Starcraft 2 HOTS v1 Megathread - Kerrigan is coming (USE SPOILERS TILL 28.3.2013)
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How to use widow mines?
I can clearly see their potential but whenever i try to use them it ends up awkward.
It just kinda feels it doesn't fit in my build, i'm usually keeping the factories busy with siege tanks and thors to bother with widow mines, and when i try to deviate from the build to make a couple of them, i always screw up...
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;40044607]I'm not saying it needs to be removed entirely. Frankly the widow mine has the space control potential that I miss from BW. I just think it's more effective than its investment warrants so it needs a bit of a nerf somehow.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I agree it needs a nerf, sorry if my post came across as anti-nerf! It really shouldn't decimate zerglings and marines the way it does lol
Got placed into gold yesterday (I was plat for many season in WoL :C ) and my first league game after my placements was a guy trying to ling+spine rush me at about 3:30. It failed miserably. He's in plat. Wat.
[QUOTE=LtBubbles;40045747]How to use widow mines?
I can clearly see their potential but whenever i try to use them it ends up awkward.
It just kinda feels it doesn't fit in my build, i'm usually keeping the factories busy with siege tanks and thors to bother with widow mines, and when i try to deviate from the build to make a couple of them, i always screw up...[/QUOTE]
I think if you're going mech, you will only need 4-6 which will be used to zone out defensive positions. Turtle mech was pretty figured out in WoL so you don't need that many. :)
When pro players get like 16 mines, they're generally going pure bio and producing off a reactor factory. I usually start the reactor on the factory for mines after I swap it out with the Starport for double medivacs. From the pro games I have been [religiously] watching, Terrans generally seem to choose between tanks and mines and rarely go both, and if so it's either a widow mine opener (eg. widow mine drop expand) into tank/hellion production and then mech (usually) OR it's just a few widow mines used to defend. I find having 4 mines (2 on the third, 2 in the main) complements turrets perfectly to scare Zergs away from that dastardly thing they do when they go heavy muta and start pushing loads on +2.
If you were also asking on how to actually micro them, well, you just use them exactly like you would tanks except they go in front of your army too!
Also feel free to disagree with anything I say, the beauty of this game is that it's still being figured out and nothing is set in stone. :D
subscribed to minigun's twitch because i think he's entertaining to watch, got his replay pack full of protoss secrets
if anyone wants it, pm me
What the shit am I supposed to do against protoss as terran? They are smacking me left and right no matter what I do :v:
[QUOTE=:smug:;40046275]I think if you're going mech, you will only need 4-6 which will be used to zone out defensive positions. Turtle mech was pretty figured out in WoL so you don't need that many. :)
When pro players get like 16 mines, they're generally going pure bio and producing off a reactor factory. I usually start the reactor on the factory for mines after I swap it out with the Starport for double medivacs. From the pro games I have been [religiously] watching, Terrans generally seem to choose between tanks and mines and rarely go both, and if so it's either a widow mine opener (eg. widow mine drop expand) into tank/hellion production and then mech (usually) OR it's just a few widow mines used to defend. I find having 4 mines (2 on the third, 2 in the main) complements turrets perfectly to scare Zergs away from that dastardly thing they do when they go heavy muta and start pushing loads on +2.
If you were also asking on how to actually micro them, well, you just use them exactly like you would tanks except they go in front of your army too!
Also feel free to disagree with anything I say, the beauty of this game is that it's still being figured out and nothing is set in stone. :D[/QUOTE]
I see, i like tanks more so i'll probably stick to them.
[QUOTE=LtBubbles;40048543]I see, i like [B]tanks[/B] more so i'll probably stick to them.[/QUOTE]
Did somebody say [B]MECH?[/B]
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[QUOTE=Quantuam VTX;40050336]Did somebody say [B]MECH?[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IVQQFTd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
i approve
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Oh god it's like /vg/ in here now rofl. ^
[QUOTE=CLungcancer;40048373]What the shit am I supposed to do against protoss as terran? They are smacking me left and right no matter what I do :v:[/QUOTE]
Well what do you do at the moment?
