url=http://dotabuff.com/matches/171032321]actually was good,[/url] he finished 16-0-9 and at level 25, which was 7 levels above the next person. ignoring the fact that you just described "being good" and somehow managed to say he wasn't, he was destroying all over the place.

[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;40249265]best furion [t]http://i.imgur.com/K6F1R6c.png[/t][/QUOTE] Why should there be only one best Furion? I can't decide between my two loadouts. [t]http://puu.sh/2yvF4[/t] [t]http://puu.sh/2yvDF[/t] Why not both yellow Furion [I]and [/I]bluerunestonething Furion?

[QUOTE=Erector Beast;40253048]... that meepo [url=http://dotabuff.com/matches/171032321]actually was good,[/url] he finished 16-0-9 and at level 25, which was 7 levels above the next person. ignoring the fact that you just described "being good" and somehow managed to say he wasn't, he was destroying all over the place.[/QUOTE] The lvl differance isn't a valid indicator of a good Meepo, since the copies boost his exp gain exponentially. Also, he did get a lot of kills and no deaths, but it's easy to snowball as Meepo, sorta like how it's easy to snowball as PA and then overpower everything with little effort or ability. Yes, he did well, but from what Quinn said it seems he wasn't that great of a Meepo player because he can be used way more effectively with skill. Just because he got kills dosen't mean he's that good, since if what Quinn said is true, he was doing no mico and getting kills just by overpowering people with large numbers. It was effective, but not good. [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=devon_wargod;40253020]amazing so all my sand king games where i can actually get blink epi off without something fucking up i lost but my first sand king win it's the one where my shift key completely says "fuck you devon" and fails to shiftqueue blinking AFTER channeling epi[/QUOTE] When I play sand king and get a blink dagger, I use it to position myself so that my burrow strike will stun most if not all of the enemies in the area, then channel my ult while they're all stunned. Works like a charm, and sometimes I don't even need the blink to start with, so I can use it to chase down anyone who escapes my wrath.

I find it almost impossible to play Sand King without Blink, every time I try to channel my ult I get (mini)stunned unless I'm so far away it's pointless to ever try and ult.

[quote][url=http://i.imgur.com/HIDXNV8.jpg] [img]http://i.imgur.com/HIDXNV8.jpg[/img] [/url][/quote] woo 10 game win streak new record

Anyone can recommend a video editing software for after effects like in the dota 2 origin video or MLG pro ones? Adobe, sony or ?

[QUOTE=Quinnjdq;40252583][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0toTXbU.png[/IMG] M I GOOD MEEPO XDDDDD He literally had a free lane for over 10 minutes when I called for constant ganks, he moved all meepos as one at all times and literally would just stand in the middle and poof to kills. I am not saying he is bad, its just there is a big diffirence between playing meepo and getting kills and being good at meepo.[/QUOTE] Unless the other team was really really bad, I just can't see how this guy isn't good. He didn't die a single time, farmed two Ethereal Blades, which is completely legit, and pretty much carried the game. Carries don't gank and that particularly applies to Meepo, you just don't gank at 10 minutes into the game. I'll have to watch a replay of that to judge, but honestly judging from his build and his final score, he doesn't seem bad at all. [editline]a[/editline] Oh you were actually on the other team. Well if no one actually bothered ganking him, your team probably sucked so that explains why he snowballed so hard. :v: [editline]a[/editline] What kind of Omniknight build is that anyway?

[QUOTE=_Kilburn;40253602]Unless the other team was really really bad, I just can't see how this guy isn't good. He didn't die a single time, farmed two Ethereal Blades, which is completely legit, and pretty much carried the game. Carries don't gank and that particularly applies to Meepo, you just don't gank at 10 minutes into the game. I'll have to watch a replay of that to judge, but honestly judging from his build and his final score, he doesn't seem bad at all. [editline]a[/editline] Oh you were actually on the other team. Well if no one actually bothered ganking him, your team probably sucked so that explains why he snowballed so hard. :v:[/QUOTE] Moving all Meepos at all time is extremely inefficient and pretty much the exact opposite of how Meepo should be used. That he was able to get away with it doesn't mean he was good.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40253628]Moving all Meepos at all time is extremely inefficient and pretty much the exact opposite of how Meepo should be used. That he was able to get away with it doesn't mean he was good.[/QUOTE] But he was on the opposite team, how did he know for sure that guy was sticking all his Meepos together at all time? Judging from his GPM, maybe he was farming the jungle hard while no one was looking. Unless he got all that gold from kills.

So I'm apparently now in "HIGH" bracket, whatever that means, which could explain the sudden influx of amazing games. I'm pretty happy about it.

