Starcraft 2 HOTS v1 Megathread - Kerrigan is coming (USE SPOILERS TILL 28.3.2013) - Games

[QUOTE=zombojoe;40019765]as soon as i started beating this guy ^ in our practice he stopped playing[/QUOTE] As soon as Infestors started getting nerfed I stopped playing. :v: Maybe if you got HotS we could start practicing again, BUT NO YOU'RE TOO BUSY PLAYING CASUAL PAY2WIN PLANETSIDE AND FIGHTING MEN WITH YOUR SWORD. Also Zombo never played the original Contra. JUDGE HIM!

i offer boosting accounts into master in exchange for nothing

So how long until we get nexus wars clones that have the HOTS units in them? I'm suprised I haven't seen any yet (on the top 10 list at least)...

[QUOTE=zombojoe;40020439]i offer boosting accounts into master in exchange for nothing[/QUOTE] I will boost your accounts to Bronze if you give me 10 bucks.

[QUOTE=Itszutak;40020509]So how long until we get nexus wars clones that have the HOTS units in them? I'm suprised I haven't seen any yet (on the top 10 list at least)...[/QUOTE] It's only a matter of time before we get flooded by RP Maps, Anime bullshit and endless risk maps

[QUOTE=wraithcat;40014392]Yes, 160 to a shielded enemy. (125 to non shielded)[/QUOTE] lol why does terran have 2 anti-protoss units? [editline]24th March 2013[/editline] oh wait i forgot protoss is op and always will be

[QUOTE=Clio;40021112]lol why does terran have 2 anti-protoss units? [editline]24th March 2013[/editline] oh wait i forgot protoss is op and always will be[/QUOTE] i dunno for once I think terran is more op than protoss

[QUOTE=Naught;40016595]im sticking to playing against bots (mainly for xp because I need my special snowflake portraits) im too shit at this game[/QUOTE] Wait, you get exp vs bots? It would certainly save me the embarrasment of defeat when playing online.

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;40021506]Wait, you get exp vs bots? It would certainly save me the embarrasment of defeat when playing online.[/QUOTE] yea, as long as it isnt an offline game and its on a blizzard map you can do whatever

Wow, i leveled up 5 levels already vs bots, it's a shame the tactic i use would be almost impossible to do online against players since it requires a opponent that doesn't rush. Either way it's extremely satisfying to see 10 of my battleships decimating zerg and protoss in a firestorm while the stragglers gets blown up when trying to get in to my base, 6+ siege tanks makes wonders...

[QUOTE=Crisis01;40019816]The Facepunch group is a dark and sad place. [img]http://i.imgur.com/8aCaJDR.jpg[/img] (The clan name is an inside joke, don't freak out.)[/QUOTE] hey thats me :) i still remember the secret to getting to masters thx crisis <3 also can i join alpha yolo swag

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;40024278]Wow, i leveled up 5 levels already vs bots, it's a shame the tactic i use would be almost impossible to do online against players since it requires a opponent that doesn't rush. Either way it's extremely satisfying to see 10 of my battleships decimating zerg and protoss in a firestorm while the stragglers gets blown up when trying to get in to my base, 6+ siege tanks makes wonders...[/QUOTE] There is a common misconception among new players that any attack before 20 minutes is a rush.

Whee I'm plat now

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;40025538]There is a common misconception among new players that any attack before 20 minutes is a rush.[/QUOTE] I'm not new, i've been playing since the WoL launch. Either i win because my opponent is a booster so he quits in the beginning of the match or i get rushed within 10 minutes. Personally i hate the SCII MP because there are very few players that actually use other strategies besides the various rush-variants. If i play it it's because of the portraits.

I won my first ranked match ever today! Third placement match as terran against protoss. Started out by forgetting to get gas and screwing up my wall in, having about 1000 unspent minerals, and using three SCVs to make supply depots to not be blocked. Made a shitton of marines, some marauders, and some siege tanks, and on 125 supply I went out to attack. I met his main army in the middle, he had like 10 stalkers and a colossus, but my main was hit by his like 20 void rays. It became a base-rase, and when I busted up the ramp to his main base, he said: "terran takes no skill noob" And left :(

i just played a great game against a protoss who cannon rushed me got a second base up only to be sacked by void rays, so i made a bunch of nexuses around the map he kills my last one and says: "later bitch", only to see that i was still in the game with a pylon i have too much fun with cannon rushers

So I played WoL at launch a lot, was platinum and amassed about 150 ish Zerg 1v1 wins and loads of fuck around team games and for some reason just stopped. I'm buying hots Friday and I've got the weekend off so I'm going to pretend I'm a pro and just ladder all day having absolutely no idea what changes have happened or what the new units do. Should be fun :)

