Patch 6.76 gave him a tremendous buff:
Base Intelligence increased by 6.
Base Damage reduced by 6.
Curse of the Silent
Duration rescaled from 5/6/7/8 to 6.
HP drain rescaled from 20/30/40/50 to 20/35/50/65.
Mana drain rescaled from 10/15/20/25 to 8/16/24/32.
Int steal moved from Last Word back to Glaives of Wisdom.
Now steals Intelligence from outside of the AoE if Silencer gets the kill.
AoE increased from 850 to the standard 900 range.
Last Word replaced with new active skill:
Targets an enemy unit placing a debuff on it. While the debuff is active, casting any spell casuses the target to become silenced and take damage. If the duration of the debuff runs out without the target casting a spell, it will still take damage and be silenced but also be disarmed.
Debuff Duration: 5
Damage: 150/200/250/300
Silence/Disarm Duration: 3/4/5/6
Cast Range: 900
Cooldown: 36/28/20/12
Manacost: 100
Note: You have basic vision over the last word target while the initial buff is on them.
Global Silence
Cooldown decreased from 160 to 140.
Duration increased from 3/4.5/6 to 4/5/6.
But people usually say "X can do everything silencer can do, and better" whenever he's been brought up before though.
Global Silence is probably one of the best skills in the game, you can argue some heroes have this silence that silence but they require good positioning and you can't silence EVERYTHING
You hit silence, the enemy cant do shit, it cancels the channeling of a Black Hole, Fiend's Grip, particularly Sand King's ulti because you shouldn't have vision on a sand king if he's using his ult )unless you are stunned by him or something)
While that's true, nobody can do everything he can better. Sure, 1 or 2 things better. But his spells have perfect synergy, nuke hard, destroy heroes who rely on combos and let him hit real damn hard with autoattacks.
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[QUOTE=Harpie;40415992]Global Silence is probably one of the best skills in the game, you can argue some heroes have this silence that silence but they require good positioning and you can't silence EVERYTHING
You hit silence, the enemy cant do shit, it cancels the channeling of a Black Hole, Fiend's Grip, particularly Sand King's ulti because you shouldn't have vision on a sand king if he's using his ult )unless you are stunned by him or something)[/QUOTE]
It also pierces magic immunity (BKB activated after silence still dispels it though).
I was just curious as to why there was a sudden change in attitude towards Silencer around here, I mean me personally, I enjoy him.
Because he's a dick to lane against and you literally need to pick a certain few heroes to actually stand a chance against him in the laning phase and if you can't lane you're going to have a reeeaallly shitty game
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Not letting orbs dispell curse is too powerful but letting them would just make it entirely useless
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40411807]*very* risky as applying Last Word automatically puts him in Lifebreak range.[/QUOTE]
If Huskar life breaks you it's not like you literally instantly die, if the Silencer just stays on his side of the river he can run to the tower.
[QUOTE=Rarara;40420355]If Huskar life breaks you it's not like you literally instantly die, if the Silencer just stays on his side of the river he can run to the tower.[/QUOTE]
Lifebreak also slows you by 50%. What are you, a squishy 800-ish hp silencer, gonna do against a Huskar that instantly took you down to half health and is now pounding you for over 100 per hit? How are you gonna be fast enough?
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;40420386]Lifebreak also slows you by 50%. What are you, a squishy 800-ish hp silencer, gonna do against a Huskar that instantly took you down to half health and is now pounding you for over 100 per hit? How are you gonna be fast enough?[/QUOTE]
Well, considering the fact that Last Word has almost 2x the range of Life Break, there are big chances you will get away.
On top of that Huskar has to jump over there, which might not seem like much, but its a second or two of Silencer being able to run.
Cast animation isn't slow enough for Huskar to get in range anyway if Silencer just turns around.
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;40415448]Since when did Silencer go from being god awful after his changes to the best guy ever?[/QUOTE] His silence passive was kind of shitty early on and only slightly useful at the late game. But they go and give him a nuke which is completely crippling early game and good late-game.
I've seen OD + Silencer work well.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;40443644]I've seen OD + Silencer work well.[/QUOTE]
But Silencer can be played as a utility support, right?
The only 2 carries in the same lane that I've ever truly enjoyed are Luna and Nature's Prophet in one lane.
My friend and I tried it. Believe it or not, we racked up a lot of kills.
[QUOTE=cheetahben;40445139]But Silencer can be played as a utility support, right?[/QUOTE]
he only supports early game cause of his poke
Juggernaut and Troll Warlord. Bash chance + slow from Whirling Axes (ranged) is amazing with Blade Fury.
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