[QUOTE=I am Error;40253681]So I'm apparently now in "HIGH" bracket, whatever that means, which could explain the sudden influx of amazing games. I'm pretty happy about it.[/QUOTE] i've been stuck in very high and high for a while it sucks and I wish I was in a lower tier, can't ever get a relaxing game, everyone is super tense and everyone talks shit

I hate and love randoming clinkz. Why? He's a pretty fun hero for me. Cant really explain why, maybe its the arrows high damage, or how if he's a bit neglected he destroys everyone. And thats it. Every time I random him, nobody bothers to ward or dust me until I'm a monster that can't be stopped. Its like no one really bothers with me. I usually get sent to the suicide lane alone, and nobody even ganks me or attempts to take a jab at me. I can.just stay in lane for as long as I want and rush orchid . And usually, I end up tearing them in half and getting some nice stuff unless something bad happens... But, when I dont random clinkz, I get double countered and get so fucked it isnt funny. I really want to play clinkz more, but its so shakey. Either I'm the neglected skeleton in the lane or I'm the hunt of the day.

[QUOTE=_Kilburn;40253664]But he was on the opposite team, how did he know for sure that guy was sticking all his Meepos together at all time? Judging from his GPM, maybe he was farming the jungle hard while no one was looking. Unless he got all that gold from kills.[/QUOTE] I haven't actually watched the game yet, but that gpm doesn't look like splitfarming to me when he's 16/0/9. [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=dass;40253704]I hate and love randoming clinkz. Why? He's a pretty fun hero for me. Cant really explain why, maybe its the arrows high damage, or how if he's a bit neglected he destroys everyone. And thats it. Every time I random him, nobody bothers to ward or dust me until I'm a monster that can't be stopped. Its like no one really bothers with me. I usually get sent to the suicide lane alone, and nobody even ganks me or attempts to take a jab at me. I can.just stay in lane for as long as I want and rush orchid . And usually, I end up tearing them in half and getting some nice stuff unless something bad happens... But, when I dont random clinkz, I get double countered and get so fucked it isnt funny. I really want to play clinkz more, but its so shakey. Either I'm the neglected skeleton in the lane or I'm the hunt of the day.[/QUOTE] Same here, and I both hate and love playing against him for the same reason. He's so easily countered, and he's so damn squishy, but half the time nobody bothers with it until he's too far gone already.

Shadowblade Slark, legit or not?

[QUOTE=Parja;40253720]Shadowblade Slark, legit or not?[/QUOTE] Not the best but could be useful for if your ult is on CD..

[QUOTE=Parja;40253720]Shadowblade Slark, legit or not?[/QUOTE] No, useless. He doesn't need stealth at all. His ult gives him 'stealth' to an extent and his leap is your escape/initiation. You can get much better items for tankyness or damage.

[QUOTE=C47;40253593]Anyone can recommend a video editing software for after effects like in the dota 2 origin video or MLG pro ones? Adobe, sony or ?[/QUOTE] Sony Vegas is very good as it pretty much comes with all the premade effects to do all the stupid dubstep crap, it's as easy as dragging the desired effect from a list onto the clip that you want and you can animate it from there

I can still see why people get it, initiation and good positioning for pounces, good damage and attack speed for essence shift, and when the ult is on cooldown, he can use it for clutch regen in teamfights. Not the best, but it fits him pretty ok. Shadowblade -> autoattack -> pounce -> dark pact gives a pretty decent burst, and the ult can then be used if shit goes south.

You could have a better item rather than Shadowblade though, giving more damage output or health. It's only really needed on people who don't have an escape or are squishy.

Depends on how you run Slark, as a durable anti-carry or as an aggressive ganker. When you go PMS/Wand/Phase and a fast level 6 from mid and then gank the rest of the game, Shadowblade wouldn't be bad imo.

You don't need phase boots on Slark, they're pointless. You get 522 movement speed at level 3 ult and around 470 with carry items when sighted.

Shadowblade isn't bad on Slark. Trannyalert has 9 games played with Slark and none of them he has experiemented with Shadow Blade, I would take his opinion on it with a grain of salt.

It's not hard to build at all and the maths work out in the end. I don't think I've lost a lane in those 9 games with the build I've used. In the end it's all maths and stats

No, in the end all that matters is what works, not what looks best on paper. Phase on Slark is good because he is reliant on positioning and juking to be effective. One level in passive will give him an insanely good ability to trade hits with the enemy mid, especially if they are squishy or a strength hero. Phase gives him the ability to punch people in their stupid faces and get the right angle for a pounce with ease.

Phase can be good early game but it gets crappy pretty fast. Treads are much better for the switching and attack speed. Pounce is hard to miss anyway unless you haven't learned how to use it yet.

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;40253910]Phase can be good early game but it gets crappy pretty fast. Treads are much better for the switching and attack speed. Pounce is hard to miss anyway unless you haven't learned how to use it yet.[/QUOTE] Please, are you trying to argue the 8 stat change and attack speed are better for a heavy ganker who deals the most damage with abilities? What are you even gonna do with the stat change? It's not like health survivability is a big issue on Slark with the passive on his ultimate.

I build him where his right clicking is his main source of damage, his pounce and pact is there just for the usage.

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;40253930]I build him where his right clicking is his main source of damage, his pounce and pact is there just for the usage.[/QUOTE] So would you agree that not getting a Shadowblade isn't useful for your obscure build that doesn't take advantage of his heavy damage abilities, and would be better suited for someone who plays him correctly and uses them?