[QUOTE=99p;40330614]...on par with Black Mesa (for example).[/QUOTE]
I personally hate BM, they cut so much out of it, it didn't seem like HL to me. I mean the first few levels were amazing, but it's like the modders lost enthusiasm as they went, and the levels started to get kinda boring. Plus their texture work, especially on the weapon models was really quite bad.
So I want to stray as far away from 'Black Mesa goodness' as possible.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;40330828]I'm all for critisim from the experts, we obviously want to get the best mod out of this, it's just that we have so much work to get through and the fact that the critisim on the logo alone is taking up half of the thread, kinda shows that things being 'good enough' are fine for the first version. Any knit picks should be left till the final model is done, so we can decide if we should spend more time on it.[/QUOTE]
If you look at the overall picture, I understand where you're coming from, but perhaps the individuals from this mod should be a little more independent. It's not like it's some massive chore to simply ask a small community of Facepunchers whose talent is on par with that of professionals (hell, we do actually have a handful of professional game developers) if something look alright instead of just saying "Meh, good enough". Personally, I just couldn't live with that. It's easy to say that when you're looking at the mod as a whole, but this is the modeller's talent being reflected in these models, in what could potentially be a mod that reaches a wide audience. All I'm saying is, put yourself out there to be criticised by those that are more talented by you, not simply admirers.
[editline]18th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;40330980]I personally hate BM, they cut so much out of it, it didn't seem like HL to me. I mean the first few levels were amazing, but it's like the modders lost enthusiasm as they went, and the levels started to get kinda boring. Plus their texture work, especially on the weapon models was really quite bad.
So I want to stray as far away from 'Black Mesa goodness' as possible.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't a massive fun of it either, but you can't deny that it is amazing of them to essentially recreate an entire game from almost scratch.
[QUOTE=99p;40331013]If you look at the overall picture, I understand where you're coming from, but perhaps the individuals from this mod should be a little more independent. It's not like it's some massive chore to simply ask a small community of Facepunchers whose talent is on par with that of professionals (hell, we do actually have a handful of professional game developers) if something look alright instead of just saying "Meh, good enough". Personally, I just couldn't live with that. It's easy to say that when you're looking at the mod as a whole, but this is the modeller's talent being reflected in these models, in what could potentially be a mod that reaches a wide audience. All I'm saying is, put yourself out there to be criticised by those that are more talented by you, not simply admirers.
[editline]18th April 2013[/editline]
I wasn't a massive fun of it either, but you can't deny that it is amazing of them to essentially recreate an entire game from almost scratch.[/QUOTE]
Point taken. I'll get some more stuff done on it then upload a pic here and on the modeling thread.
On BM:S, yeah, I do respect them for taking the time to recreate HL1, that was awesome of them to do. It's just after 7 whole years you'd think they would've at least finished the whole campaign, or still had some of those parts they cut out. [sub][sub]just a note, please do not turn this into a BM:S 5 page-long discussion, guys.[/sub][/sub]
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;40330980]I personally hate BM[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;40330980]hate[/QUOTE]
My god you're picky. With an attitude like that this mod will never get released.
Just have fun with it and enjoy the project.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;40331497]My god you're picky. With an attitude like that this mod will never get released.
Just have fun with it and enjoy the project.[/QUOTE]
No, with an attitude like mine it means we won't have big chunks of game chapters left out, or half-assed textures (not saying BM:S had half-assed textures, in fact they had pretty great ones, just saying I won't let them be half-assed in our mod).
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;40331521]No, with an attitude like mine it means we won't have big chunks of game chapters left out, or half-assed textures (not saying BM:S had half-assed textures, in fact they had pretty great ones, just saying I won't let them be half-assed in our mod).[/QUOTE]
you told us to not discuss BM and then the next post you make, you're discussing BM
he's just saying not to be a perfectionist
So for textures should they be remade in a high resolution or a completely new texture?
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;40331602]you told us to not discuss BM and then the next post you make, you're discussing BM
he's just saying not to be a perfectionist[/QUOTE]
When did I say not to discuss BM? I said don't make it into a 5-page discussion, not that we couldn't discuss it.
When did I say I wanted everything perfect? I know it won't be completely perfect, I'm just saying we won't screw up the textures or leave out parts of the chapters.
[editline]18th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Garrison;40331665]So for textures should they be remade in a high resolution or a completely new texture?[/QUOTE]
We've been working on the textures for a looooong time now. They're completely new textures, but they're made to look like the old ones, just higher quality version of them.
I made a logo for the hell of it.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/KAlXbpf.png[/img_thumb]
I really liked the sigma with the lambda in place of the two, but using a standard Times New Roman sigma looked ugly, so I made one styled like the lambda.
Looks like this is turning in to a rate dumb contest. IMO if Meatpuppet and Super Muffin thinks that the way this is going is wrong, then they can make their own textures and see if it's better than these. If there aren't any textures to replace the ones Fat-Corgi-Guy made, then so be it. And if there are suggestions that he disagrees with, or if your suggestion is to vague to explain, like I said, make your own texture! If you can't then, oh well.
I've come to believe this is a community project. I personally feel that a lot of things should be optional (like Full Body Awareness, blah blah blah) but it really doesn't matter because I can't code that in. Same thing here.
