Dota 2 General Chat XXIII - You can't go wrong with 6 boots - Games

I hope they add loadouts for each hero like TF2.

[QUOTE=l l;40253941]So would you agree that not getting a Shadowblade is bad for your obscure build that doesn't take advantage of his excellent abilities, and would be better suited for someone who plays him correctly and uses them?[/QUOTE] Shadow blade has no use for initiation, escape or burst damage on Slark because his 'excellent abilities' cover all those aspects. Alert said he takes advantage of his abilities, as shown by him saying that they're there for the utility, but not allowing a hero that gains a passive bonus from autoattacking to actually use his aa is just ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure those 3000 gold could go into something better. Yasha, Armlet, Basher, 3/4 of an Orchid - all of those are much better choices

[QUOTE=l l;40253941]So would you agree that not getting a Shadowblade isn't useful for your obscure build that doesn't take advantage of his heavy damage abilities, and would be better suited for someone who plays him correctly and uses them?[/QUOTE] Playing Slark correctly means you're also using your autoattacks liberally as one of his skills [b]relies exclusively on those[/b]. Shadow Blade isn't optimal, but it's definitely got potential on Slark.

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;40253973]Shadow blade has no use for initiation, escape or burst damage on Slark because his 'excellent abilities' cover all those aspects. Alert said he takes advantage of his abilities, as shown by him saying that they're there for the utility, but not allowing a hero that gains a passive bonus from autoattacking to actually use his aa is just ridiculous.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40253986]Playing Slark correctly means you're also using your autoattacks liberally as one of his skills [b]relies exclusively on those[/b]. Shadow Blade isn't optimal, but it's definitely got potential on Slark.[/QUOTE] I never said "excellent abilities" and I also never said nor implied that you shouldn't auto-attack, I'm quite aware of his passive and regardless of the hero auto-attacks are always useful.

[QUOTE=l l;40253999]I never said "excellent abilities" and I also never said nor implied that you shouldn't auto-attack, I'm quite aware of his passive and regardless of the hero auto-attacks are always useful.[/QUOTE] You did say "excellent abilities" before you edited it out to replace it with "heavy damage abilities". Don't think I didn't see that.

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;40254015]You did say "excellent abilities" before you edited it out to replace it with "heavy damage abilities". Don't think I didn't see that.[/QUOTE] I edited it within about 5 seconds because his Pounce is a heavy damage nuke and is a giant part of ganking.

[QUOTE=l l;40253941]So would you agree that not getting a Shadowblade isn't useful for your obscure build that doesn't take advantage of his heavy damage abilities, and would be better suited for someone who plays him correctly and uses them?[/QUOTE] please stop talking Shadow Blade is a nothing more than a gimmick item on Slark and Phase Boots are simply the wrong choice of boots for him.

Shadow blade could be said it's nice on everyone in the game for the invis and what not.

Just like a bracer would be good on anyone. Just because it "could be good" doesnt mean you should get Shadow Blade on everyone though.

[QUOTE=Prism;40254053]please stop talking Shadow Blade is a nothing more than a gimmick item on Slark and Phase Boots are simply the wrong choice of boots for him.[/QUOTE] No need to be an ass, I was saying his reasons for picking Treads over Phase weren't the best.

[QUOTE=l l;40254082]No need to be an ass, I was saying his reasons for picking Treads over Phase weren't the best.[/QUOTE] You was the one who started being an ass first, don't backpedal please.

[QUOTE=l l;40254082]No need to be an ass, I was saying his reasons for picking Treads over Phase weren't the best.[/QUOTE] But they [I]are[/I]. You need threads-switching for the times you need "just a little bit of mana" for a Q or W. Slark's abilities cost little mana so switching to INT can go a long way. You also need the attackspeed because of your passive. [editline]0[/editline] Those are way better argument than "his abilities do damage so that means the he doesnt need attack speed".