[QUOTE=igamiwarr;40025538]There is a common misconception among new players that any attack before 20 minutes is a rush.[/QUOTE] same with cheese. I know im only gold and my mechanics are shit and holding me back, but I know that my two reaper harass+bunker isnt cheese when people I play against think is. Its letting me build an expo without pressure.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;40030166]same with cheese. I know im only gold and my mechanics are shit and holding me back, but I know that my two reaper harass+bunker isnt cheese when people I play against think is. Its letting me build an expo without pressure.[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't think I would class anything that actually let you get further ahead in economy as cheese. Reapers are almost as scary as they were at the beginning of WoL beta now I reckon. I haven't played a 1v1 against anyone yet but it seems like you can get them out pretty early again.

[QUOTE=MuTAnT;40030240]Yeah I don't think I would class anything that actually let you get further ahead in economy as cheese. Reapers are almost as scary as they were at the beginning of WoL beta now I reckon. I haven't played a 1v1 against anyone yet but it seems like you can get them out pretty early again.[/QUOTE] yeah, reapers are kinda spooky but they're easy to counter with a good enough read usually players don't have them hit early enough to do any real damage so yeah

[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;40026073]I'm not new, i've been playing since the WoL launch. Either i win because my opponent is a booster so he quits in the beginning of the match or i get rushed within 10 minutes. Personally i hate the SCII MP because there are very few players that actually use other strategies besides the various rush-variants. If i play it it's because of the portraits.[/QUOTE] Getting attacked within 10 minutes isn't a rush. Generally most players will push out when they're expanding. If they made a bunch of Marines and they want to take another base, the safest way to do it is to move out on the map and be a threat. If he scares you into his base or from moving out on your own, he'll be able to get his expansion up as safe as possible and continue doing what he wants to unhindered. If his pressure starts doing critical damage, then they'll change gears to keep attacking you, to try to finish you off. It's completely standard. If I'm pressuring my opponent with a couple of speedlings, and I see I'm doing significant damage, I'll stop focusing on expanding/tech and keep the attack up. It's not a rush, it's just pressure. If you don't defend the pressure, it will kill you.

That being said if you are going to pressure while expanding please don't lose all your shit and leave yourself defenseless. I have lost tournaments that way. :v:

[QUOTE=villa;40030658]Getting attacked within 10 minutes isn't a rush. Generally most players will push out when they're expanding. If they made a bunch of Marines and they want to take another base, the safest way to do it is to move out on the map and be a threat. If he scares you into his base or from moving out on your own, he'll be able to get his expansion up as safe as possible and continue doing what he wants to unhindered. If his pressure starts doing critical damage, then they'll change gears to keep attacking you, to try to finish you off. It's completely standard. If I'm pressuring my opponent with a couple of speedlings, and I see I'm doing significant damage, I'll stop focusing on expanding/tech and keep the attack up. It's not a rush, it's just pressure. If you don't defend the pressure, it will kill you.[/QUOTE] once you get pressured by a player as zerg, what's your answer generally? i try and pressure first but that doesn't always happen with wall ins and what not.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40031051]once you get pressured by a player as zerg, what's your answer generally? i try and pressure first but that doesn't always happen with wall ins and what not.[/QUOTE] I really depends on what kind of pressure. It also depends on what league your general skill is in. If your general mechanics are lacking, pressure, regardless of perfect your defense is, will still kill you. If you'd like, I can take a look at some of your replays to see what you should focus on improving. In the lower leagues, generally making workers and injects are where most Zerg players fall behind. If you can improve those, defense will kind of fall into place.

[QUOTE=GoldenBullet;40026827]So I played WoL at launch a lot, was platinum and amassed about 150 ish Zerg 1v1 wins and loads of fuck around team games and for some reason just stopped. I'm buying hots Friday and I've got the weekend off so I'm going to pretend I'm a pro and just ladder all day having absolutely no idea what changes have happened or what the new units do. Should be fun :)[/QUOTE] If anyone else has the weekend free I've gotten some mates together for this feel free to say and join the fun

lost to a gold terran fucking shitty game balanced very well yes 0-0 tanks 1-1 marines should not win vs 2-2 roachhydra ever

lol tanks shred roach hydra

[QUOTE=Crisis01;40033000]lol tanks shred roach hydra[/QUOTE] No way, man! Roaches got like armor and stuff. And hydra's shoot from far!

Attacking up ramps isnt a good idea aswell.

no 4 tanks should not be able to kill hydras and a few roaches anyway or i guess they are and i just hate stuff which hardcountesr other stuff because that makes games retarded