[QUOTE=cardboardtheory;40332134]Looks like this is turning in to a rate dumb contest. IMO if Meatpuppet and Super Muffin thinks that the way this is going is wrong, then they can make their own textures and see if it's better than these. If there aren't any textures to replace the ones Fat-Corgi-Guy made, then so be it. And if there are suggestions that he disagrees with, or if your suggestion is to vague to explain, like I said, make your own texture! If you can't then, oh well.
I've come to believe this is a community project. I personally feel that a lot of things should be optional (like Full Body Awareness, blah blah blah) but it really doesn't matter because I can't code that in. Same thing here.[/QUOTE]
what the hell are you talking about, i was just clearing up what super muffin was saying
also that's a horrible argument
[editline]19th April 2013[/editline]
butthurter gives my posts the most appropriate ratings
Guys, lets focus on model/material/mapping for the moment.
The logo is like, 2% of the mod... You are not going to look at the logo 95% of the time.
[QUOTE=cardboardtheory;40332134]IMO if Meatpuppet and Super Muffin thinks that the way this is going is wrong, then they can make their own textures and see if it's better than these.
If there aren't any textures to replace the ones Fat-Corgi-Guy made, then so be it. And if there are suggestions that he disagrees with, or if your suggestion is to vague to explain, like I said,
make your own texture! If you can't then, oh well.
[/QUOTE]
What? I didn't say anything about the textures being bad...
Or the mod's textures at all. Just that Corgi is a perfectionist.
(Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.)
All the assets look phenomenal, but if individual things like logos get focused on for innate
periods of time the project eventually grinds to a halt and nobody gets to enjoy the hard
work content creators worked so well on. That, and the project overall ends up being a
waste of time for the collaborators working on it if nothing comes to fruition.
I'm also seeing a lot of feature creep. Last time I worked on a project our coder kept trying
to add features we didn't include in the TDD or GDD. That causes tons of delays and only
adds focus to things that were never intended.
So in short, this mod looks really promising and I'd love to see it released, but there's a
lot of things to focus on. Working on one texture until it's "perfect" then coming back a
few weeks later to find it doesn't jive with the feel of the rest of the textures later adds
so much unnecessary time to the project. It's be easier to have mock-ups of things
first rather than amazing work right off the bat, which might need to get changed later anyway.
Can we [U]not[/U] make this another 5 page argument and can we get to discussing the actual mod.
EDIT: Damn you Pageking.
[QUOTE=MacD11;40332457]Can we [U]not[/U] make this another 5 page argument and can we get to discussing the actual mod.
EDIT: Damn you Pageking.[/QUOTE]
So when the new logo comes out? :v:
Jokes aside, lets get this razor train working, lets keep focused on actual mod stuff.
So any other sketches of the new vorts?
[QUOTE=Cows Rule;40332698]So any other sketches of the new vorts?[/QUOTE]
I sent corgi mine, haven't gotten a response..
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Apjn7t1.png[/img]
[QUOTE=fuckthapolice;40332993]I sent corgi mine, haven't gotten a response..
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Apjn7t1.png[/img][/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68514864/Untitled.png[/IMG]
Bitch please.
~Original SMG Concept Art~
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[QUOTE=fuckthapolice;40332993]I sent corgi mine, haven't gotten a response..
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Apjn7t1.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
M'kay dear I'll stick it up on the fridge with the other...
[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;40333016][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68514864/Untitled.png[/IMG]
Bitch please.
~Original SMG Concept Art~[/QUOTE]
...stuff.
[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;40333016][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68514864/Untitled.png[/IMG]
Bitch please.
~Original SMG Concept Art~[/QUOTE]
that is going in battlewars
[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;40333016][IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68514864/Untitled.png[/IMG]
Bitch please.
~Original SMG Concept Art~[/QUOTE]
lol thatz just a gun u arant even pr0 like me................
[IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/OFFICIAL_CONCET_ARTS.png[/IMG]
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Have fixed water.
[video=youtube;RLgSTaJLbXY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLgSTaJLbXY&feature=youtu.be[/video]
[QUOTE=glitchvid;40333387]Have fixed water.
[video=youtube;RLgSTaJLbXY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLgSTaJLbXY&feature=youtu.be[/video][/QUOTE]
Looks amazing. Can we give it some canal grime? It looks almost transparent.
[B]One more little SMG1 update for today[/B]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xHn0jgJ.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/hhk0D7d.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/fcQ2akk.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/cU7ApxN.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;40333942][B]One more little SMG1 update for today[/B]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xHn0jgJ.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/hhk0D7d.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/fcQ2akk.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/cU7ApxN.png[/t][/QUOTE]
So much details, in so little time!
Amazing work!
The water still looks "slow." Don't ripples all travel along the surface of water at the same speed?
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;40333942][B]One more little SMG1 update for today[/B]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/cU7ApxN.png[/t][/QUOTE]
Not to be the gun asshole that points out dumb stuff, but that magazine isnt for the mp7 is it? Because the smg is a 9mm.
[QUOTE=Shirky;40334343]Not to be the gun asshole that points out dumb stuff, but that magazine isnt for the mp7 is it? Because the smg is a 9mm.[/QUOTE]
Damnit forgot about that.. hmm.. well, ill finish the HEV suit first, I can always get back on the details later.
If you could create new water animated bumpmaps that'd be pretty cool, the existing ones tile so much
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