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;40254095]You was the one who started being an ass first, don't backpedal please.[/QUOTE] I don't see how discussing the item makes me an ass I pointed out that you have never used it and you rarely play Slark, there's no discussion to begin with if everyone thinks and agrees the same things. [QUOTE=Prism;40254104]But they [I]are[/I]. You need threads-switching for the times you need "just a little bit of mana" for a Q or W. Slark's abilities cost little mana so switching to INT can go a long way. You also need the attackspeed because of your passive.[/QUOTE] I wasn't against the attack speed whatsoever, I was discussing the swap.

Why would I want to use it in the first place when I can use my own experience and know there are better picks for him. Slark is my favourite Hero too but I choose to play Heroes I don't like rather than ones I'm good at.

Lothar's on Slark doesn't sound very viable. 3000g for an item that's countered hard by Sentries and Gems, which Slark is already countered by? If you need to get out of a clash, you can pounce over trees and hills. When you have pounced you're likely to be out of the enemy's vision, where your passive will ensure that they don't catch up to you as you regenerate your HP. Then again I've never bought a Shadow Blade over the course of some ~800 matches because I've yet to play 1/4th of the heroes.

Then again Maelstrom for Slark on the other hand..

Only hero I consistently get Shadow Blade on is Gyro. Dunno why, just seems to work way better than Shadow Blade on anyone else.

Sniper also.

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Only hero i get Shadow Blade 100% of the time would be Kunkka.

I get Shadow Blade on Sniper 100% of the time too.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;40254247]Only hero I consistently get Shadow Blade on is Gyro. Dunno why, just seems to work way better than Shadow Blade on anyone else.[/QUOTE] Kunkka for the bonus damage with Tidebringer, WD/CM if I manage it for lol-ult and Gyro because it gives him a great initiation mechanism which is something he lacks.

[QUOTE=mixshifter;40254297]I get Shadow Blade on Sniper 100% of the time too.[/QUOTE] I used to, but I'm more in favour of Phases / Yasha cost efficient holla holla get dolla build.

Good arguments. I still think that if you have dominance mid early on, phase boots can really help out for the midgame ganks, but if you are in a farming or aggressive tri/duo, treads would win out.

[QUOTE=Erector Beast;40253048]... that meepo [url=http://dotabuff.com/matches/171032321]actually was good,[/url] he finished 16-0-9 and at level 25, which was 7 levels above the next person. ignoring the fact that you just described "being good" and somehow managed to say he wasn't, he was destroying all over the place.[/QUOTE] All his enemies look like they are really bad so maybe he just got fed. He did make 2 Ethereal Blades. Either way, maybe quinn just got mad because he was super cocky, rude and COMMEND ME FOR BEING GOOD every third second? I know the type of people and they are unbearable to play with. [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=l l;40253871]Shadowblade isn't bad on Slark. Trannyalert has 9 games played with Slark and none of them he has experiemented with Shadow Blade, I would take his opinion on it with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE] Shadow Blade is a bad idea, you are better off investing your gold on anything else. Like a Diffusal, Eaglestone, Reaver, BKB, etc.

[QUOTE=Parja;40254359]Good arguments. I still think that if you have dominance mid early on, phase boots can really help out for the midgame ganks, but if you are in a farming or aggressive tri/duo, treads would win out.[/QUOTE] I agree they could work early/mid and he is a mid-game champ but if you're dominating that much you would have enough stats to compensate for the Phase Boots. He also drops off badly late game unless you get treads and build tankier.

[QUOTE=l l;40253921]Please, are you trying to argue the 8 stat change and attack speed are better for a heavy ganker who deals the most damage with abilities? What are you even gonna do with the stat change? It's not like health survivability is a big issue on Slark with the passive on his ultimate.[/QUOTE] Except Slark has shit HP and people who aren't retards bring dust or AoE when Slark goes invisible.

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I'm in the Alliance team [editline]12th April 2013[/editline] I'm the one in the middle