[QUOTE=Quantuam VTX;40050336]Did somebody say [B]MECH?[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IVQQFTd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VDw08.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bGymO.gif[/IMG]
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Ugh. Just played a game where the opponent tried to cannon rush me and failed. Then went turtled on one base for 15 minutes harassing me with air. Then got a second base and a secret third and turtled some more with colossi and sentries. But in the end I won and it got me back up into platinum :D
In retrospect, as soon as he went air I should have gone roach hydra and just dropped in his main
[editline]26th March 2013[/editline]
Also no gg lol
[editline]27th March 2013[/editline]
"no skill !@#$"
Yes. Yes. Feed your hate! Let the power of the dark side flow through you.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;40053401]Ugh. Just played a game where the opponent tried to cannon rush me and failed. Then went turtled on one base for 15 minutes harassing me with air. Then got a second base and a secret third and turtled some more with colossi and sentries. But in the end I won and it got me back up into platinum :D
In retrospect, as soon as he went air I should have gone roach hydra and just dropped in his main
[editline]26th March 2013[/editline]
Also no gg lol
[editline]27th March 2013[/editline]
"no skill !@#$"
Yes. Yes. Feed your hate! Let the power of the dark side flow through you.[/QUOTE]
Congrats! :)
edit:
I just beat the single player i enjoyed it :)
I was really drunk when I finished the singleplayer so:
[sp]Kerrigan just floating off into the sky caught me pretty off-guard[/sp]
I finished singleplayer on hard, had only 9 minerals for the last 40 minutes
I'm terrible
[QUOTE=Quantuam VTX;40050336]Did somebody say [B]MECH?[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IVQQFTd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KaZjIre.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Clio;40054894][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KaZjIre.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[B][U] SALUTE TO MECH[/U][/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/iIM41.gif[/IMG]
(I could go all day)
[SP]Semi-spoiler below.[/SP]
[SP]Have anyone else found the WoW easter egg in the space mission?[/SP]
[QUOTE=Alexander.;40057434][B][U] SALUTE TO MECH[/U][/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/iIM41.gif[/IMG]
(I could go all day)[/QUOTE]
Go all day please, have all of my rofl's :D
[QUOTE=Alexander.;40051380][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VDw08.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He could totally be the kid of Dean Martin or something in that gif
I just played a vs. AI ZvZ and the comp made vipers to abduct... my ultralisks...
AI waterudoin
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;40058560]I just played a vs. AI ZvZ and the comp made vipers to abduct... my ultralisks...
AI waterudoin[/QUOTE]
new zvz meta?????
[QUOTE=:smug:;40050494]
Well what do you do at the moment?[/QUOTE]Well the thing is I don't actually know what to do. I just make MMM and siege tanks with widow mine drops from time to time. The thing is that it always goes to late game and the protoss deathball kicks my ass with storms and colossi :(
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;40058560]I just played a vs. AI ZvZ and the comp made vipers to abduct... my ultralisks...
AI waterudoin[/QUOTE]
Some guy once did that. Wanted to pull in a couple of my broodlords into his Hydra army. Somehow managed to snag in the only 4 Ultra's I had in my army.
man vipers must be strong
Got my Battle.net account sorted out earlier so I can use it now, then I bought the StarCraft II and Heart of the Swarm Bundle, yay!
[QUOTE=CLungcancer;40058748]Well the thing is I don't actually know what to do. I just make MMM and siege tanks with widow mine drops from time to time. The thing is that it always goes to late game and the protoss deathball kicks my ass with storms and colossi :([/QUOTE]
At lower leagues you should try to kill them before they get to deathball :(
I love the feeling when you win using something you learned from your last match.
[editline]27th March 2013[/editline]
Also, I am wondering, how far up in the leagues do you have to be before you can at all be considered a good player?
[QUOTE=:smug:;40061747]At lower leagues you should try to kill them before they get to deathball :([/QUOTE]Any tips/builds for accomplishing that? I'm plat btw :v:
[QUOTE=CLungcancer;40061963]Any tips/builds for accomplishing that? I'm plat btw :v:[/QUOTE]
Multi pronged attacks are really good at all levels! Just do a drop in his main and stim bio to his third, that is pretty good :D
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